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Yvan256 said:
Hello all. Long time reader, first time poster (and what a long post, too).
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Thanks for reading.

Well, thanks for writing. That was interesting, albeit lenghty read.
...You just should've posted it to some other thread since it's really mostly about a headless eMac and your computing history.

I think your post deserves more discussion, and the points you make about Apple having a cheap computer are all good and relevant, you still being on the PC side and all.

Anyway, welcome to the good side.
 
After a long wait this is welcome news! Here's hoping the colors are all the "correct" shades. To some this matters a great deal ;)
 
i like the idea that apple released the ipodmini to the whole world but then i ordered more than a month ago and i still havent received mine.i presume they will increase supply but it will be nice if they start shipping their customers to those who have ordered them already.
 
Literature has always been up to the crazy and deranged interpretations of others who happen to be in the good graces of some senile academe. Linguistics, however, is an exact science. Get off your high-horse. We had a revolution in America a few hundred years ago, to get rid of pompous asses like yourself, jackass. Furthermore, if you don't like it go tell yo mamma!

I didn`t know you had a revolution to get rid of writers (my history book strangely enough does explain the whole thing a bit differently- but what do I tell you, you know how writers are...).
But at last this brings a bit of light into some things I didn`t understand about your culture. :p
 
now i am a happy chappy , just orderd my powerbook 12" and now i am skint i will have to wait until next payday to buy the mini !!

well done apple for just getting it to the rest of the world before we almost forgot about it! still .... very pleased
 
Borg3of5 said:
Not only that, but prices in Euros for the SAME item differ from country to country even though the same currency is used. Although not related to this anyone care to enlighten us why?

Apart from different VAT rates in different countries (the minimum within the EU is 15%, Germany has 16%, France I think 21.6%), a number of countries have so-called intellectual property fees on stuff like copy machines, blank CDs , MP3 players etc., that fee is 9.57 Euro in France, in Germany it is 2.63 Euro.
 
mhouse said:
No, there is no America-centered bias at Apple or any any company. Apple is more concerned with the American market for the same reason most companies are: massive sales potential. Apple can use one campaign, in one language, to market to 400 million people. Many of whom can afford their products.

Errr...where do the 400 million people figure come from? According to Wikipedia the U.S. population is 293 million, and Canada is 32 million, making a total of 325 million. Since the U.K. and Australia are often regarded as subservient dependencies of the U.S., perhaps you were adding in the U.K. population (60 million) and the Australian population (20 million), which would get you to 400 million.

If that's the case, then why did we have to wait until now for iPod minis, still no iTunes music store!?!? ROAAARRRR!!!! ;)
 
FINALLY!

Hello everyone,

Finally, the wait is over! As a Canadian, I have been waiting too long for this to come here. It's been 3-4 (not sure) months of jealousy to our neighbours down south! I can't wait to get my hands on one. Now I am stuck with the decision our American iPod Mini users had: WHAT COLOUR???

About the language debate: come on, we're more civilized than that.
 
Mac Boy-Canada said:
About the language debate: come on, we're more civilized than that.

Hmm...maybe. Just don't get people started on C++ versus Java.

Is there free trade across the US/Canadian border? By this I mean, could you have gone to the US, bought an iPod mini, and then brought it back home to Canada without paying import duties or taxes? Or do the usual types of excises apply?
 
Borg3of5 said:
This promotion is probably the signal of an imminent, and long-awaited 4G iPod.
Huh. This promo runs until the end of September. Does this mean we will not get any 4G ipods before the end of summer? Argh...
 
oingoboingo said:
Errr...where do the 400 million people figure come from? According to Wikipedia the U.S. population is 293 million, and Canada is 32 million, making a total of 325 million. Since the U.K. and Australia are often regarded as subservient dependencies of the U.S., perhaps you were adding in the U.K. population (60 million) and the Australian population (20 million), which would get you to 400 million.

If that's the case, then why did we have to wait until now for iPod minis, still no iTunes music store!?!? ROAAARRRR!!!! ;)

The wikipedia number is probably based on US census reports which are (as they are in any country this size) not particulaly accurate. Also, there are some 10-15 million undocumented (and uncounted) workers in America.

But regardless of the exact number, the point is the same. Apple worries about America first because this is the place they can sell the most stuff. Not because of any pro-America bias.

And I like iPod minis. They are cool;)
There, all on-topic and such!
 
Stoffel said:
Huh. This promo runs until the end of September. Does this mean we will not get any 4G ipods before the end of summer? Argh...

I'm guessing that's when they'll do a release. I don't see them introducing a new iPod until the 60GB HD becomes available. I'm actually almost certain they wouldn't.
–Chase
 
neon said:
oh boy.

i adore my 20gb ipod... but i knew i'd be tempted when this day came, and tempted i am.


the price is not too bad actually considering most speculation put it at £199.

not wanting to be pessimistic really but i wonder if the delivery dates will change... for the worse... i don't want to get an email offering me a 15gb for the same price...
at least i can wait now i have a 20gb though :)

Same boat I have a 20Gb but couldn't resist a mini aswell.

And the Bad news, my ship date has already gone back to the 26th from the 24th and I literally bought the second the apple store came up! This doesn't look good, I move house on the 31st!
 
For those considering purchasing a mini:

I confess, I sat in the keynote in January and I didn't get it. Slightly smaller, 4 gigs for USD$250? My buddy and I bashed Apple for being so stupid.

I own a mini now, and let me admit to you that I was categorically wrong. I also own a 40 gig iPod, and it is gathering dust.

Let me explain why:

1. The size. Looking at the specs on a piece of paper does not capture how much smaller it is in real life. It is so small you forget the mini is in your pocket, which is not true of the iPod.

2. It is light as a feather. Again, you forget you have it with you.

3. 1,000 songs is the magic number. I owned MP3 players before buying an iPod and I hated each one since I got bored of the music after a few hours. I loved the iPod's capacity, but it was also a hassle managing that many songs. The mini's capacity is the perfect balance. Enough songs so you don't get bored, but easy to manage.

4. It's beautiful. The silly post earlier about it just "coming in 5 colors" is obviously someone who has never seen a mini in person. The color hues and way it blends with the metal looks like one of those $8,000 pain jobs you can get as an option on a high end automobile.

5. The new dial is amazing. It is the interface that should be on the bigger sibling iPod.

I saw the mini at MacWorld and at the Apple store here in San Francisco, but I didn't really appreciate it until I owned one.

It is better in ways the specs don't truly capture. If you are thinking about buying one, I strongly recommend it.
 
sorry if any other Aussie has already highlighted this...

In conversion, the iPod 15Gb is 150% of the US price
Whereas the iPod mini is 160% of the US price

That sounds like a bit of profiteering on Apple Oz's behalf.

(And the Aussie dollar is currently 142% of the US dollar)

Am not impressed. I was already reaching for my credit card but, in protest, I will wait til they come down. :mad:
 
FINALLY!!!

I just got done ordering mine :)
I can't wait to get it.. I know its a rip off in price compared to what you lucky USers get to pay but I'm to excited to care! :p
 
All I can say is that I hope Apple has got enough iPodmins being produced to meet worldwide demand. We are not just talking Mac lovers here, they are hitting a huge market of women who own PCs who go to the gym, who exercise, walk the dog, girls etc who just love sexy devices that play music and do it all with ease. I hope they have something like 2 or 3 million iPod minis ready to hit the shelves becasue they are going to need that many if you spread that out for say 1,000,000 for the UK and Europe (minimum) for initial stock to be on the shelves and the rest to be spread around the rest of the world.

Just my 2 cents
 
Does anyone else think that there won't be a 4G iPod for a quite a while? I think that the hard disc sizes will go up to 20 40 and 60 soon, but wouldn't it be crazy to change the design much - just at the point most of the general public knows what it looks like?

My prediction: next scheduled update, 20GB 40GB and 60GB capacities, in the current form factor.

When the 4G iPod does arrive, possibly in time for christmas or otherwise 1st half of 2005, the click wheel will be introduced, and the size will reduce slightly, (so the screen will sit just above the wheel - without the gap where the buttons are), and a range of shades from white to silver to charcoal will be added - making them look more sophisticated and expensive than the more colourful mini.

Or I could be totally wrong!!



And to try to keep this on topic - I'm glad the price is lower than we expected, £165 in the edu store - I think I'll be seeing a lot more people around University with iPods when the next Academic year starts!
 
ChrisH3677 said:
sorry if any other Aussie has already highlighted this...
the iPod mini is 160% of the US price

That sounds like a bit of profiteering on Apple Oz's behalf.

(And the Aussie dollar is currently 142% of the US dollar)

Whoa, so many errors! If the AUD was 142% of the USD, we'd all be friggin' rich! It's actually 72% currently, or more correctly stated, the Australian Dollar is worth 72 US cents, that is, $0.72 USD.

You're comparing $249 USD with $399 AUD, but that is incorrect because the Australian price includes GST, whereas most US states add their tax to the price at the checkout.

In any case, the normal way you do the conversion to find what the price "should be" is to divide the US price by the current exchange rate then multiply by GST. So:

249 / 0.72 * 1.1 = 380.40

That means that as of today's exchange rate, Apple is "overcharging" you only $18.60...

(And that doesn't take into account that most Americans pay around $270 when their state's tax rate (8.5% in California) is taken into account, or that the exchange rate could go back down to 0.68 where it was a few weeks ago, in which case iPods would actually be cheaper here than the US.)

ChrisH3677 said:
Am not impressed. I was already reaching for my credit card but, in protest, I will wait til they come down. :mad:

Maybe to save that $18.60, you should book a flight to LA...

Seriously, you're getting outraged over a very mild difference. You couldn't even get it posted for that. And if the exchange rate fluctuates in the meantime, you would end up paying more. Really.
 
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