iPod touch iPod Touch Gen. 2

[mekopolis]

The touch is not an iPhone. They'll never put a camera on it as much as I would like it to, it would compromise iPhone sales.
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see i beg to differ

a camera would be nice, then touch owners could utilize some of the apps that use them
also a gps would be nice too, for the same reason

it may canabalize some iphone sales, but i am pretty sure people who are buying the iphone are buying it because it has a phone


and remember, Apple gets Money for every major update to the Touch software via the Sarbanes Oxly Act... [lets say they sold 1 million touches this year, times 30 bucks (20 for JSU and 10 for 2.), thats 30 million in revenue, assuming everyone updates of course

 

[txhockey9404]

**face palm**

you do realize that because it costs that much to make the iPod can't retail for $200. It needs to be about where it is in order to make a good profit. Or else Apple would bleed money from shipping, warranties, replacement parts, labor, retail stores, etc. but it was nice of you to attempt a little research.

I completely understand that the iPod touch's price has to stay where it is because it will begin to lose money for Apple if it was lowered. They are a company, and they live on profit.

I was just trying to point out that an iPhone is actually very close to the iPod touch in the amount of profit it brings in for Apple. Some people think that an iPhone is much more profitable than an iPod touch, but really, the iPhone includes about $100 of equipment that the iPod touch does not, justifying the iPhone's higher price point.

 

[macbattle]

Top it in '09 by adding a 5mp camera (for stills and video) that has 4x internal optical zoom AND a flash.

That flash better be xeon or at the leat quad led or it going to still be garbage.

 

[macbattle]

That wouldn't be obnoxious...

"What's that?"
--"Oh! This is just my iPod, radio, voice recorder, TV tuner, laptop, kitchen sink. What's that you got there?"
"My iRiver."
--"pfft. Sorry I asked"

DMB is pretty popular in Asia and now catching on in Europe and maybe even in the US. If it catches on here, it is a must for the ipod. Mobile tv anywhere you go via a simple antenna built in like many dmb devices.

 

[iMacmatician]

Top that in '12 by adding a time machine! :O

It's just a hop, skip, and a jump away.

How would it compromise iPhone sales? I didn't know people only bought an iPhone for the 2.0 MP camera it comes with. I thought the main feature that differentiates a phone with media capabilities from a PMP was the fact that a phone has PHONE features. It would be completely unrealistic to believe that an iPod Touch might get a microphone and small speakers for your ear as well as calling features or SMS.

Looks like I have to pull out my earlier argument.

If I wanted a phone, would I be looking at the iPod touch?

If I didn't want to pay $2000 or so for a contract that I didn't need, would I be looking at the iPhone?

Are the camera and speakers worth $2000? Good luck with the RDF on that one.

 

[touch-wannabe]

Unresponsively yours!

I was wondering about all the rumors of the new touch.
I want 2 no some realistic things that will prob happen

Let me suggest an unrealistic thing which probably won't happen (how's that for unresponsive?).

Why not split the difference between the touch and the iphone and a bring out a "data-touch" which comes bundled with data only access to a 3G network (not necessarily AT&T's). For all us misanthropes who would love access to the web where ever we are -- but don't really want to talk to anyone very often (or don't have anyone to talk to), it would be a godsend! A data only subscription should be considerably cheaper than a full voice / data plan so the packaged 2 year price of the device would be a lot less than the iphone -- though a lot more than the touch without access to any network.

For Apple it means they could negotiate a deal with another wireless carrier without breaking their committment to AT&T and they could probably get a subsidy for the hardware from the winning network (just like with the iPhone). For those who don't want the data subscription the new device should be sold liberated and unsubsidized so people who are content with access to WIFI only would stay happy.

Misanthropes of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your isolation!

 

[macbattle]

moment you add 3G(or even 2.5g) to a device that has no cell capabilities the cell company is potentially loosing money they could be making off you when you also get their cell service. In turn a company like Skype will benefit as they offer phone service at a competitive price. This is all under the assumption the device has either a speaker and mic, a wired speaker mic headset option or bt headset ability.

 

[musok]

Ok, here is my statement.
For those who say there won't be an ipod touch on the next keynote... i don't believe that... some of the stores are already making new prices and since they have to do something with the other two ipods and since they've remade iphone already and are about to launch the new computers too... it lacks ipod touch! ipod touch will suffer anything.
Steve Jobs has to do a something different. All of we know that everytime he launches anything it has something to make us just go
So... there will be difference!
Where? From common sense i may say it will launch gps, gps is like a simple chip, for them, it won't cost much and since they sell a lot of iphones/ipods they must have a standard logical board to get more profit! So, for me they will take the iphone's logical board... it wont have 3g of course because then they could have phone and iphones would lose but more certain... gps chip! that i think it will really have.
Other thing about... camera! Since they will use (on my sense, not a fact) the same logical board... they won't lose much on the camera! I think that that won't affect the iphone. Iphone will always be more expensive and then other thing... people buy iphone so they don't have to carry a lot of stuff on pockets. So the difference should be on 3g and GSM, camera won't affect! There must be a low price choice for the people! Camera is a positive point!
Apple always redesign their stuff... so... maybe a simple one but... there will be, maybe a reduction of size! not much but some so they can present more stuff on the keynote
I think these are the changes! Please refute if you think i'm wrong.

 

[Dred242]

The Amazon Kindle connects to a CDMA Wireless network to download content from the Kindle Store which includes books, U.S. and international newspapers, blogs, and more.

...from Amazon:
"Unlike WiFi, Kindle utilizes the same high-speed data network (EVDO) as advanced cell phones—so you never have to locate a hotspot."

"No monthly wireless bills, service plans, or commitments—we take care of the wireless delivery so you can simply click, buy, and read."

Ok, so to hell with the books...eh? Do you think Apple could use the same "Kindle type of technology" to give iPod Touch owners another way of accessing the web without being shackled to wifi? And I'm only talking about basic web browsing, the use of location based apps, chat, and Google Maps...remember Touch owners don't want a phone.

I guess my point is that if Amazon can offer up access for Kindle owners, maybe Apple could do the same, eh?

**Would you be willing to continue to pay $299, $399, and $499 for the iPod Touch if in addition to wifi it had EDGE or some "wicked Kindle CDMA mojo"?

**Would you be willing to pay Apple some kind of a nominal monthly fee to break free of wifi and and take your Touch into the wild?

**Do you think the cell phone carriers would yell "WTF", and sue to stop Apple from accessing the networks?

 

[touch-wannabe]

I wrote the original "misanthrope" post proposing the data only 3G subscription. But Macbattle has a good point. Once you give a general purpose data subscription to a 3G network a 3rd party (like Skype) can always convert that to a voice connection. Therefore Apple and the 3G network owner provide the connection and Skype walks off with part of the loot!

Do I have your point right Macbattle?

 

[macbattle]

Ok, so to hell with the books...eh? Do you think Apple could use the same "Kindle type of technology" to give iPod Touch owners another way of accessing the web without being shackled to wifi? And I'm only talking about basic web browsing, the use of location based apps, chat, and Google Maps...remember Touch owners don't want a phone.

I guess my point is that if Amazon can offer up access for Kindle owners, maybe Apple could do the same, eh?

**Would you be willing to continue to pay $299, $399, and $499 for the iPod Touch if in addition to wifi it had EDGE or some "wicked Kindle CDMA mojo"?

**Do you think the cell phone carriers would yell "WTF", and sue to stop Apple from accessing the networks?

Read my post above.

 

[musok]

they won't give GSM capabilities to the ipod touch on the capabilities there are stuff like photo, 3g or even edge because if they get that on ipod touch, the phone operators that bought iphone would be really pissed off...

 

[dasikes]

they won't give GSM capabilities to the ipod touch on the capabilities there are stuff like photo, 3g or even edge because if they get that on ipod touch, the phone operators that bought iphone would be really pissed off...

This is somewhat true. Apple (like any company) is not primarily concerned about customers - they have more to please than just the consumer.