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You seem to be unaware of the fact that Glass has been around for a few years and nobody cares. I knew a grand total of one person with a pair, and that was amoungst everyone in CE or CS at my university last year.

PDAs / smart phones were around for years before they got mainstreamed by blackberry. People will make this false parallel but nobody wants to wear glasses full time. This is coming from someone who had to wear glasses at one point in his life. Sorry, not nobody, but if glasses (not sunglasses) had a place in fashion they would've caught on. The technology is cool but delivering via glasses is not the right way. I'm not saying contact lenses or some other sci fi thing but they need to utilize and market in a way that they're not expected to be worn full time.
 
Personally, I find it creepy to try to be hip, so I think we're on the same page...

That said, I think the core concept was basically a HUD for your phone so people can go back to looking at the world rather than stare at their hand. I think that's solid. The camera bit just took the concept of never having to take the phone from your pocket a bit too far and, I think, hijacked the entire discussion about how we interact with out tech.

Ironically, I think taking the camera off of Glass and keeping it on the handset would better suit people-- instead of making picture taking even stealthier than it already is on a phone, it would make it more deliberate. When someone takes their handset out of their pocket to take a picture, we become more aware of the action because Glass would otherwise make the handset less necessary.

At the risk of starting a flame war, I can think of any number of hip trends that started out as marginal behaviors. Tattoos, for instance, are a good current example. The only reason Glass wearing is seen as something vaguely sociopathic now is because Google failed to figure out how to make it seem cool. The scary part is it could be made cool if Google wasn't run by geeks who think it already is cool.

Personally as someone who has to wear glasses, I'm mystified by why anyone would choose to wear them if they didn't need them. It would be a much more significant advance for me to be able get rid of glasses than to find a new reason to wear them.
 
Once again Google misses the beat

Glass failed not because of some technological limitation, but because it's a poorly thought out consumer electronics product idea. People don't want this. I can remember when it first came out, I got into endless arguments with tech friends who were *convinced* this would change the world in a gazillion ways. I argued it would flop, and big surprise -- it flopped.

What Glass really needs is a better marketing team that will instead position the product for occupational applications: surgeons, automative factory workers, security guards, rescue operators, etc. I'm not sure why Google has always chosen to market Glass as a consumer product -- it's a bit of a mystery to me. It feels like they never conducted any product market studies to understand whether or not the normal consumer would want/use this, and instead just fueled the project based on Sergey's misguided enthusiasm for building a "cool" new gadget.

And now, putting Fadel in charge of Glass? That, too, won't make a difference -- unless he drastically changes the product positioning. But I'm also sure Fadel doesn't really care -- he's probably just waiting out his retention agreement from the Nest acquisition before he departs. Must bruise the ego a bit though...to go from running one of the most successful CE products ever (iPod), to a mediocre-selling product (Nest), to an abyssmal product failure (Glass). Oh, what am I saying...dude's laughing all the way to the bank.
 
But Apple got Beats! Take that Google !!!

LOL, here's a question you should ponder:
Beats vs. Nest, which company is more profitable? (hint: it's Beats, by a long shot)

I'd say Apple knew exactly what they were doing with that acquisition.
 
Good luck with that. It's going to be tough to overcome the stigma of "gl*******". The thing is, devices like this have cultural problems that will need to be solved first. Maybe Google is hoping that if they can get glass onto a contact lens, then nobody will know you're a gl*******—aside from the fact that your eyes keep rolling back into your head as you wander around like the walking dead. But then what becomes of our society? With everyone recording everything, who knows what would happen to our social behaviors.

I think the other thing to keep in mind is that many people don't want to be THAT connected. Having my iPhone on me can sometimes be annoying enough. It's one of the reasons I'm hesitant about an Apple Watch. Many people don't want that many distractions. You can't ignore messages that are streaming across your eyeballs.
 
I love all the hate for Google glass, mocking people for wearing a new type of device which could be great but the technology just isn't quite ready yet, and saying they all look like tools.

Then you'll go buy an Apple watch...
 
I love all the hate for Google glass, mocking people for wearing a new type of device which could be great but the technology just isn't quite ready yet, and saying they all look like tools.

Then you'll go buy an Apple watch...

Yup. People will soon be walking around talking to their wrists. And suddenly it will be cool to look like a tool.
 
They need to find a way to project a HUD into the eye from the glass/glasses themselves. Make the on off - brain controlled and really step into the future.
 
iPod was the right product at the right time. A runaway success due in part to existing horrible music players, a brilliantly simple implementation, combined with Apples's deal-making on the part of content providers. So the businessman want lighting to strike twice. We witness the arrival at new ideas and products hoping for a Beatles-type of acceptance. Put Fadell in charge. Throw money at it. It's not happening. iPod was the outlier that is a hard act to follow. We're seeing products introduced that are the equivalent of Jaws III versus Jaws.
 
I still fully believe that Google Glass is DOA. They'll be banned from everywhere within months of release, without a doubt. Not to mention they look utterly stupid.

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Glass failed not because of some technological limitation, but because it's a poorly thought out consumer electronics product idea. People don't want this. I can remember when it first came out, I got into endless arguments with tech friends who were *convinced* this would change the world in a gazillion ways. I argued it would flop, and big surprise -- it flopped.

What Glass really needs is a better marketing team that will instead position the product for occupational applications: surgeons, automative factory workers, security guards, rescue operators, etc. I'm not sure why Google has always chosen to market Glass as a consumer product -- it's a bit of a mystery to me. It feels like they never conducted any product market studies to understand whether or not the normal consumer would want/use this, and instead just fueled the project based on Sergey's misguided enthusiasm for building a "cool" new gadget.

And now, putting Fadel in charge of Glass? That, too, won't make a difference -- unless he drastically changes the product positioning. But I'm also sure Fadel doesn't really care -- he's probably just waiting out his retention agreement from the Nest acquisition before he departs. Must bruise the ego a bit though...to go from running one of the most successful CE products ever (iPod), to a mediocre-selling product (Nest), to an abyssmal product failure (Glass). Oh, what am I saying...dude's laughing all the way to the bank.

You pretty much summed up exactly how I feel about Google Glass. From the minute I heard it announced, I thought it would be DOA. It's a terribly thought out idea. People who don't need to wear glasses generally don't want to wear glasses, is problem number one. Problem number two is that these will be banned from a lot of places, not just ones were copyright is in place. They'll be banned from restaurants, parks, all public spaces. People don't want to think you're able to record people without anybody knowing.

Consumers are not interested in this type of product as much as Google would hope they are. This product is a public liability. The design of the thing is terrible too.

Look, I know there were naysayers about the iPhone before that came out, "It'll gain no market share" comes to mind. But Google Glass really is a genuinely terrible product with no future with consumers. It may pick up in specialised markets, but consumers don't want this. I couldn't trust somebody wearing Google Glass, I wouldn't wanna have a conversation with them and I wouldn't want me children near them. Even if the damn thing lit up when it took a photo or video, what then is the point of the product? It doesn't do anything your phone can't. A smart watch is a far more sensible idea than Google Glass. No amount of research and development is going to make this product work.

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They need to integrate this into sunglasses. A $10 pair of sunglasses from a fancy company cost $400. If they added this tech to sunglasses that look good and sold them for $500, people would buy them. The tinted glasses mean that you won't be able to see the screen from the other side, so they can look just like regular glasses to everyone else.

This is a terrible idea. They'd be banned from every public place, instantly. Even more so than generic Google Glass will be.
 
Perhaps it wasn't a good culture fit for Apple. Or Apple's working on their own home automation stuff. Sounds like there are issues with Fadell's management style.

http://www.strictlyvc.com/2014/11/12/unrest-nest/

You mean like how great a fit Beats was for apple. That made even less sense then absorbing Nest.

I think Apple blew it, and people are bending over backwards defending apple for not moving on this. I mean they have their homekit service being rolled out, Nest products makes a lot of sense in the direction that apple is moving in.

btw, your link is dead.

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I still fully believe that Google Glass is DOA. They'll be banned from everywhere within months of release, without a doubt. Not to mention they look utterly stupid.
I agree, that its not a product that the consumers will be quick to embrace regardless of the price point. We've already seen news stories about establishments banning the use of them in their businesses, that will continue as people fear their privacy is being invaded and/or businesses do not want recording devices.
 
I'm still struggling to understand the appeal of the "smart thermostat". I have a programmable thermostat but I don't even use that. I turn the heat up when I get up, I turn it down when I go to bed. Is there really any more to it than that?

Yes.

My Nest paid for it self in the first 6 months in savings in energy costs. I never have to touch the heat, its fully automatic. The schedule handles all basic task for up/down and the GPS based automatic part handles setting away mode anytime I leave the house.

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Google Glass...now, you can change your thermostat hands free while driving.

I saw a guy wearing GG in NYC....looked like a complete tool with it. The idea may work in certain environments (medical, scientific), but I don't want people driving down the road wearing GG...texting is bad enough.

Regarding the Nest, I have yet to talk to anyone who loves it...they tell me it's OK and doesn't always work that well. I'll keep my programmable. Works fine.

We love ours. Paid for itself in first 6 months. All is automatic
 
I'm still shocked that apple dropped the ball and failed to snag Nest when they had the chance.

I think with Fadell heading up google glass, it can only improve things.

Why? Nest is a niche product that only geeks care about - it would have been a bigger waste of money than Motorola for Google.

And Glass is already a failure. No amount of lipstick will make it any better. This is just a way to say "nah, we didn't fail at this.. honest" to appease investors before they quietly kill it off.
 
I'm still shocked that apple dropped the ball and failed to snag Nest when they had the chance.

I think with Fadell heading up google glass, it can only improve things.

I too think Apple missed the boat on Nest. Not so sure about Fadell.

Home control is coming of age and Nest will be a part of that. However I don't think Fadell has done good things to the Nest line since Google got involved. The smoke detector mess was embarrassing. I don't care for the API at all.

GG has potential, but I think the time for it is somewhere in our future, likely not in this decade.
 
Think some would only use Google Glass if it was hidden in something they ware so no one could tell. Just so they feel less like a donkey.

Even when cheaper I wonder how many people really want a device on their head. A watch may be as far as some wish to go.
 
Google Glass wasn't a failure, because it wasn't meant to be a mass consumer device. If it had been, Google would've designed it differently and sold it for under $100 like Chromecast.

Glass is/was a social and UI experiment that Google opened up to outsiders, at first only a few. They and everyone else have learned lots from this experiment, from what looks too geeky, to social reaction, to what kind of UI metaphor works with the least interruption, to even laws being applied.

(It's kind of like the way Google's self-driving cars have already had laws changed to allow them, even though it might be years before they become commonplace. You have to start somewhere.)

So I think it's cool that Google let the public have access to what is basically an R&D project.

Imagine if Apple allowed a few thousand developers and users to buy their Watch and other experimental projects years ahead of time.
 
So I think it's cool that Google let the public have access to what is basically an R&D project.

Imagine if Apple allowed a few thousand developers and users to buy their Watch and other experimental projects years ahead of time.

Yes but that wouldn't allow Apple to sell numerous iterations until they got the product right.
 
Google Glass wasn't a failure, because it wasn't meant to be a mass consumer device. If it had been, Google would've designed it differently and sold it for under $100 like Chromecast.

Wow, that's almost as bad of spin as "The Motorola deal wasn't bad... honestly. We only lost thousands of dollars but it was about patents!"

It was meant to be a consumer device, they even sold it on Google Play. If everything has to be sold under $100, then does that mean that the Nexus 6 and 9 aren't meant to be consumer devices either? Or the Chromebook Pixel?
 
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