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iPod Software 2.0.1!!!
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Eh?
That is so not the same. We're not talking about major costly hardware upgrades. We're talking about a gesture by offering a software upgrade for a premium priced product. Hell, I'd *pay* for an upgrade, just for on-the-go playlists. That's easily worth $10 to me. And anyway, what's wrong with saying what we want? Apple sure as hell won't do it, free or not, if we're all here saying "Nah, we don't care about an upgrade. We'll pay another $400 for a better system", We're not unhappy with what we have, we're just hoping for that something more. Why is that such a bad thing?
That's a very ungenerous attitude you have there. I will not "get over it".
- Jimmni
That is so not the same. We're not talking about major costly hardware upgrades. We're talking about a gesture by offering a software upgrade for a premium priced product. Hell, I'd *pay* for an upgrade, just for on-the-go playlists. That's easily worth $10 to me. And anyway, what's wrong with saying what we want? Apple sure as hell won't do it, free or not, if we're all here saying "Nah, we don't care about an upgrade. We'll pay another $400 for a better system", We're not unhappy with what we have, we're just hoping for that something more. Why is that such a bad thing?
That's a very ungenerous attitude you have there. I will not "get over it".
- Jimmni
so what does this mean:
"Product Description:
The update command downloads new software to an iPod. The update command may be disabled if the iPod does not need to be updated because it already has up-to-date software. The restore command returns an iPod to 'factory fresh' condition. It erases and reformats the iPod before downloading new software. WARNING: The restore command erases all of the music and other data currently on the iPod."
sorry, im dumb.
It means when you download the software update for the iPod and use the iPod 2.0 updater it gives you two options: you can update the iPod's software to 2.0.1 (and leaves all your music/settings intact) or you can restore your iPod to 2.0.1 which makes the iPod factory fresh and erases all your music and settings.
Can we please keep this thread on topic! It would be awesome if I could read others experiences with the iPod 2.0.1 software instead of wasting my time sifting through all the junk replys about people whining that their old iPod can't take the newer software; Please, STOP whining.
Hey icetraxxg5, why don't you first take a chill then realize that somecows post has nothing to do with old ipods.
somecows -
Basically when you open the updater, you have two options.
1. Update to new software.
2. Restore to factory settings.
So, if you downlaod the new updater and install it and launch it and you have version 2.0 and the version you just downloaded is 2.01, the update button will be enabled. If you have 2.01 Installed and you download 2.01, the update button will be disabled (you won't even be able to update it) and your only option is to restore. Which there is no reason to do because your up to date on software releases.
If you do an update, it will not erase your songs, settings, etc. If you do a restore, your songs, settings, etc. will be eraased.
The moral of the story: If you want to keep all your soft on your ipod, update it. If you want a frsh install, do a restore. Hope that helps.
somecows -
Basically when you open the updater, you have two options.
1. Update to new software.
2. Restore to factory settings.
So, if you downlaod the new updater and install it and launch it and you have version 2.0 and the version you just downloaded is 2.01, the update button will be enabled. If you have 2.01 Installed and you download 2.01, the update button will be disabled (you won't even be able to update it) and your only option is to restore. Which there is no reason to do because your up to date on software releases.
If you do an update, it will not erase your songs, settings, etc. If you do a restore, your songs, settings, etc. will be eraased.
The moral of the story: If you want to keep all your soft on your ipod, update it. If you want a frsh install, do a restore. Hope that helps.
OK, after a day with this software, it's an utter Godsend. that popping/cracking noise beetween tracks was drinving me out of my mind like mad. that's gone. beautiful. that would have been enough. the other feature that i like is the alarm clock. now when you set it, you can turn it off, and it makes a decent beep (not loud enough to wak a heavy sleeper but OK) and then starts playing music when the alarm goes off. these are really the only problems i had noticed, other than a sluggish interface at times, which still happens a bit, but not as bad. i haven't had a chance to mess with the on-the-go playlist feature either.
no, no...
I was talking about the people that keep hijacking every new iPod thread about how the new 2.0 software doesn't work with their older iPods... I wasn't referring to what somecows said.
I was talking about the people that keep hijacking every new iPod thread about how the new 2.0 software doesn't work with their older iPods... I wasn't referring to what somecows said.
thanks
Mr. MacPhisto, thanks for answering my posts. Good to hear some logic behind it. I had thought that it might hinder sales of the new iPods, but figured that their size dif (5 gb vs 30 gb) would keep that from happening too much. I like the idea of just waiting for the old inventory to go. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks, far too many people are too concerned with insulting people who don't already think they same way they do, instead of just answering questions.
Again, I'm not b****ing about not having the software so much as asking why they aren't doing it, though I know saying that still won't stop some people from insulting me, and others who ask.
Mr. MacPhisto, thanks for answering my posts. Good to hear some logic behind it. I had thought that it might hinder sales of the new iPods, but figured that their size dif (5 gb vs 30 gb) would keep that from happening too much. I like the idea of just waiting for the old inventory to go. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks, far too many people are too concerned with insulting people who don't already think they same way they do, instead of just answering questions.
Again, I'm not b****ing about not having the software so much as asking why they aren't doing it, though I know saying that still won't stop some people from insulting me, and others who ask.
Re: ipod not resuming from sleep
Exact same problem with my 15gig. I am installing the update now and will see if it fixes it...
otherwise i'm going to have to head down to the apple store...
Exact same problem with my 15gig. I am installing the update now and will see if it fixes it...
otherwise i'm going to have to head down to the apple store...
Re: ipod not resuming from sleep - seems to have fixed it
i finally got to download the update last night and it seems to have fixed it. i have tested it 3 times so far and it's worked everytime.
cool mc gool i am so happy now.
i finally got to download the update last night and it seems to have fixed it. i have tested it 3 times so far and it's worked everytime.
cool mc gool i am so happy now.
The backlight!
The 2.0 software had a bug that when you'd turn the iPod off (hold Play/Pause for a couple of seconds) and back on immediately, the backlight would not work. This bug is now fixed
Okay, since nobody got that one here, I'll explain it to you... I had a thread about that one a while ago, but nobody knew what was going on
The 2.0 software had a bug that when you'd turn the iPod off (hold Play/Pause for a couple of seconds) and back on immediately, the backlight would not work. This bug is now fixed
So this is just a little message, to set the record straight.
The only technical aspect of the new iPods that is different from the original iPod, is the backlighting system on the buttons + the LCD. All the electronic components are virtually the same and the 2.0.1 firmware is based on 1.3 standard.
The appalling decision not to continue support for the previous iPod shows Apple's gratitude to those who made the iPod what is it is today.
So to all of those who have a new iPod and think that the users who want improved software are simply whinning, I hope your 3rd Gen iPod gets scratched.javascript: smilie('')
Secondly those who show their ignorance by comparing a Mac SE to a G4 - well I have nothing to say really.
The only technical aspect of the new iPods that is different from the original iPod, is the backlighting system on the buttons + the LCD. All the electronic components are virtually the same and the 2.0.1 firmware is based on 1.3 standard.
The appalling decision not to continue support for the previous iPod shows Apple's gratitude to those who made the iPod what is it is today.
So to all of those who have a new iPod and think that the users who want improved software are simply whinning, I hope your 3rd Gen iPod gets scratched.javascript: smilie('
')Secondly those who show their ignorance by comparing a Mac SE to a G4 - well I have nothing to say really.
So go buy a Creative Nomad Jukebox instead if you think Apple is screwing over its users. Oh, wait, that's right, if you had bought that MP3 player instead you will STILL be waiting for them to release a firmware update so that you could play AAC encoded files. Good thing you got the iPod instead, huh?
The point is, Apple has done more than its competitors to provide you with critical and important firmware updates. Could they do more? Sure. But the general market thinks that they are already providing more updates than they need to (since they are still being more responsive than their competitors), so don't expect anything to happen in the near future. Welcome to capitalism.
someone on /. mentioned that apple had out-sourced the firmware development for 1/2 G iPods but opted to develop their own for the 3G. i don't know the accuracy of this information, but if such is the case, it now makes sense why:
1) 3G firmware in its initial release (2.0) had some noticeable problems as it was apple's first attempt.
and
2) 1/2 G firmwares aren't updated to the same degree as 2.0 as apple would have to ask the outside developers to update them.
just my $0.02.
1) 3G firmware in its initial release (2.0) had some noticeable problems as it was apple's first attempt.
and
2) 1/2 G firmwares aren't updated to the same degree as 2.0 as apple would have to ask the outside developers to update them.
just my $0.02.
seriously, apple has not utterly pulled support for the old iPods. they let them run AAC.
apple has no obligations to add features to the old iPods. anyone who is bitching about a feature we got as new buyers that you don't have can go sit on your hand. no one adds new features to old stuff. that removes the incentive to buy the new! apple sold you an iPod with the features it had, and you paid. you can't complain that they came out with something better that you have to pay more money for! that happens ALL THE TIME. it's the way of the computer world.
that said, this update is a fix to problems with basic stuff on our new iPods. my iPod was making skipping noise between every song. i didn't pay $500 for an audio player to skip like a record player. it fixed a feature called alarm clock--that was on these iPods before, an advertised feature, that did not work. they didn't add unadvertised functionality, they fixed advertised functionality. if you guys are having some tech issues with your old iPods that is a sofware issue that can't be fixed by a reset/restore, you should contact apple. but none of this complaining about how you can't do games on it. or what ever feature on the new ones you don't have on the old. that's not "pulling support," it's "not adding functionality"/"adding a reason for you to get the new iPod."
apple has no obligations to add features to the old iPods. anyone who is bitching about a feature we got as new buyers that you don't have can go sit on your hand. no one adds new features to old stuff. that removes the incentive to buy the new! apple sold you an iPod with the features it had, and you paid. you can't complain that they came out with something better that you have to pay more money for! that happens ALL THE TIME. it's the way of the computer world.
that said, this update is a fix to problems with basic stuff on our new iPods. my iPod was making skipping noise between every song. i didn't pay $500 for an audio player to skip like a record player. it fixed a feature called alarm clock--that was on these iPods before, an advertised feature, that did not work. they didn't add unadvertised functionality, they fixed advertised functionality. if you guys are having some tech issues with your old iPods that is a sofware issue that can't be fixed by a reset/restore, you should contact apple. but none of this complaining about how you can't do games on it. or what ever feature on the new ones you don't have on the old. that's not "pulling support," it's "not adding functionality"/"adding a reason for you to get the new iPod."
Where does it say that you will get a featureset on par with eventual new models? Be happy you got full AAC support and stop whining.
As for why they haven't implemented the new features, I'm leaning towards the fact that it is a technical issue. As an example, try resetting the old iPods and the clock and everything will be reset. Not so with the new models. They probably lack the memory the new models hold, and maintaining three generations would be no small feet indeed. Also notice that the new firmware is no less than 30MB, where the old firmwares never were larger than around 5MB.
As for why they haven't implemented the new features, I'm leaning towards the fact that it is a technical issue. As an example, try resetting the old iPods and the clock and everything will be reset. Not so with the new models. They probably lack the memory the new models hold, and maintaining three generations would be no small feet indeed. Also notice that the new firmware is no less than 30MB, where the old firmwares never were larger than around 5MB.
Sure they do. If apple abandons every product as soon as the next generation comes out, why should I bother with their products?
No, of course I don't expect them to have all the whiz-bang features of the new product, but Apple would seriously piss off a lot of people if, for example, Panther didn't work on G4s and faster G3s.
I am the owner of a first generation g4 dual and also the new g4 dual. Many years seperates them now. But I still can use osx on both. Even if the new G5 is out with panther.... and panther will run on my G4 duals . What i mean is that Gen2 ipod users deserve to have the 2.0 working on their ipods also. Maybe not the 1st gen but at least the 2nd. Another exemple... I bought a Kodak digital camera last year, even if the new models are out the software updates work on both new and old. Same for my umax scanner or Microsoft mouse etc... Stop comparing cars and tires. It only make sens that Apple support at least 2nd generation ipod users. Look at other comments above about the features... not that much more isn't it? So, 2nd Gen ipods should be able to support it. Ok maybe not... but Please Apple tell us if it is not !!!!!
Sorry for my bad english BTW!!!
. What i mean is that Gen2 ipod users deserve to have the 2.0 working on their ipods also. Maybe not the 1st gen but at least the 2nd. Another exemple... I bought a Kodak digital camera last year, even if the new models are out the software updates work on both new and old. Same for my umax scanner or Microsoft mouse etc... Stop comparing cars and tires. It only make sens that Apple support at least 2nd generation ipod users. Look at other comments above about the features... not that much more isn't it? So, 2nd Gen ipods should be able to support it. Ok maybe not... but Please Apple tell us if it is not !!!!!Sorry for my bad english BTW!!!