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Soo... for the cost of a stamp, and piece of paper and an envelope, I can force said lawyers to pay someone to process my exclusion request, pay someone to include it in court filings of exclusion requests, etc.? Sounds good, I'm in.

We should encourage as many people as possible to do this.

I would love to see their faces when the mail sacks arrive?
:apple: :D
 
Soo... for the cost of a stamp, and piece of paper and an envelope, I can force said lawyers to pay someone to process my exclusion request, pay someone to include it in court filings of exclusion requests, etc.? Sounds good, I'm in.
The power of the internet. The sheer number of iPod users is emmense. I wonder if Apple would "sell us" a one time use of all iTunes users emails who used iPods in the affected time frame without disclosing them to us of course?

The power of the internet. This could have a whole bunch bigger impact than folding!

Rocketman
 
Let them eat cake...

Our current situation where a small elitist population exploits the middle class reminds me of the French Revolution.

I don't see anything changing until the common folk (the ones who work and pay taxes) get mad enough and rise up and throw all the bums out.

One day, maybe all the lawyers will be dragged into the street by the people, tarred and feathered and beaten with sticks. And if they are luck they will escape with their heads still attached.
 
Sample Exclusion Request (what I sent):

Here's what I sent:

Notice Administrator
Apple iPod iTunes Antitrust Litigation
c/o Rust Consulting, Inc.
P.O. Box 8038,
Faribault, MN 55021-9438

Subject: Exclusion Request

Per your extremely irritating rules, I am spending my time and postage to exclude myself from this class action suit. It is a suit for which I never asked to be included and I am irritated that I have to expend any effort at all to exclude myself. (Insult to injury: You were you able to include me via an email but I have to opt out via snail mail?)

I’d suggest a lawsuit to sue for my wasted time and postage, but I am sure you would be all too happy to chase that ambulance too.

I most absolutely want my name disassociated with this absurd action and from the whiners responsible.
 
I suppose I'll sign up so I can get a $5 apple gift card in the mail in two years.

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the thing is even if you collect, you already paid it back in wage taxes. not worth it.
 
So since RIAA folks kinda really wanted to see DRM kicked up and hence their support for iPOD and iTUNES restrictions back in the day, will they share in the responsibility?
 
This suit is crap.
There was never any limitation that you could not play other music on your iPod. An iPod just didn't support other DRM. You could always rip your music and play DRM free music.

You could always play your music on other players by, burning a CD them re-ripping to MP3. The argument in specious because other players didn't support AAC encoded music at the time.

Plain bull.

This states the exact point I was going to make.
 
I agree

I agree with you, but I believe Apple will pay the suit because it would cost less to pay them off then to take them to court.

Two problems with the lawsuit, if their goal is to make Apple change:
  1. iPods play MP3 and AAC audio files (and a few other formats)
  2. Music sold on the iTunes Store no longer has any DRM
  3. Music sold on the iTunes Store can play on any device that supports AAC

There's no monopoly or lock-in in any of those three points. Apple will also probably point to the music industry as the reason why there was DRM in the first place.
 
That is why I don't get how this even got class status. Can't see how it will go anywhere. All Apple has to do is show their license agreement with the labels that stated that they had to put DRM on the music to sell it.

Exactly. Apple didn't want DRM. Jobs is on record as being specifically against it. Apple was first victimized by the music industry (though they ultimately won) and now they're being victimized by this suit. I'm usually in favor of the little guy being able to bring action against a large entity that wrongs him, but in this case this just isn't right. The suit, if it must exist, should be against the music cartel.
 
The iTMS still gives DRMed files sometimes.

SPIN magazine distributes a free playlist of new music monthly for download on iTunes, and every month one or two of those songs arrive not in iTunes Plus format but the old 128 kbps Fairplay version that Apple supposedly doesn't offer anymore.
 
Bad e-mail list?

I own a Nano purchased from an Apple Store and I received no e-mail. I do not want the money, but I am curious how these ambulance chasers obtained their e-mail list and how many errors might be on it. :confused:
 
I am posting just to be part of this monumental thread :cool:

We all know that we won't get anything. The plaintiff attorney will rake in tons of cash. This is why we need litigation reform.
 
Yes you are

I'm getting free money?

You get $2.50... Lawyers get $25,000,000. That's what class action is all about. When you split the settlement with 100 million other people pickings are slim. Lawyers don't do class action to help you, they do it for themselves. You are just the excuse they use to get rich stealing successful corporations money.
 
How exactly are they going to prove that FairPlay DRM caused iPods to be more expensive than "they otherwise would have been"?

Here is a pro-tip for all the people who say that a company "over charges" for something. If you were willing to pay the asking price, then it wasn't over-priced. It may not have been the most efficient, market-clearing price in some theoretical demand-supply model, but that has no bearing on whether or not you were willing and able to pay for it at the time.
 
I really want to use skittles and M&Ms in my Pez dispenser but it just doesn't work. It's all candy right? I think we should have a class action suit against the company that makes those dispensers!
 
What a complete idiot, I hope everyone else turns down any money ripped from Apple. Jeez how do people get away with these stupid petty law-suits..
 
Is HP gonna be sued for not being able to accept ink cartridges bought from Canon?

The lawyer are so greedy and the court should punish this kind of behavior.
 
I assume this has been said but if not...

...Its a dumb lawsuit. It was the content holders rules not Apples. Steve Jobs was against DRM as shown in his open letter to the content holders that he wrote.
 
I don't think anyone uses non-iPod MP3 players, and even if a few people do, they certainly do not use iTunes.

...And even if you use iTunes, you can still remove the DRM with certain programs or by burning to a disc then copying the disc.

I guess it's inconvenient if you use a Zune or something and use iTunes. Then again, it's inconvenient if you use a Zune in the first place.

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Is HP gonna be sued for not being able to accept ink cartridges bought from Canon?

The lawyer are so greedy and the court should punish this kind of behavior.

Yeah I think this lawsuit is a bit over-the-top. Next thing you know, Apple is going to get sued because Mac OS can only run on Apple hardware.

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I agree with you, but I believe Apple will pay the suit because it would cost less to pay them off then to take them to court.

I wonder if a company ever just doesn't use a lawyer in court? What if I suddenly sue a company (say Hyundai because they copy Mercedes) 9000 times in rapid succession and do not use a lawyer so it's free. Do they have to pay a ton of money for lawyers?

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No it wasn't, it was simply the most popular mp3 player. You need to read up on what monopoly means.



No it wasn't. iTunes works with the iPod - if you want to use different DRM, buy the appropriate player.



That's just stupid.

It is kind of close to Microsoft, actually. However, the difference is that Microsoft made their OS reject Macs on purpose. You couldn't send Mac emails to Windows or use Mac Word files in Windows.

This is why my dad finally stopped using his Apple laptop and used Windows when his company was using Windows.
 
Where's the link to state that I do not want to be part of this lawsuit? I would like to publicly voice my disagreement with this lawsuit, and do not wish to be misrepresented as a plaintiff against my will.

jW
 
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