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iPod Software 2.0.1!!!

Sony Earphones for iPod

Originally posted by icetraxxg5
I have decided that I really love my new iPod :D

Kinda off topic, but, does anyone know a good pair of earbuds or lightweight headphones that will work well with the (3Gen) iPod? I lost my Apple earbuds today :( (not like they were that great)

Thanks
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The Sony MDR-E888 ($79.99) are excellent earbuds, but a little uncomfortable. Almost as good are the Sony MDR-EX71 ($49.99) and they're alot more comfortable. They are both even avalible in a style that has a much shorter cord and works well with the iPod remote. You can get the short cord style at Minidisco.com:

http://www.minidisco.com/mics-headphones-headphones.html

Look for the models with the SP or SL at the end of the model no. for the short cord style.
 
anyone else noticed that when you plug the ipod in it mounts faster than it did before. I plugged it in, and 1-2 second i say it on my desktop...maybe its just me...


STOP BITCHING ABOUT THE 2.0 SOFTWARE FOR OLDER IPODS...
 
Originally posted by swahilibill
STOP BITCHING ABOUT THE 2.0 SOFTWARE FOR OLDER IPODS...
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not until they release the new version. so petition with me and we will all shut up.
 
Originally posted by evilfunkgenius
not until they release the new version. so petition with me and we will all shut up.
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you know, thats pretty spoiled, its called upgrades, a better system. When I bought my iMac G4 last year, and then the 17" came out, I didnt bitch like a little baby to upgrade my 1 month old 15" for free! Get over it...
 
Originally posted by buseman
Whats wrong with the 1.3 version?

I have a 5 GB model that I bought 18 months ago and its as good as ever. Great battery life and no bloat ;)
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bravo! you're the first gen1 or gen2 owner that i've heard speak up and say that 'hey! this ipod that i've bragged to everyone about owning? i don't hate it because after i bought it, a better one came out!!'


glad to hear the clicking is gone - that would have kept me from getting a gen3 all out - the gen 2's are getting pretty cheap (well, i guess that's relative).

oh, and again, 3400 sigs won't do it. stop asking. 34,000 wouldn't do it. 340,000 wouldn't do it, and I think we're all tired of hearing about how the old ipods now suck because you can't update your software, when you're not even sure if the hardware is capable.

matt
 
For all the people that are complaining about the old iPods not having the same functions as the new ones, join my petition for a free upgrade for my 1991 honda accord becuase the 2003 accord has better features.:)
 
older iPods

Many people here are talking about how older iPod users should just deal with it, and have made references such as not getting a new free computer or car when those are upgraded. Those things aren't software. The older iPod users aren't saying they should get a free 30 gb iPod because they're 5 gb iPod is outdated. They just want the software. Considering both have the same number of buttons and a scrollwheel, I don't know why its so hard to do it, or why apple is just refusing to. Older iPod users still won't have the larger HD, touch sensitive scroll wheel, sleeker, lighter, smaller iPod, backlights on the keys, better backlight on the screen (?), etc, etc.

So, why won't apple do it, and why are the new iPod users all getting so mad?
 
Because there is no proof that the new iPod is inherintly different in design that prevents Apple doing it. I believe this is most likely the case.

Look how massive this software upgrade was, and how small the old ones were.

I also believe that this topic should NOT be discussed to death on every iPod thread. This thread is about the update for the new iPods, what it fixes, what people notice, any new bugs.

AppleMatt
 
Originally posted by evilfunkgenius
Why won't they release updated software for us older iPod users?
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For the same reason that Apple no longer releases updates for OS 9 and Microsoft no longer releases updates for Win95 - it has been superceded by a newer model.

I think it is perfectly reasonable for Apple to stop releasing updates at this point for the older models, unless any major new bugs are revealed (unlikely). They already have more functionality than when you bought them, so what is the big complaint? It's not as if Apple ever promised they would release a productivity suite or a 3-D rendering package that would run on the 1G iPod - they've already given you more than they advertised!

If you are so worried about things you own becoming obsolescent, you shouldn't be buying technology products...
 
Originally posted by chicagdan
I just bought a pair of $40 earbuds at the Sony store on Michigan Ave (same block as the amazing new Apple Store opening in 8 days, including an Internet cafe!)

Anyway, I'm not sure what model number these are, but they sound great, much better fit than the Apple stock buds (they come with three different sizes of earbud caps) plus the bass is significantly better. And they block out more noise of the world ... which is why we buy iPods anyway, right?
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I bought my noise-cancelling earbuds from the same store, not long ago.

They are great for blocking out excessive siren noise, loud commuters and engine noises.

MDR-EX-51

Only complaint is that they roll off too much upper midrange; kick drums and audio in that range is dampened to accomodate the low frequencies.

They are MUCH better than the ones provided by Apple, who needs to realize that not everyone wants to shove saucers in their ears to listen to music.
 
Has anyone noticed if it's fixed the order the on-the-go albums turn up in?

ie: if you add a whole album to an OTG playlist it will order the songs in order they were added to the iPod, not the track number order.

dammit. I have to wait till I get home from work to download and test it ;)
 
Originally posted by macrumors12345
If you are so worried about things you own becoming obsolescent, you shouldn't be buying technology products...
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Exactly, also why would apple want to allow new features to be in older iPods, people would just buy the older ones, they can do the same things, only they are less expensive and a little larger in physical size.

Well enough of that, the update worked great for me and the clicking is gone, haven't played with it much to notice a speed boost in other areas. All in all pretty stoked on the update.
 
Originally posted by swahilibill
you know, thats pretty spoiled, its called upgrades, a better system. When I bought my iMac G4 last year, and then the 17" came out, I didnt bitch like a little baby to upgrade my 1 month old 15" for free! Get over it...
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No, but you would be upset if 10.3 did not work on it. All we are asking for is the SOFTWARE. I don't think that is too much to ask for.
 
2.0.1 fixed my 30GB iPod

I had a problem with my 30GB iPod with the lock icon wouldn't go away. I accidently left the iPod locked while I was listening to it one night. I feel asleep and realized the lock button was engaged. I didn't have it plugged in to AC power or into my laptop. I tried sliding the lock switch to unlock and it didn't work. I wrestled it with it for 3 weeks trying to fix it.

I was planning to call Apple support tomorrow to call in the problem because I'm on vacation and I finally have some time to concentrate on it. Well, I saw the 2.0.1 Update notice on here today and decided to give it a whirl in hopes that it would fix my problem. Low and behold, after applying the update, the lock icon finally disappeared and its working like a champ. Funny, the description of the update didn't mention any fix for this.

Oh well, I'm happy and I can rest easy now.

CheekyGit :D
 
Re: Hmmm

Originally posted by 5thorseman
I don't see any increased on-the-go playlist functionality, nevermind backlight functionality...

"Clear" was there before the update, wasn't it?

What extra functionality has been added?
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In 2.0, if you were in the middle of an on-the-go playlist and you added additional songs, the iPod wouldn't recognize the new additions.

The increased functionality of 2.0.1 does this.

Also, Clear was indeed present in the last version.
 
Originally posted by chicagdan
Why is it that, even though I have a new four-button iPod, updater 2.0.1 doesn't show up in Mac update, but that annoying 1.3 update is there and won't go away?
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Go to Update-Make Inactive, or command -
 
Re: older iPods

Originally posted by Ja Di ksw
They just want the software. Considering both have the same number of buttons and a scrollwheel, I don't know why its so hard to do it, or why apple is just refusing to.
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Excellent point. And in the same spirit, I would like to add that considering that both the current PowerMac and the old Mac SE I owned years ago have a keyboard with the same number of keys and a mouse with the same number of buttons, I don't know why its so hard to port Mac OS X to run on the SE, or why Apple is just refusing to do it.

Give me a break - this is like complaining that Microsoft doesn't release big updates for Word 98 after Word v.X came out, or that Adobe no longer releases major updates for Photoshop 6 now that Photoshop 7 is out. If Apple had not released AAC capability for the 1G/2G iPods, *then* I could see being pissed off, but they *did* release AAC support. Of course, if you had bought an iPod competitor, e.g. Creative Nomad Jukebox instead, you would *still* be waiting for a firmware update that gives you AAC support...
 
Originally posted by KershMan
No, but you would be upset if 10.3 did not work on it. All we are asking for is the SOFTWARE. I don't think that is too much to ask for.
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I agree with you. The irony is half of the 3rd gen ipod owners that are bitching about the gen 1 & 2 bitching will be bitching themselves when apple refuses to update the 3rd gen ipods when the 4th gen comes out :)
 
Originally posted by KershMan
No, but you would be upset if 10.3 did not work on it. All we are asking for is the SOFTWARE. I don't think that is too much to ask for.
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It's more analagous to the situation if (this is hypothetical) 10.3 were to require a ppc970 to run. I wouldn't be demanding that apple make it run on my g4, because I understand that there are differences between the g4 and the 970 at a lower level than just the bloody shape of the case. The 3g ipod is not just a 2g ipod in a different case. What you're asking for is for apple to develop a new OS for the 1/2g ipods. If that's the case, fine, ask all you want. But you people who act like apple is just withholding it in some sort of trick to get you to buy a new one are just plain off base. Maybe if you were to say "hey apple, we'll each pay you $20 in exchange for adding all these new features to our old hardware" ... then maybe. But whining about apple supposedly screwing you over is just wrong...
 
This is so unbelievably absurd that this gen 3,2,1 iPod software situation is turning into some kind of class warefare. This may not be the case, but if you gen 3 guys read your posts you sound like a bunch of stuck up rich people who are talking down to the peons who have no right to request those things that you have.

Please understand try to understand this and stop relating this to buying cars because it is in no way analagous to the iPod software situatuation

If you bought a powermac 6 moths ago (about how long ago i got my 10 gig) you would expect apple to continue updating software for it for atleast a couple years after your purchase if not longer. Realize that 10.2 even works on original iMacs despite their age.

If Apple only allowed 10.3 to work on new computers, but didn't allow it to work on older computers just because they didn't feel like writing the software despite the fact that the hardware would support it, you would all be pretty pissed I think.

And that's all we're really asking for. If it IS POSSIBLE with the old hardware they should eventually make the software for older iPods. Not right away. Let them use it as a selling point for right now. But I want it EVENTUALLY.

You all need to stop it with this snotty attitude. I don't know where it came from, but it makes you look childish. For christ sake listen to yourselves

(P.S. I will gouge my eyes out if one more person tries to relate this to buying a car. )

(P.S.S Ask yourself this question: Why do I want so badly for gen 1,2 iPod owners not to have the new software? Seriously)

Matt
 
I've got a pair of Sennheiser earbuds, model MX-500. They're cheap (under $20), and probably not audiophile quality. But I don't usually engage my audiophile critical listening sensors when I'm out on the street; I save that for when I get home, and the nice speakers I blew way too much money on. The sennheisers do give better sound than the iPod earbuds, and they're not so expensive that I cringe to go out with them.

I also found this review/dissection of the new iPod. Of interest, from the sixth page of the review:

The first thing you have to keep in mind (and we'll confirm this when we take the unit apart later in the review) is that the new iPod has no more memory and has a processor virtually identical to that of the old iPod. Any software that can run on the old iPod should have no problem running on the new one. With that said, it doesn't make sense for Apple to release the new firmware for the old iPod as it could potentially reduce the number of iPod upgraders out there.
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...not that I want to see this flame/argument go on much more...
 
Re: older iPods

Originally posted by Ja Di ksw
Considering both have the same number of buttons and a scrollwheel, I don't know why its so hard to do it, or why apple is just refusing to.
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My Performa 6115CD has a keyboard and a mouse, just like my iMac. Why can't I run Jaguar on it?

My mom's '96 Civic hatchback has four tires and a steering wheel, just like the new Civic Si's. Why won't Honda upgrade her engine to the new 160-hp one?

You think that similarity of exterior features means that the interiors are the same? The two Eras of iPod(tm) do seem to use ROUGHLY the same CPU, but they're not identical, and certainly the rest of the mobos have almost nothing in common. Check out the review of the 3G iPod at Anandtech--it's pretty obvious that everything else on the PCB has changed significantly.

Look, we have no proof that it would be impossible to run iPod SW 2.0 on the 1G and 2G iPods. But more importantly, we have no proof that it would be possible either. Apple is under no obligation to provide everyone free upgrades for everything forever. It seems to me that there's probably enough hardware difference between the two flavors of iPod to mean that it would take a significant amount of developer effort to run iPod SW 2.0 on the old ones, if it's even possible.

(Whoa, I just noticed that macrumors12345 posted almost exactly the same thing! I swear, I typed all this without looking at his post...)

mkaake is totally right. It just isn't going to happen.* So GIVE UP ALREADY!!! Stop demanding that people sign some idiotic petition that won't work anyway. Stop hijacking threads about the new iPods with rants about your old ones and how Apple doesn't love you anymore. As someone else pointed out, Apple's already given you more functionality than you paid for, and fixed the outstanding bugs AFAIK.

Thank you. I hope this wasn't too redundant.

WM

*I suppose it's possible. But if it does happen, it probably won't be because all of you bitched for all you were worth. Perhaps someone will point to the MDD PS replacement thing as a precedent, but I think that's different. That would be like if the batteries in the iPods blew up after a few months of use--it's a quality issue, not a functionality issue.
 
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Originally posted by swahilibill
you know, thats pretty spoiled, its called upgrades, a better system. When I bought my iMac G4 last year, and then the 17" came out, I didnt bitch like a little baby to upgrade my 1 month old 15" for free! Get over it...
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Didn't your 1 month old 15" run the same software as the new model? And everytime Apple upgraded the software for the new machines, weren't you included in that? Could you imagine if you buy a Mac and the only OS that worked on it was the one you bought with the machine! I'm not asking for a new iPod, just update the software. They could sell it for $10.
 
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