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AmigoMac said:
I want to hear some reasons ... why should this news be negative? Compare your options for a nice player and rate again... :mad: ...
No, I'm not a zealot :eek:

well you know some things just arent good for some people im sure that this thread got the negative ratings because of 1. price or 2. availability/ship time.....
 
Great news

I dont know if apple will be able to satisfy demand tough. It's a worldwide lounch and if they still have a 1 month waiting list in the states I don't know what the waiting lists will be in Europe in 2 weeks or so, once the news really spreads.

Does anyone remember when that new manufacturing line of the HD factory for the minis will be operational? I guess they will need that one to punch out enough of those minis.
 
Here in the US we have taxes too you know, no sense comparing US non-tax prixes to UK prixes+tax.
$250 + Washington Sate sales tax of 7% = $267.5

If you don't like your tax system than perhaps try and shoot for a government overhaul ;)

Tyler
Earendil
 
iPod Mini sales figures

Then there's Paul Thurrott's take:

http://www.internet-nexus.com/2004_07_04_archive.htm#108913619669566574

I don't necessarily agree but there's definitely something mysterious about the extent of the iPod Mini supply problems. My guess is that Apple, famous for driving a hard bargain with its suppliers drove a very hard bargain when ordering these drives and as a result, the company is low on Hitachi's list of priorities.
 
bahi said:
Then there's Paul Thurrott's take:

http://www.internet-nexus.com/2004_07_04_archive.htm#108913619669566574

I don't necessarily agree but there's definitely something mysterious about the extent of the iPod Mini supply problems. My guess is that Apple, famous for driving a hard bargain with its suppliers drove a very hard bargain when ordering these drives and as a result, the company is low on Hitachi's list of priorities.

I just don't think that is accurate. Purhaps though it could be as previously suggested a way to iron out any bugs, or to push the excitement and then release the product in plentiful supply to a higher price point market? Since the price is a a good deal higher in europe and you will still probably see a high sales numbers. I would be interested in seeing how the mini has faired compared to other similiar products. I know much of the Muvo2 rush was due to the harvesting of the HD cards for use in camera's etc.
 
happyadam said:
$283 - $249 = $34 = £18. I've compared the pre-tax prices because you can't blame Apple for VAT rates in the UK. I don't think an extra £18 is any more of a rip off than most products bought here in UK, not just Apple products.

Given that there have been many companies already selling iPod Minis here in the UK for £209 - £249, and Firebox/HMV taking pre-orders at £199, I welcome the news from Apple. So much so, that I've bought one. I'm sure that there won't be much of a problem with demand at £179.

I've done one of my regular comparisons and the iPod mini is actually the best UK valued in terms of FX rate at the moment out of any of the following Apple products: iMac 17&20, PM G5, all displays, all iPods. All the rest are far worse on FX rate markup than the iPod mini (12% price gouging) - compare the price for a 15GB iPod (30%) or 17" iMac (25%). Its odd, the 17" iMac was actually really good value on FX rate when the new models were released last year, now its one of the worst, with all the other products having been updated. Hopefully the September releases will help fix the problem.

With Apple refreshing its entire line in the last few months, they should have addressed the FX issue for the UK. They've done quite badly and its a shame that a 12% markup on the iPod mini before tax is the best they can do.
 
Finally !

Finally, its about time. The price is Euro 260 which is 320 US $. The current price in the US store is 250 US $ but I guess you need to add VAT here.
 
Reasons

AmigoMac said:
I want to hear some reasons ... why should this news be negative? Compare your options for a nice player and rate again... :mad: ...
No, I'm not a zealot :eek:


I'm not one of the negitive voters (nor a possitive either for that matter) but I can think of another reason that was not mentioned:

If your a US resident still waiting for your iPod Mini, this "launch" could hinder the availability in the US if Apple hasn't fixed the supply problem. We still can't get them here and now Apple is increasing the market size.

Like I said, I haven't voted, but there is a possible reason for a negitive vote. I wanted to get one of these for my Fiance for her birthday, if I do I have no way of knowing if I will be able to get it in time (and its a couple of months away at the momemt) I can't purchase it yet so the longer I need to wait till I order one, the harder it will become to get one at this rate.

:(

Over all, in the grand scheme of things (Apple related) it is good news, in that Apple is opening a great product to more people. However, personally, it could mean tough times (Try explaining to your Fiance that you don't have her present because Apple is having supply issues, that her iPod went to Germany becuase Apple needed a bigger market ;) ).
 
bahi said:
Then there's Paul Thurrott's take:

http://www.internet-nexus.com/2004_07_04_archive.htm#108913619669566574

I don't necessarily agree but there's definitely something mysterious about the extent of the iPod Mini supply problems. My guess is that Apple, famous for driving a hard bargain with its suppliers drove a very hard bargain when ordering these drives and as a result, the company is low on Hitachi's list of priorities.

As true as it is that you can't get an iPod mini if your life depended on it, PT (Paul Thurrott) couldn't write an insightful and evenhanded analysis, if his life depended on it. This is just pure speculation of the simplest kind. I bet Apple gets a contingent of Hitachis 1" drives, and not each and every one that goes off the production line. I seriously doubt Apple is holding back the iPod mini to boost iPod sales. This is nuts, as many people who would buy a mini aren't in the market for a bigger one.

PT is off the rails again, nothing new there.
 
Blue or Silver

wooo hooo I've been waiting for this for a long time, but now I cant decide Silver or Blue??? Help you guys, anyone got these colours already?

This will go with my new iMac in September (fingers crossed) If thats going to be silver maybe I should go with the silver iPod mini - and that i will be getting hooked up to my mini cooper too :)

Scot
 
good news. this should help out the already successful iTunes music store in the UK, France, and Germany.

I hope this will make iPod mini's more available in the US. I have been calling my near by apple store asking if they have any shipments come in. I can't order one online cuz i got an apple gift card, and can't use it on apple's online store.
 
1) This is good news. Even though I still think it's a little expensive at $349CDN (I'd be content with that price if it included the $40 armband) but it suits me just fine. I use a Powerbook exclusively so always have all my music with me. I need a small player mostly for the gym and road trips, which 4 gigs will take care of. I may, however, still hold out for a slightly larger model which I am sure is coming soon.

2) Did anyone else notice that the 15 gig iPod has gone down in price? At least I think it has. There's a "new" label beside it and I thought it was more than $399CDN. I suspect the 20/40/60 gig line is imminent.

All in all, good news.
 
at prices like that for only 4gb... im sorry but colour doesn't cover it up!! + the fact they have been fabricating some tale about lack of drives so they can sell to their primary market (the us)

apple are starting to slip here i think, i cant see how anyone in their right mind (in the uk) would buy one of these when you can get a normal ipod for not much more and more space?!?

Creative .. here's your chance.

P.S. I love my ipod(s) and i bought my brother a 20gb ipod last week for his birthday, so im not mac bashing.

I was thinking of getting one of these for my little sister for her birthday... hmm might have to have a look at the muvo's now.
 
Minis are great...

...but the real question is when are we getting the 60Gb iPod?? I need to upgrade my 20Gb 2G and have $$$ burning a hole in my pocket!!!

:) :) :)
 
garybUK said:
at prices like that for only 4gb... im sorry but colour doesn't cover it up!! + the fact they have been fabricating some tale about lack of drives so they can sell to their primary market (the us)

apple are starting to slip here i think, i cant see how anyone in their right mind (in the uk) would buy one of these when you can get a normal ipod for not much more and more space?!?

Uh, not much more? A 15 GB iPOD costs £ 248.99, so the difference between this and the mini is £69.99. In the Netherlands the difference is 80 Euro between the mini and the regular white iPod. Now I don't think that these prices can ever be considered "for not much more". And even if it's not much, because, hey, you are loaded with money, I think colour and form factor do, in fact, matter.

I can only say that the price in Pounds is high, but the price in Euro is just about right, considering the "alternatives" which are usually priced way higher than the mini.
 
It's about time too

Fantastic news. As soon as I see one in the flesh I am getting one.

It has been very frustrating waiting while knowing that any people living in the US could get one when they wanted to. Japan is a very big market for Apple (maybe 30%) and we shouldnt have been placed behind. Even though I gripe, I understand Apple's reasons.

But now that waits nearly over and I will stop gripping.

This can only be good news.

Oh, first post :D
 
garybUK said:
I was thinking of getting one of these for my little sister for her birthday... hmm might have to have a look at the muvo's now.

I'm sure she'll be pleased :D (There's more to the iPod's value than GB, BTW. Usability comes to mind--the mini being even easier to use than the full iPod, in my experience.)
 
I expect, as usual, that Apple special offers aren't that special if you don't live in the US.

Why are apple 'offers' only available in the states?

carletonmusic said:
It's a shame this doesn't apply to the iPod mini:

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garybUK said:
at prices like that for only 4gb... im sorry but colour doesn't cover it up!! + the fact they have been fabricating some tale about lack of drives so they can sell to their primary market (the us)

I think £179 for a *small* Hard Drive based player is a good competitive price esp as its 4GB, for £150/£189 you can only get 1.5GB :)
 
Stella said:
I expect, as usual, that Apple special offers aren't that special if you don't live in the US.

Why are apple 'offers' only available in the states?

Maybe because Apple is America America America orientated, they don't realise that America isn't the only world on this planet.
 
yossele said:
What a rip-off
The UK price is in dollars:
$283 + Tax = $335
No way I will buy one.

thats not bad actually, since it includes sales tax.

in mexico it costs 415 usd including sales tax.
 
svenas1 said:
As true as it is that you can't get an iPod mini if your life depended on it, PT (Paul Thurrott) couldn't write an insightful and evenhanded analysis, if his life depended on it. This is just pure speculation of the simplest kind. I bet Apple gets a contingent of Hitachis 1" drives, and not each and every one that goes off the production line. I seriously doubt Apple is holding back the iPod mini to boost iPod sales. This is nuts, as many people who would buy a mini aren't in the market for a bigger one.

PT is off the rails again, nothing new there.

I'm sure this Thurrott guy tried buying a mini (or maybe he tried to finagle a free one from Apple) and was denied so he's pissed off and is now going on groundless rants.

I've been calling around looking for a silver mini and the replies I'm getting is that they ARE getting shipments but they don't know when the shipments are coming. Some stores I've called have certain colors in stock, just not the color I'm looking for. Bloody hell.
 
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