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the new touch can have up to 36 hours of audio battery life....... 6 for video. could be better, 40 hours for audio and 12 for video ...

USER REPLACEABLE BATTERYS!
The battery life improves incrementally for every product over time.... but technology grows by leaps and bounds... leaving the device even more thirsty for battery-power.

When the original iTouch was introduced it had no iTunes/App Store on board... so was plain internet brower/iPod.... but with the new bells and whistles the battery improvements were imminent.

The battery numbers claimed by manufacturers means nothing! Might be true if you let your iPod go on and on for 36 hrs without fiddling with the screen or anything of that sort. Try real-life usage figures. The screen draws lot of power plus the iTouch and iPhone (worst in this case) have lot of other sensors and gadgetry.... Touch-Screen, WiFi, 3G and sensors dont get a ride for free... so when you will be accessing someones Playlist over the WiFi in the future U will be drawing power for Screen, WiFi and Audio Playback and the battery performance will be miles away from the predicted numbers for Cupertino!

User replaceable batteries sound ok, but still its not always that you will carry them around and everyone will want to shell out extra bucks for batteries! Plus this will swell the device's form factor and mar its solid-form factor and looks. What we really need is a jump... sorta something on the lines of the Li-Ion technology from the earlier Ni-Cd batteries!
 
i like it how you buy a ipod and then a week later they come out with a new one....
oh well but im happy with my itouch. i only wish i had a external controller for it because its an inconvenience to take the ipod out of my pocket and look at it and have to touch it up to get the right volume or next song. you know what im saying?

Or a year later.
 
If Nike+ is not using the Bluetooth chip which is inside the new iTouch means that Apple will activate the Bluetooth chip later thru a s/w update and we might be able to use this for bluetooth file transfer.....
If they enable this for iTouch then I can see it coming to my iPhone too :D
Your logic escapes me. iPhone already has a full-blown Bluetooth chip and Apple still does not allow file transfers through it, so what makes it more likely that Apple will enable this feature for iPod Touch?
 
Possible Antenna

If the chip can do wifi, bluetooth and fm...Would the bluetooth and fm not need dedicated antennas as well?

I had a Nokia phone with FM radio built in. It used the headphone cable as the antenna for the radio. It could be possible that Apple plan to do something similar when/if they activate the FM capabilities of this chip.

James
 
I have got to get my butt down to the Apple Store to check out that new Touch. It looks ridiculously thin! What a beautiful piece of design work.

Also, I need to see if the yellow Nano looks good in person, if so it's gonna be real hard to resist...
 
Your logic escapes me. iPhone already has a full-blown Bluetooth chip and Apple still does not allow file transfers through it, so what makes it more likely that Apple will enable this feature for iPod Touch?

iPhone already has Bluetooth chip to support the single ear Phone-ear piece.
But with Bluetooth making its way into iTouch where it serves no such function we know that apple definitely has some plans for Bluetooth under the wraps. And if they are planning to open up the Bluetooth on iTouch for Stereo-headphones and Bluetooth-file transfer then it only makes sense that it will trickle down to the iPhone.
 
If anything

If anything the new 3g's should get nike+ support. Seriously apple, aren't you trying to get people to buy the iphone??? not give the touch more then the phone?? right now how if i had to pick between the two, the touch seems like a much better choice. My 3g already feels out of date... If nike+ isnt put in someone else will do it via cydia or appstore ?? maybe someone else could come out with their own type of thing, and make items to secure it to the shoe, to be used with any shoe and make a lot off of it.

Well anyway my 3g shouldnt be outdated by the new touch... thats just wrong. and apple not everyone cares about getting paper thin items.... my 16gig 3g is soo thin compared to my old zenmicro and zen microphoto. and that was 8 gigs, and the phone does soooooooo much more.... .

but <3 :apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple:
 
The mic wouldn't need to be in the guide. There is no "apple" voice recording application! iPhone doesn't have instructions on the mic either, as it's just for making call. BUT you can use it in apps (which the touch can).

Why put something in the user guide to get someone confused, thinking there iPod can make notes, but cant! It's the app's!

People think like apple before speculating and a lot of things make sense.
 
hey, wait a minute, my macbook has a bluetooth chip. Does that mean I can take it running with me??:rolleyes:

Yea Right! Also you can try playing Ashalt 4, Super Monkey Ball, Listen to Music and Put your Macbook next to your ear (and chat away with ur partner)... wait a sec U might even be able to use those new funky Apple earbuds for recording Voice Memo's.... while you are at it.....

Think Different! :apple::rolleyes:
 
doesn't apple realize the fanatics out there would pay money just to tear it apart and find the bluetooth chip? why don't they just say it is in there?!

I think because they don't have a service or product for it currently, it's completely useless. Why advertise something that cannot be used?
 

Engadgt says that the broadcom chips also serves as a WiFi functionality and they believe Nike+ used WiFi communcation protocol....
Why choose a WiFi cum Bluetooth chip when they can save money(just marginally though) and be a bit more power efficient by using a WiFi only chip?

Ofcourse... they might have gone for... get more dough for the same price approach.... but why not use something which is there already.... then to keep it tapped and unusable?
 
Broadcom BCM4325 Spec Sheet Data

If the chip can do wifi, bluetooth and fm...Would the bluetooth and fm not need dedicated antennas as well?

I had a Nokia phone with FM radio built in. It used the headphone cable as the antenna for the radio. It could be possible that Apple plan to do something similar when/if they activate the FM capabilities of this chip.

James

I just read from the spec sheet that this chip uses a single antenna for wifi, bluetooth, and FM. Therefore, the antenna required to enable all these features is ALREADY in the unit since it has wifi now. All that remains is for Apple to turn on these features in a software update. Also, this chip DOES support A2DP stereo bluetooth output.

"The BCM4325 implements the highly sophisticated InConcert radio
coexistence algorithms and hardware mechanisms allowing for an
extremely collaborative coexistence scheme along with coexistence
support for external radios (such as GPS, WiMax, or Ultra Wide-Band
radio technologies, as well as cellular radios) and a single shared
Antenna."
 
Hmmm.....

Just means that we're gonna get Nike+ support pretty soon and some other bluetooth features as well if Apple decides to publicly unveil the feature set.... maybe WiFi sharing b/w iPhones and iPods Touch like in the Zune!

As for the FM... no antenna is present (citation req) and more importantly.... no Interest by Apple! So if the antenna is present then maybe a basbeband firmware change (jailbreaking) might be able to activate the feature if Broadcom already doesnt sell the product to Apple with the FM transceiver locked out!

Why should they do that? It would cost more money.
 
Very bad planning on Nike's part if this isn't actually transmitted via Bluetooth. Installing a proprietary chip just so a few people can use it with their overpriced running shoes just doesn't seem worth it, unless Nike paid Apple a huge boatload of cash to do it.

Adding Bluetooth capability would be FAR more useful to many more people.

They couldn't use Bluetooth.

They could use ZigBee or Bluetooth Low Energy, or a proprietary solution.

Bluetooth Low Energy isn't out yet.

Nike+'s battery lasts the life of the device.

Think about it.
 
The important question here is whether Apple will firmware baseband unlock the Bluetooth functionality (if indeed the Nike+ is NOT using it) or leave it just like that! FM is well obviously a no go and we can all forget about it!
 
I just read from the spec sheet that this chip uses a single antenna for wifi, bluetooth, and FM. Therefore, the antenna required to enable all these features is ALREADY in the unit since it has wifi now. All that remains is for Apple to turn on these features in a software update. Also, this chip DOES support A2DP stereo bluetooth output.

"The BCM4325 implements the highly sophisticated InConcert radio
coexistence algorithms and hardware mechanisms allowing for an
extremely collaborative coexistence scheme along with coexistence
support for external radios (such as GPS, WiMax, or Ultra Wide-Band
radio technologies, as well as cellular radios) and a single shared
Antenna."

Wow, sounds like the chip has a lot of potential.
 
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