iPod Nano Class Action Suit

[EricNau]

Give me a break. We need legal reform in this country in a bad way. This sort of thing ends up costing Apple in legal fees which ultimately ends up being paid by customers like ME!

Not to mention taxes!
Michael Newdow comes to mind trying to get rid of the Pledge of Allegiance. The supreme Court already sent him away, now he's at it again. He needs to be stopped, the pledge is not unconstitutional, period!
Ha ha - Now the secret service is investigating him because he was crossing out "In God we Trust" on money, on TV! Idiot, it's illegal to deface money! (especially on TV)

 

[AP_piano295]

I know, it is, these people are the lowest form of life.

OMG they said something against apple they dont deserve to live in the scum on the botom of my shoes.

 

[javiercr]

I love Apple but I hope they lose. They need to learn how to make a solid product that DOESN'T SCRATCH. First rule of product making: Don't build it like butter.

exactly, and ALL ipods scratch too much, yes it is made of the same material as other iPods and that material scratches too much compared with any material used in mobile phones for example.

they have to make them pretty but they can't be made like butter

 

[joenathan]

You Yanks are bloody pathetic. Compensation culture is getting rife in Europe and it's because of your "make a dollar out of nothing" perogative. It makes me sick. You can't live for free - put something in to get something out.

Apple don't deserve being sued as much as OJ simpson didn't deserve to get off innocent.

 

[Xacttech]

duh

Is anyone here against a screen that doesn't scratch? Is there anyone here that would prefer, not to have a case on their iPods?

this is a no brainer for me...

Why should you have to put a skin on your ipod? They're UGLY, and cover up a beautiful device!

What's the point of making a great looking product if you can't show it off?

I've had a 3G since it came out, and I've never bought a case for it, I just let it be, why? Cause I don't want to cover it up, and don't think I should have to. Does it have scratches, You bet! But I'd rather rock a scratched ipod then a skin (although I do keep it in the case that came with the ipod when it's stuffed in a bag etc. I think the "stock" case caused most of the scratches)

Anyway, my point is if this forces apple to make a housing that is more scratch resistent I'm all for it. They in my opinion have denied a serious issue since Generation 1.

 

[leftbanke7]

Not to mention taxes!
Michael Newdow comes to mind trying to get rid of the Pledge of Allegiance. The supreme Court already sent him away, now he's at it again. He needs to be stopped, the pledge is not unconstitutional, period!
Ha ha - Now the secret service is investigating him because he was crossing out "In God we Trust" on money, on TV! Idiot, it's illegal to deface money! (especially on TV)

I beg to differ about the pledge not being unconstitutional but that is not the point of this thread.

As it was pointed out already, the key phrase in all of this is "portion of all nano sales". Take this phrase out and it sounds like a legit lawsuit. Add it in there and it looks like a colossal money grab.

 

[bousozoku]

You Yanks are bloody pathetic. Compensation culture is getting rife in Europe and it's because of your "make a dollar out of nothing" perogative. It makes me sick. You can't live for free - put something in to get something out.

Apple don't deserve being sued as much as OJ simpson didn't deserve to get off innocent.

Who are you calling you?

Relax a moment. We don't like the sleazebag lawyers who file these claims any more than you do. Most Americans don't agree with it. It's easy to generalise, especially when you haven't lived here but it's a minority of people going into these kinds of things and truly, the lawyers are the only people who really make good money.

 

[EricNau]

You Yanks are bloody pathetic. Compensation culture is getting rife in Europe and it's because of your "make a dollar out of nothing" perogative. It makes me sick. You can't live for free - put something in to get something out.

Apple don't deserve being sued as much as OJ simpson didn't deserve to get off innocent.

Like you analogy there.

 

[OS X Factor]

Give me a break!

Are you serious? A bunch of people who are too cheap to buy cases for the nano, and most likely stuck the damn thing in their jeans pocket - are concerned that their iPod scratched?

Boo-freakin-hoo.

This is the biggest pile of legal bedwetting I've ever seen.

 

[AP_piano295]

Is anyone here against a screen that doesn't scratch? Is there anyone here that would prefer, not to have a case on their iPods?

this is a no brainer for me...

Why should you have to put a skin on your ipod? They're UGLY, and cover up a beautiful device!

What's the point of making a great looking product if you can't show it off?

I've had a 3G since it came out, and I've never bought a case for it, I just let it be, why? Cause I don't want to cover it up, and don't think I should have to. Does it have scratches, You bet! But I'd rather rock a scratched ipod then a skin (although I do keep it in the case that came with the ipod when it's stuffed in a bag etc. I think the "stock" case caused most of the scratches)

Anyway, my point is if this forces apple to make a housing that is more scratch resistent I'm all for it. They in my opinion have denied a serious issue since Generation 1.

Im up with that why buy this sweet looking toy if nobodys going to see anything except a crapy rubber case. Plus the cases are like four feet thick

 

[fklehman]

Buy better paper towels. If anyone bothered to read a manual once in a while, they'd know to use a "soft, lint-free cloth" on just about everything (tv screens, cd's, dvd's, computer monitors, etc)

Quite true. You shouldn't use anything to clean you iPod's LCD that you woudn't use on your laptop's LCD. Both are equally sensitive. But then I'm sure most people understand that. I'm ot trying to start a fight, honestly, but I don't remember this issue seeming big enough at any point to warrant a class-action suit. I know some of the sites have reported sporadically on damaged nano LCDs, but the coverage has been sporadic, not constant. And if there was a widespread issue you can bet the rumor/mac sites would be harping on it. In fact, I seem to recall Apple taking the initiative and replacing a number of damaged screens that were part of a bad batch. Maybe someone can clear up this misunderstanding if I have the wrong impression, but this lawsuit seems overblown to me, given my current understanding of the situation.

 

[Jesus]

OMG they said something against apple they dont deserve to live in the scum on the botom of my shoes.

It's just that these people are intent on getting some free money. I mean, this is there argument; A polished plasric surface scratcges when I put in in my pocket with my keys and some change and it gets scratched, now give me some of your profit and give a new iPod nano to everyone in my family.

I know iPod scratch a bit to easily, but seriously, this is crazy.

Jesus

 

[nagromme]

My iPod was caseless in my pocket for a couple weeks before my PodSleevz arrived. A year later and it's still nearly scratchless. And made of the same material, according to Apple, as the nano.

I see three possibilities here:

1. Apple knowingly used a DIFFERENT material from past iPods, and then LIED and said it was the SAME. In which case, they should be sued (for a refund at least, and to punish the behavior). This strikes me as unlikely.

or

2. It IS the same material. Apple can EASILY prove that. End of case. Yes, plastic can scratch. Nice try. This means that some USERS are lying about how they treated their nanos. "I scratched it with a gentle touch of my clean finger, and now you can't even read the screen." There may be some of this at work.

or

3. Apple has been TOLD the material is the same, but the manufacturing contractor is doing the lying--or making a genuine mistake even THEY haven't caught yet--and is actually using a different material. Then Apple might be sued, but could in turn seek recompense from company that carried out the fraud or made the mistake. (Or, upon discovering this, the parties involved could make KNOWN what has been discovered, and make things right out of court.)

#3 is the option that doesn't involve anyone being dishonest, so I tend to hope for that.

In addition, if the material IS different, knowingly or not, then it might affect only SOME Nanos. A "bad batch." If that's the case, then I expect the issue to be discovered and a statement to be made by Apple.

 

[MikeH]

Christ, if the nano is that much of a piece of ****, return it and demand your money back. But this smacks of the "litigation nation" attitude - see a company doing well and sue it...

This isn't the man in the street getting justice, it's a bunch of ambulance chasers and gold diggers out for all thay can get. Screw 'em.

 

[phd]

I love Apple but I hope they lose. They need to learn how to make a solid product that DOESN'T SCRATCH. First rule of product making: Don't build it like butter.

Get a grip. Don't build it like butter?... put it in a case.

Damn I just scuffed my new Nikes... has anybody else scuffed their nikes?

How about we make a class action suit against Nike

Sheesh people these days suck!

 

[quigleybc]

This is ridiculous. I've had my nano for 3 weeks and it has been used every day and it is still flawless. It all comes down to taking care of your purchase. I wouldn't be surprised if this hysteria was started by Creative or other companies who make mp3 players. If you can't beat them, turn a small problem into an uproar.

Fishes,
narco.

I agree, I bought my nano (white) and then bought a case, of course the cases were not shipping when the nano came out, so I just carried it around in a sunglasses case..no biggie. i think if Steve wouldn't have shown that it is ok to put in the little pocket of your jeans, some of this could have been avoided...

So now I have it in the Speck iSkin, and it's great...no big deal,

 

[Lacero]

And yet, you guys scream "Buy a CASE, you frikkin' moron!" I mean.. come on.. its a PORTABLE music player, for crying out loud. It should be able to withstand normal usage without deterrierating.

Mymemory would say "how to turn nano into mini".

 

[AP_piano295]

It's just that these people are intent on getting some free money. I mean, this is there argument; A polished plasric surface scratcges when I put in in my pocket with my keys and some change and it gets scratched, now give me some of your profit and give a new iPod nano to everyone in my family.

I know iPod scratch a bit to easily, but seriously, this is crazy.

Jesus

The profit thing is 100% B... S... but a refund would not be crazy apple should make a product with some scratch resistance.

 

[Loke]

Im gonna do something quite bold, and NOT comment on the thread topic. HOWEVER: Are you guys, who claim people need to buy a case for their iPod to prevent the screen from scratching badly, for real?

I dont know what its like in America, but here in Norway customers have certain rights and privileges. And one of those rights, is that a device like a portable music player is expected to be carried around in jackets, jeans, purses etc. This is the normal usage! And since this is the normal and expected usage, the device must also be able to handle such conditions without being damaged.

Nowhere did Apple say: "If this device is to be carried around in your pocket, you MUST use a case in order to protect it from being scratced. Warranty void if caseless."

And yet, you guys scream "Buy a CASE, you frikkin' moron!" I mean.. come on.. its a PORTABLE music player, for crying out loud. It should be able to withstand normal and expected usage without deteriorating. It really is that simple.

If the iPod do or do not scratch - I dont know. But you guys who keep yelling "CASE!" needs to wake up and smell the coffee...

 

[plastique45]

Thats funny, my nano is fine. And what? They want a share of the profits? Hell i bet the RIAA is backing these suckers.

This won't go anywhere. Why can't people just go out and find a job and earn a living. These people should be shot for frivolous lawsuits (and no, not put in jail, that is a waste of money, they should just be shot).

Lawsuit is the US' national sport.

 

[AP_piano295]

My iPod was caseless in my pocket for a couple weeks before my PodSleevz arrived. A year later and it's still nearly scratchless. And made of the same material, according to Apple, as the nano.

I see three possibilities here:

1. Apple knowingly used a DIFFERENT material from past iPods, and then LIED and said it was the SAME. In which case, they should be sued (for a refund at least, and to punish the behavior). This strikes me as unlikely.

or

2. It IS the same material. Apple can EASILY prove that. End of case. Yes, plastic can scratch. Nice try. This means that some USERS are lying about how they treated their nanos. "I scratched it with a gentle touch of my clean finger, and now you can't even read the screen." There may be some of this at work.

or

3. Apple has been TOLD the material is the same, but the manufacturing contractor is doing the lying--or making a genuine mistake even THEY haven't caught yet--and is actually using a different material. Then Apple might be sued, but could in turn seek recompense from company that carried out the fraud or made the mistake. (Or, upon discovering this, the parties involved could make KNOWN what has been discovered, and make things right out of court.)

#3 is the option that doesn't involve anyone being dishonest, so I tend to hope for that.

In addition, if the material IS different, knowingly or not, then it might affect only SOME Nanos. A "bad batch." If that's the case, then I expect the issue to be discovered and a statement to be made by Apple.

That seems very unlikely to me I think its more likely that its the same material with a clear resin covering that shows scratches (and is scratched) more redily than the whatever substance lies inside. I do knot that the 5g ipods have a clear resin covering and as they seem to be very similar to the nano I would think it likely that Nanos also have this covering.

Lawsuit is the US' national sport.

that is very true but they do get things done

 

[Kernow]

I read somewhere here that the Nano and 5G use polycarbonate, which is the same material used for the 4G (and maybe 3G.) The previous ones used something else (maybe lucite?)

You could be right madmaxmedia, I've had my 2G for 3-4 years now and chucked it in pockets/bags with coins, keys etc and scratching on the surface is minimal. In fact, the rear metal plating is more scratched than the front.

I dropped my keys the other day. They fell onto the trunk/boot of my car, and scratched my beautiful black paint a little bit.

I reversed out of a parking space and hit a post - it scratched the front bumper. If we join up, I think we've got a dead cert class action here. A share of worldwide car sales would do me nicely.

 

[hvfsl]

Im gonna do something quite bold, and NOT comment on the thread topic. HOWEVER: Are you guys, who claim people need to buy a case for their iPod to prevent the screen from scratching badly, for real?

I dont know what its like in America, but here in Norway customers have certain rights and privileges. And one of those rights, is that a device like a portable music player is expected to be carried around in jackets, jeans, purses etc. This is the normal usage! And since this is the normal and expected usage, the device must also be able to handle such conditions without being damaged.

Nowhere did Apple say: "If this device is to be carried around in your pocket, you MUST use a case in order to protect it from being scratced. Warranty void if caseless."

And yet, you guys scream "Buy a CASE, you frikkin' moron!" I mean.. come on.. its a PORTABLE music player, for crying out loud. It should be able to withstand normal and expected usage without deteriorating. It really is that simple.

If the iPod do or do not scratch - I dont know. But you guys who keep yelling "CASE!" needs to wake up and smell the coffee...

Well I have had enough mobile phones that scratch easily to know I needed a case for the iPod. The iPods may scratch more easily than most devices or it might just be that the iPods look so good that no one can bare any scratches on them. But whatever the case, very few devices you can put if you pocket are scratch proof.

 

[AP_piano295]

Well I have had enough mobile phones that scratch easily to know I needed a case for the iPod. The iPods may scratch more easily than most devices or it might just be that the iPods look so good that no one can bare any scratches on them. But whatever the case, very few devices you can put if you pocket are scratch proof.

Im gonna go with they look good so people actually care when they start to look crappy cell phones meh no biggy.

 

[EricBrian]

and ... what kind of idiot doesn't protect a $200 - $500 investment?

I agree with you... the powerbook I bought back in April is still in its original box stored in a bank vault.