Um because the iphone uses NAND flash memory which takes up less space than a 1.8in hard drive which is what will hold 160gb of data in the new ipod Touch.
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Um because the iphone uses NAND flash memory which takes up less space than a 1.8in hard drive which is what will hold 160gb of data in the new ipod Touch.
I tend to think low, to be honest. It eats battery life and when combined with a HDD, it could be like the SNL "Evening Edition" skit on the iPhone where, when asked how long the battery lasted, "Steve" replied "20 minutes".
From the company that has something like 4 billion in cash assets. I always enjoy people who think that MS is getting thrashed. For the first 3 years of its existence the Palm Sized PC got the live snot kicked out of it by Palm....But they kept coming back and coming back and coming back and coming back. MS has the resources to redo the zune over and over and over again until they hit on something. To MS the music market is an interesting pastime until they find something else that attracts their attention.
As for the iPod Video....bring it. If they put a 160GB drive in it I will be over it like..well like something I can't say on a forum.
this is what I see happening...
basically, ive always seen the nano as the original ipod. it is good for everyone who bought the originals. now they can do that again with the current ipods with videos. just make em smaller, make room for new catagory.
basically, ive always seen the nano as the original ipod. it is good for everyone who bought the originals. now they can do that again with the current ipods with videos. just make em smaller, make room for new catagory.
I hear ya. I've only dropped my shuffle twice, but, and I've told this story elsewhere, last week I left it in my pocket, ear buds and all, put it through the wash, then my clothes sat in the washing machine for three hours or so until I suddenly remembered that I had laundry in the wash, and that my iPod was probably in there.
It's fine, just had to let it sit and dry out for a day or two, then recharged it. Ear buds are fine too. Frankly I'm more surprised the ear buds survived than the shuffle.
So they are borrowing names from other(same also) companies again? The Creative Zen Touch and the HTC Touch. Can't Apple come up with a more unique name? I doubt 32gig will be used in the current ipod as that is still on the pricey side. Maybe if they added SDHC support that be another story. Let say a 16gig flash ipod, then when 32gig SDHC cards become priced right, people can have the option of using on of those.
I think you're right. Apple goes to great lengths to control leaks, but nothing can really stop the rampant illegality in China. They are like the Wild West frontier of Capitalism. Every once in a while the Sheriff strings someone up to scare the rest of them, but they are essentially left on their own otherwise.
The Chinese government and Chinese businesses on average have little if any respect for any kind of IP laws (or safety laws, protected species laws, the selling of illegal products, etc. etc. ). Commercial espionage and IP theft is often seen as "par for the course" for many of China's business' and the average factory worker in China would probably not see anything wrong with releasing this kind of information to a friend overseas. The people leaking this kind of stuff are also completely out of reach of the law as long as they stay on the mainland, so who's going to stop them anyway?
PS - I know I just made some large generalisations there, but as such (generalisations), they are still true. I am not trying to say that all businesses in China are evil or bad or anything of the sort. I am sure there are many fine, honestly run operations and many moral upstanding citizens just like any other country.
It's important to note also that I am talking about Chinese business practices and the structure of Chinese law and society here, and *not* the Chinese as a people. I am not a racist, I have many Chinese friends and family members (although white myself), and this is not a racial issue. It's about how a country governs it's people and the law in that country only.
I'm sure the screen will be the same. The overall form factor will be similar, but the casing will be a little different to discriminate it from the iPhone. The HD versions will obviously be a little bit thicker (for anyone wondering why, even a 1.8" HD takes up a lot of space inside an iPod.)
The overall UI will be similar, which as you say gives people familiarity to the UI and probably is a benefit to iPhone sales.
They will strip out the camera and Wifi as well as the phone, to make sure the iPhone is the top of the heap (it had better be with the price). That's the only way they can start the new iPod at $299 for the cheapest version, without making the iPhone look too overpriced.
The overall UI will be similar, which as you say gives people familiarity to the UI and probably is a benefit to iPhone sales.
They will strip out the camera and Wifi as well as the phone, to make sure the iPhone is the top of the heap (it had better be with the price). That's the only way they can start the new iPod at $299 for the cheapest version, without making the iPhone look too overpriced.
I tend to think low, to be honest. It eats battery life and when combined with a HDD, it could be like the SNL "Evening Edition" skit on the iPhone where, when asked how long the battery lasted, "Steve" replied "20 minutes".
And yet the iPhone with WIFI on gets good battery life. I really don't know why you guys are so down on WIFI. As long as you can turn it off when not in use its not a big deal. I sure as heck would rather have a feature that can be disabled when not in use then not at all. As for the HDD. You guys STILL don't get it. With a large enough cache the HDD would rarely even get touched. Put say a 256-512MB cache on that thing and it would touch the HD maybe once an hour.
They're not THAT much better than mp3, if you use a good mp3 codec such as the LAME presets. Same goes for Divx/Xvid compared to H.264 (there is a much wider gap with these video formats and MPEG2.)
I think jfmartin nailed it. They're keeping the nano's as they are now. They're introducing new iPods (shown on 9to5), and they will also introduce the new big touch-screen iPod.
Everyone knows Ipods are assembled by blind Tibetan monks who have taken an oath of silence, and the the different parts come from dozens of different companies. Ipods are delivered to Apple stores from Tibet through a complex maze of underground tunnels by mole people who also happen to be blind making it impossible for leaks to occur.
Way off!
Apple would never complicate a product line that badly.
The shuffle is going nowhere, the Nano may get renamed and the iPod will become more like the iPhone.
I really hope that the iPod eventually morphs into the iPhone, much like the iPod Photo, just became the iPod.
That will never happen!
Apple would never complicate a product line that badly.
The shuffle is going nowhere, the Nano may get renamed and the iPod will become more like the iPhone.
I really hope that the iPod eventually morphs into the iPhone, much like the iPod Photo, just became the iPod.
I'd LOVE to have Wifi, after all it's just an option you can turn off (and Safari is great on the iPhone!) But I am pretty sure Apple will leave it out to reduce costs, and differentiate between the iPhone and the iPod. Remember at the Expo Jobs introduced the iPhone as a phone, iPod, and internet device. If the iPod basically does 2 out of those 3, it will be too close to the iPhone given the iPhone's price.
Over on the other threads people are worried about tactile feedback on a touch-screen iPod. On this thread there have been assertions (myself included) that the iPod would implement both hard drive and flash memory to act as a buffer (though iPods really already have some capacity of RAM for skip control) anyways, then I stumbled upon an idea. Granted, I in no way think this would ever happen or that its even a good idea, but simply just a bit of a brainstorm. Just stick with me...
iPods have a large capacity hard drive. iPod shuffles have flash memory. An option for controlling the iPod without looking at the screen is the FM remote control, a rebirth of the controller for 3rd gen iPods. The shuffle shares the same styling (clip on the back ftw) and size of the controller, minus FM but gaining flash memory. iPod gains OS X, OS X supports RAID and Xgrid. Plug iPod shuffle into the bottom of the iPod and you get your temporary controller+flash memory. I know, not even going to happen, reducing industrial grade technologies for playing back music, but for some reason I thought of it when considering that I'll probably be getting a shuffle in addition to the next iPod. Alright, nothing to see here, move along.
iPods have a large capacity hard drive. iPod shuffles have flash memory. An option for controlling the iPod without looking at the screen is the FM remote control, a rebirth of the controller for 3rd gen iPods. The shuffle shares the same styling (clip on the back ftw) and size of the controller, minus FM but gaining flash memory. iPod gains OS X, OS X supports RAID and Xgrid. Plug iPod shuffle into the bottom of the iPod and you get your temporary controller+flash memory. I know, not even going to happen, reducing industrial grade technologies for playing back music, but for some reason I thought of it when considering that I'll probably be getting a shuffle in addition to the next iPod. Alright, nothing to see here, move along.
Call me crazy, but I don't think iPods come with a microphone, so that's not much of an issue.
I love my shuffle, I recommend it to people all the time! I resisted it for a long time, but now I think it's awesome. Ideally i'd have the shuffle for some activities and something with a screen for other activities, but until I make more money, the shuffle is all the iPod I really need.
If you are like me and have a good ear for sound, a top notch sound card and quality speakers you can easily tell the difference from MP3 and OGG/AAC, especially when the volume is turned up a bit. MP3 doesn't stand a chance against OGG which not only sounds better but are also better compressed. I took a blind test issued by a HiFi magazine a few years ago, trust me.
I think there is still such a controller for dock connector iPods (it uses the dock connector, not the extra remote jack in the 3G). So no weird changes to the Shuffle are needed to make it function as a remote.
I also posted this, in response to people who are concerned about the touchscreen interface. Even the clickwheel is finicky to use while driving IMO (which is why I use my Shuffle a lot.)
I also posted this, in response to people who are concerned about the touchscreen interface. Even the clickwheel is finicky to use while driving IMO (which is why I use my Shuffle a lot.)
Here's a gorgeous, realistic mockup by a gent named 'Omar' that 9to5mac posted. If it's even close to this, I'm there.
Not that far off !!!
Well, Apple need to expand the product line because other companies are expanding the functionnalities of their product and fill in the blank between the current iPod models...
Apple will keep the nano for a while just because thy are still 'kind of' new and very limited in functionality and may secude people that don't want the simplist deisgn of the shuffle...
The new iPod mini will in fact be very sexy because near the current iPod 5.5 gen in functionality but way much thinner because of the use of the flash memory...
The top of the line need to expand and renewed because of the iPhone effect... now the current iPod look outdated... it is a mather of perception... Apple is very aware of that and will react in accordance...
JF
Well, Apple need to expand the product line because other companies are expanding the functionnalities of their product and fill in the blank between the current iPod models...
Apple will keep the nano for a while just because thy are still 'kind of' new and very limited in functionality and may secude people that don't want the simplist deisgn of the shuffle...
The new iPod mini will in fact be very sexy because near the current iPod 5.5 gen in functionality but way much thinner because of the use of the flash memory...
The top of the line need to expand and renewed because of the iPhone effect... now the current iPod look outdated... it is a mather of perception... Apple is very aware of that and will react in accordance...
JF