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sishaw said:
That's not true--Apple has made speakers at various times, and rather nice ones.

Do you have links to these prior speakers? Funny, I've never heard people rave about Apple's speaker systems before.

I'm assuming these were speakers that came with the Mac. For the record, I'm not down on the hi-fi because of the sound quality - until I hear it for myself, I'll reserve judgement. But I have a hard time with a company that makes statements that their product is "audiophile quality" and that company does not make audiophile components/systems as it's core business base.
 
Proud Liberal said:
Do you have links to these prior speakers? Funny, I've never heard people rave about Apple's speaker systems before.

There is a good post that shows a number of the prior speakers earlier in this thread. Search for it. Yes, I think most of them came with a Mac.
 
zuckthetree said:
Apple is a corporation, not your friend.

What Apple is doing right now is positioning themselves, testing the waters, and looking for more ways into every house, office, living room, etc. That's it. I spend way too much on Apple branded stuff. I only ever owned one Sony Walkman that lasted me 10 years. In the last 18 months I've purchased 3 iPods, 2 PowerBook, and now a MacPook Pro. Obviously, Apple is doing something right.

I think you're totally right about testing the waters. Maybe this could be leading up to a media center for sometime in the future...maybe next january. they could slowly leak out home audio/media products, then introduce it as a full package. Just a thought for all of you thinking of the media center idea.
 
Bose

drewyboy said:
Are you kid'n me? Bose has some of the best sound on the market. Bose is one company that charges the price it's worth. I have a bose at home and it fills the whole living room kitchen and hallways with sound. The accoustics and bass of that little box is incredible.

Audiophiles object to Bose because if you graph the sound, it will show bad dropoffs at certain points, and emphasis at others, compared to the original sound. They are not high-fidelity (as in "true to the original") or reference sound. But they do have a very warm, full sound that many find appealing. Sound in general is a very subjective experience.
 
I agree with zuckthetree

I agree with zuckthetree. If you look at the analysts responses to the new products they all see it as good step towards testing the market.

This one (from MarketWatch.com) sums it up:

"I think Apple is taking prudent steps in the right direction in the new market."
 
zuckthetree said:
Apple is a corporation, not your friend.


Quote of the year.

Fact is this. People will will buy that $99 lether case, dumba$$e$ but still they will buy it. People will buy the speaker too.

Its like this. People think if it costs more its better. Then there are people with so much money they want to spend top dollar on these things because most people won't. Its a sign of "GOT CASH WILL BUY" syndrome and they think it makes them look good.

I put some stuff on ebay one time for $150 starting price. NEVER sold. Had it up 3 weeks at different weeks. Gave up. Put it up as a joke for $300 and it sold in half a day. Its perception folks. If I were apple I would do the same thing, but I sure as hell won't buy them.
 
WishIWasntHere said:
A fun product would also be a remote control for my Airport Express so I can control things from where I'm listening to streamed music instead of running through the house back to my computer to change something. That would be fun. No . . . it would be nice.

Get the Griffin Technology AirClick USB -- it works like a charm with Airport Express with no line of sight needed.
 
sishaw said:
There is a good post that shows a number of the prior speakers earlier in this thread. Search for it. Yes, I think most of them came with a Mac.

Thanks for pointing that out. I'm not a Mac user, so I wasn't aware that Apple made their own computer speakers.

As a stock holder, I hope this is a huge success for Apple, but for $350 I would have preferred to see a more robust feature set, something along the lines of this: http://www.i-deckusa.com
 
I dunno guys, I think there's a whoooooole lotta whining going on here.

I am not in the market for a mini or a Hi-Fi. But I could see many people buying both of these products.

So they didn't live up to the (over)hype. Big deal! Apple's not here to hype people up every day, and you'd think with the 74 home runs they hit with the MacBook, that they're allowed at least one clunker or two.

Get a grip, folks, really.
 
Approaching 2000 NEGATIVE POSTS !!!

Hey, MacRumors does the 2000th negative post get a FREE iPod Nano !?!?!?!?! :eek:
 
yac_moda said:
Approaching 2000 NEGATIVE POSTS !!!

Hey, MacRumors does the 2000th negative post get a FREE iPod Nano !?!?!?!?! :eek:
I heard the 1999th and 2001, as runners-up, each receive an iPod HiFi... ;-)
 
Unusually bad positioning for Apple

Sorry if this has been said before, I haven't read through all the posts here, after spending too much time on the site before the event I have had to catch up with my normal life!

Like many others I was disappointed with the event although I don't blame Apple, they never promised the things we wanted (my wish list was a MacPod and Airport Express with Video). The first thing I did was put the credit card away since there was going to be no buying Apple stuff today, but the more I looked at the iPod Hi-Fi the more I could see a use for it in my bedroom or study, connected to Airport Express as a secondary Hi-Fi in another place where I relax. That seemed to make sense to me (although I won't be doing this soon).

It then occurred to me after reading a few posts that what seems to be upsetting people here was the positioning. After the 5G iPod came out we all applauded Steve's positioning of it as an iPod that happens to play video, afterall that is really what it was. To suggest that a $350 speaker should replace a Hi-Fi, even the best Hi-Fi, since Steve suggested he'd replace his own and we don't expect him to have a cheap setup, is what is irking people.

I think the iPod Hi-Fi has its place in the home, but it's not going to replace most people's Hi-Fi system. Steve should have used some of the same positioning genius he used on the 5G iPod on this product and I think we would have seen a different response. They really shouldn't have had a media event for these products either, it does them no good, and it has probably done a lot of harm.

Just my thoughts.
 
The problem is that days before any Apple event, we get tidbits of information of what might be released and majority of the MR community goes into a frenzy of they own dream Apple device(s). And then its finally releases and nothing to live up to these many expectations and so we get disappointed. And then we all wait for the dissection and performance charts from previous models, and if its better (naturally) we will buy it.

What a vicious cycle? ;) :D
 
advocate said:
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I think that's about the ugliest thing I have ever seen.

I am amazed, its just a big piece of plastic and Apple has done none of things they normally would to make it look a little cooler.

Check this iHome is simular to what I was saying last night would have looked much better.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C7DQ66/ref=pd_kar_gw_2/102-2255896-0276151?_encoding=UTF8

I would have done it this way:

Brushed metal titanium where the white is, just use metal plating to keep the costs down, a handle in the center its not really a boom box with handles on the sides, the iPod recessed about 1" to 2" into the black side in the center, make it easy to get to the scroll wheel, with a glowing apple that changes colors behind it so that it jumps out from the black.

And no speakers at all just a flat black front, like the system below and make it with surround sound, put 2 x 6" accorion woofers (MUCH better base responce, and no delayed sound like Bose <-- sucks !!!) on the ends because the handles are no longer there and resess them for protection, make the ends pivot or hinge out at least 45 degrees to put the sound to the front, and holes on the back side because the holes are there to pump the walls anyway, make it bigger like a real boom box, the Pod is no longer sticking out the top so it still fits into many places, and charge $450 if the cost have gone up a lot because the sound in this system would be AMAZING :eek: ...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BJHH1K/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_4/102-2255896-0276151?_encoding=UTF8


This is a boom box and only $90:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...f=pd_bbs_1/102-2255896-0276151?_encoding=UTF8
 
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Ready for the close-up?

azzurri000 said:
From that angle it looks like an easy bake oven!

Dudes, that is the back, after all! I mean, hating the look of it is fine if that's your opinion, but let's be fair here! At least hate the front!
 
gregarious119 said:
And to follow your logic, the first iPod really wasn't that great. It came into an existing market, gave a decent product, then made it better as time went on.

You obviously never owned an original iPod. I have owned several, and they were by the far the most revolutionary product of their time. From the design, to the interface, to the FireWire, everything was there.

If anything, the iPod has become less revolutionary over time, because of the emergence of clones.
 
Proud Liberal said:
Do you have links to these prior speakers? Funny, I've never heard people rave about Apple's speaker systems before.

I'm assuming these were speakers that came with the Mac. For the record, I'm not down on the hi-fi because of the sound quality - until I hear it for myself, I'll reserve judgement. But I have a hard time with a company that makes statements that their product is "audiophile quality" and that company does not make audiophile components/systems as it's core business base.

This thread is just beating a dead horse. Apple is a business. Businesses use marketing. Sorry if Apple's use of "audiophile" has your panties in a bunch because they're making you feel less special.

When I was a kid I saved up for the Apple Pro speakers, back in the 90's. At the time, they were good speakers. My sister still uses them.
 
theluckyone said:
1) When they started and created the best computer
And (IMHO of course), they've done that twice. The Apple ][ and the original Mac, were both revolutionary and the "best" of their breed.

However they also released the Apple III and the Lisa in that same period of time. Those both proved far from "best" ;)

B
 
jahutch said:
First, regarding the sound, until you've heard the thing in action, don't judge it. Numbers never tell the whole story with sound systems. Oh, and for all of you who say 128k AAC files are hideous? What kind of speakers are you using? If its a 15K audiophile setup, more power to you. If its the latest computer speakers from Klipsch or Logitech, I've got news: Chances are, any difference you hear is all in your head. You know, a placebo effect. AAC isn't lossless, true. But its darn good quality. Personally, yeah, I think it would be nice if iTunes went to 160k. But the fact is, on most of the $100 - $500 speakers normal people use, you AREN'T going to be able to tell much if any difference.

As for the look - its subjective. Personally, I like it - it doesn't stand out. It just seems to blend in nicely wherever you put it, be it on a bookshelf or a home theater. It could be that the sound requirements dictated the form of the thing. If that's the case, I'd be happy - I know a lot of things that sacrifice audio quality so they can fit in a "sleek, sexy" package. Its a bad tradeoff. Personally, I'd reserve judgment until I hear the thing. If it produces clean, room filling sound, it may well be worth the price, especially for people who don't already have some kind of stereo setup. Even then, with its conservative non-"look at me" styling, it looks like it could be at home in a home gym or in the kitchen or even the office, so it may end up being a better product than people expect.

Sorry not true at all. On my Klipsh TXH 2.1 computer speakers I can definately tell the difference. Not on all songs I will grant you, but on many - enough to make it worth using higher bitrates (I wish the iTunes store would go back to 192). An on my home system (which is hardly a $15k system - but still decent - PSB/Denon combo) I can REALLY tell the difference. Particularly in the high end.

That being said, if you cannot hear the difference that is fantastic and you can save a lot of money and harddisk space.
 
Reading tea leaves

Trench said:
http://www.apple.com/ipodhifi/hifiyourhome.html

There is some type of media center located in on the photos featuring the ipod hifi. Do you think its a sign?

There's also a bowl of lemons. I wonder what that means? (Sorry, couldn't resist, still maintaining my 'have to hear it' position).

Actually, I think the "media center" is just part of a TV screen to which, in another photo, the Mini is attached.
 
Just got mine-- pretty nice

I just got (2 hrs ago) my iPod HiFi.

I played from the 5G iPod & it works fine!

Then I played iTunes thru it (connected iPod HiFi to AirPort Express.

To be honest, the iPod HiFi sounds better than:

1) B&O 8000 with McIntosh speakers $8000 in c1985 (FM/Turntable/Cassette/CD)
2) Bose Acousitc Wave 1G $1000 in c1986 (AM/FM/Cassette -- about 1 foot tall)
3) Bose Acoustic Wave 2G $500 in c1998 (AM/FM/CD -- about 4 inches tall)
 
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