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On another note...Steve said that the iPhone is the best iPod they've ever made. I find it really hard to believe he'd make a statement like that and then release an iPod that was inferior (not a touch screen) afterwards. It would be like admitting they are giving us everything that they could offer.

Why not? If the iPhone is indeed the best iPod they ever made, releasing an inferior one would make sure that all us iPhone users were still safe with having the best iPod. :p

Seriously, I expect the "flagship" iPod will have a touchscreen ala the iPhone and similar iPod-related functionality. I have my doubts it will ship with 16GB or 32GB of flash, but instead believe it will have a 1.8" HDD.



You know how you cannibalize iPhone sales? Wi-fi. If you put Wi-fi (for Youtube/sharing/etc) then people will say, hey, if I've got Wi-fi, why not throw Safari on here so I can get online? THAT'S how you cannibalize iPhone sales, you make two separate devices fairly similar in function with just a few things left off here or there...If Apple is really trying to grow the iPhone into it's own separate leg of the company, then the iPod will not have Wi-fi.

Good call.


I think adding Wifi opens a can of worms for Apple...Even if they didn't add Safari themselves, someone might eventually hack it to run the iPhone Safari (if it had Wifi.)

Agreed. Look how quickly folks are hacking our iPhones and how much simpler and easier it is becoming (witness today's "GUI installer"). Since it seems assured that the iPods will also be running OS X, folks are going to figure out how to hack them though the USB port soon enough, to say nothing if Apple makes them networkable via WiFi.

Being a phone is the last reason I bought the iPhone, since I take and make so few calls. It was the iPod and PDA and internet access functionality that compelled me to buy it. Give someone all that, even at $400, and save them the $2000+ I have to give to AT&T for the cellular phone and modem part, and I bet a lot of folks who are shying away from the iPhone would snap up the iPod. The $600 isn't the "deal-breaker" - it's the two years of service charges to AT&T...
 
These are good points but remember that Apple is notorious for releasing/pushing products out that "the masses" want before "the masses" realize they do (USB, consumer DVD burning, portable digital music, legal downloads), and I think the upcoming one Apple will focus on is personal media/video- anywhere. We don't think people "want" a video player in their pocket, but thats mainly because until now it's been more expensive than just going out and buying a nano, almost a luxury item. For $149, getting a super-thin iPod that plays music and video is definitely going to be attractive for the masses. Let's face it, with the onslaught of YouTube and the continued growth of TV shows and movies on iTunes, portable video is going to be everywhere over the next few years and IMO will become a standard feature in the majority of portable media devices, even at much lower price points.

Very valid arguments, Apple are trendsetter.
Dut I still think that there will always be a demand for a compact device which plays music. Although video playback is desirable feature many people have absolute zero interest in watching movies on a "tiny" 2.5 inch screen. Things like games, picture viewing and movie playback are just extras for a lot of people.

Eventhough the iPod G5.5 has been lowered to an extremely attractive price the small and cute Nano still outsells big time. I could see them dump the shuffle though.
 
Here's What i think

iPod Shuffle
Flavors: Silver, Black, Light Green, Light Blue, Orange, and Cranberry/Wine Red(apart of Product Red)
Additions: None
Sizes: 1Gig($75) maybe a 2gig at 100(Probably Not)

iPod Nano:
Flavors: Silver, Black, Light Green, Light Blue, Orange, and Cranberry/Wine Red(Part of Product Red)
Additions: None
Sizes: 1Gig($100), 2Gig($125), 5Gig($175), 10Gig($225)

The All New iPod Mini:
Flavors: Silver, Black, Light Green, Light Blue, and Cranberry/Wine Red(Part of Product Red)
Additions: Video Playback
Sizes: 10Gig($225), 20Gig($275), 40Gig($325)

iPod Video
Flavors: White, Black, Silver
Additions: OS X, Some Wi-Fi Capabilities, Touch Screen
Sizes: 20Gig($300), 50Gig($375), 100Gig($450)
 
This tickled the crap out of me when I saw the article. I actually predicted the iPod Touch, literally, name and all, on July 28th.

Zach Flauaus said:
The iPod will still have the click wheel and will have an interface similar to those videos leaked, but another model is going to be added to the lineup: the iPod Touch.

The iPod Touch will have the same style of touch screen that the iPhone has, except maybe a little bigger. It will have WiFi and Bluetooth in it. The WiFi will be used for Safari, Mail, Google Maps, basically everything that the iPhone uses the cell phone data connection for, but the Bluetooth will add two features to the iPod and one to the iPhone. For the iPod, this will include a DUN (dial-up networking) profile which will allow you to tether your phone over Bluetooth to get the internet wherever you are. The other profile that would be included for both the iPod and the iPhone will be A2DP. One of the biggest letdowns for the iPhone was the fact that A2DP wasn’t included. If you aren’t familiar, A2DP lets you stream music/audio over Bluetooth to either a Bluetooth audio adapter or Bluetooth headphones.


For the finer specifications, here’s my thoughts. The click-wheel iPod will be bumped up to 40GB and 80GB of storage, not that different than it is now. The iPod Touch on the other hand will have a 60GB and 100GB storage option. It will have a 3.5” screen, like the iPhone, but will take out the unnecessary bulkiness needed for the earpiece at the top. The “Home” button is not out of the picture completely, but may be moved to the side of the device, most likely near the headphone port.

Here's the original article: http://www.appletell.com/apple/comment/where-will-the-ipod-go/

To confirm this, check the name. It associates with my user name. I was seriously surprised as hell when I saw this.
 
I'm tired of we, the consumers, arguing on behalf of the manufacturer for withholding features.
Apple has made it's mark in the past by being the company with the products that delivered the features you want, not finding reasons to withhold features.

I think we'll see wifi on the top of the line video iPod.
Why? Internet Radio. Internet Video. People are willing to pay for sirius - this is apples chance to obliterate that entire market by adding 1 feature - wifi.

For them to then withhold email, messaging & browsing - just because they can would make the iPod a rather mute part of the ever evolving wireless home/office/school environment.

You also have to consider that a wifi iPod hardly competes with a phone that requires a $2000 contract to function. And lots of people have other phones they are fine with.

It's very simple™
 
What the hell is this stuff about the 'fat' Nano? It looks -really- bad. I highly doubt we'll see a nano revamp so soon, and I'm sure it'll be more tastefully done. After all, the "completely remastered" Nanos were released under a year ago, but Apple always does like to refresh things going into the holiday quarter in respect to their most consumer products (read: iPods, consumer iMacs and MacBooks).
 
iPod Touch Mockups

I found these in Flickr
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:)

Looks like my concepts and design predictions are on track to be correct :)
 

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Lol

The home button will prob be used for games and other applications. I don't see how they could have wifi on it, wifi = FCC approval, which is unlikely to happen before the end of september because the FCC would have leaked details by now.

Look on the back of any iPod thats out RIGHT NOW.... See that little FCC logo??? :rolleyes:
 
Wifi?

I'm tired of we, the consumers, arguing on behalf of the manufacturer for withholding features.
Apple has made it's mark in the past by being the company with the products that delivered the features you want, not finding reasons to withhold features.

I think we'll see wifi on the top of the line video iPod.
Why? Internet Radio. Internet Video. People are willing to pay for sirius - this is apples chance to obliterate that entire market by adding 1 feature - wifi.

For them to then withhold email, messaging & browsing - just because they can would make the iPod a rather mute part of the ever evolving wireless home/office/school environment.

You also have to consider that a wifi iPod hardly competes with a phone that requires a $2000 contract to function. And lots of people have other phones they are fine with.

It's very simple™

I agree. And why not add wifi and itunes to the iPod for wifi downloads directly to the iPod?
 
Tasty. I love my nano, but it's running out of space. I'd go for a fullscreen iPod. And if it could surf the web, even better.
 
:)

not bad at all...but I am thinking the home button may just be on the side and th unit may be all screen...also the lack of a button on the front leaves the room for powerful stereo speakers.

I would really like it if the new iPods have a small built in speaker like the iPhone. It's really nice for showing things to people without the headphones :D
 
PS - I know I just made some large generalisations there, but as such (generalisations), they are still true. I am not trying to say that all businesses in China are evil or bad or anything of the sort. I am sure there are many fine, honestly run operations and many moral upstanding citizens just like any other country.

It's important to note also that I am talking about Chinese business practices and the structure of Chinese law and society here, and *not* the Chinese as a people. I am not a racist, I have many Chinese friends and family members (although white myself), and this is not a racial issue. It's about how a country governs it's people and the law in that country only.

Paranoid much?
 
Lol

Here's What i think

iPod Shuffle
Flavors: Silver, Black, Light Green, Light Blue, Orange, and Cranberry/Wine Red(apart of Product Red)
Additions: None
Sizes: 1Gig($75) maybe a 2gig at 100(Probably Not)

iPod Nano:
Flavors: Silver, Black, Light Green, Light Blue, Orange, and Cranberry/Wine Red(Part of Product Red)
Additions: None
Sizes: 1Gig($100), 2Gig($125), 5Gig($175), 10Gig($225)

The All New iPod Mini:
Flavors: Silver, Black, Light Green, Light Blue, and Cranberry/Wine Red(Part of Product Red)
Additions: Video Playback
Sizes: 10Gig($225), 20Gig($275), 40Gig($325)

iPod Video
Flavors: White, Black, Silver
Additions: OS X, Some Wi-Fi Capabilities, Touch Screen
Sizes: 20Gig($300), 50Gig($375), 100Gig($450)

Is it just me... or do a lot of people in this thread not understand the way memory and storage come in certain increments?
2-4-8-16-32 etc. :rolleyes: That goes for hard drives too!
 
Apple has to clearly differentiate the new "iPod Touch" from the iPhone. The iPhone will be the AIO device, whereas the iPod will remain a PMP, albeit with some added features. Furthermore, because the iPhone represents "the best iPod to date," the "iPod Touch has to one-up it. Therefore:

iPod Touch:
4 inch 4:3 touchscreen (bigger than iPhone and also create a physical difference between the two devices.)
no wifi
possible bluetooth (remote for Front Row)
HDD, probably 100GB
would retain approximate dimensions of 5G ipod (as opposed to iPhone, which is taller and thinner)
tactile buttons for home and no-hands music navigation on side
OSX
$400- one model

iPod:

the leaked pictures represent the 6G iPod
aluminum
shorter
increased storage
video playback
revised os, probably not osx
250-350
iPod nano:

no major changes
increased storage
new colors?
new os, not osx
100-200
iPod shuffle:
no changes (only so much time in a keynote)
 
all i am hoping for is a big touchscreen....and wifi for surfing....that would make my day so much better to pull out my iPod and search the web real quick....i really hope they put this in there...im doubting though. but yeah. touchscreen or im NOT buying.
 
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