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So do I have to eat the 10% return fee at the Apple store if I take this back? I was trying to watch BSG episodes last night and the shimmer was driving me absolutely nuts :(

To answer my own question, it would seem so.

I decided after hearing that a newer Touch was in stores that corrected the problem I would exchange mine. The Apple employee however argued with me for 15 minutes, stating that he would not accept an exchange based on "RAMPANT INTERNET SPECULATION" for a problem that "Apple does not officially recognize" and said that the exchange would incur a 10% restocking fee.

I continued to argue the issue, pointing out that there was also dust particles under the glass and dead pixels (I was fine with these, as they were unnoticeable while watching fullscreen video) but coupled with the faulty display I could not accept this as a non-faulty device. More arguing ensued and I had to raise my voice just to get him to agree to a replacement. It was embarrassing the lengths I had to go through to get a device I was happy with. I would have been in and out of a Best Buy with a brand new device in 5 minutes.

Oh, and to the said employee in the Dallas Apple store who assured me that I would be just as unhappy with the exchange because the screens were identical, the new ipod screen looks great. No negative Blacks, dust, or dead pixels. Next time I'll just go to Best Buy.
 
I think it's the same everywhere. You get good staff, and bad staff. Those who are happy to help, and those who are looking for a fight.

However you also get good customers and bad customers.

My tactic would usually be:

a) Start off as friendly and polite as possible, explaining the problem, why it matters to you (watch a lot of dark movies or whatever), and ask if anything can be done. We all know about consumer rights etc, but remaining polite at this stage (and keeping such threats out of it) often gets things resolved fairly quickly as it puts the staff at their ease. Even smile, charm, and drop in small talk - it all helps to do this. Going in guns blazing is a 50/50 job, because then you're triggering their "fight or flight" instinct which means you'll get either a never-ending argument with the employee standing his ground until security come, or an instant refund, respectively. Alternatively, the "flight" could be towards a supervisor, starting the 50/50 process all over again. Too much of a risk IMO.

b) If that fails, remaining friendly and polite (geniune, not sarcastic), re-state exactly the same thing. "Well, the thing is I really do watch a lot of dark movies and I'm really not sure this screen is up to par. I've seen others which don't have this problem. Are you sure there's nothing you can do to help?".

c) Prove it - get them to put theirs and yours side by side with the same video (keep a copy on CD), or borrow a friend's good one, and test it in an environment where the problem will show up. Then re-state the case again.

d) If this still fails, ask - nicely if possible - for the supervisor/manager (better hope you have proof at this point, as supervisors tend to go more "by the book"). Start roughly from "a", being kind and polite etc.

e) If he too is awkward, now's the time to start mentioning consumer rights, that a product should be fit for the purpose for which it was advertised etc etc.

f) Still no luck? Ask for the complaints procedure. Put in a polite but firm complaint, sit back and wait.

g) If you can be bothered, now's the time to start threatening then going ahead with court action. Sure you could suck up the 10% for the sake of a peaceful life, but that's what the retailer is relying on... depends on the price of your principles. (Admittedly, I'd probably give up and suck up the 10% at this point and refuse to deal with them again, but I doubt it'd come to this).

NEVER mention that you heard about the problem on an internet forum. That's just asking for trouble. The internet is generally not seen as a reliable source, especially forums, so that'll usually earn an immediate dismissal of the problem EVEN IF they've admitted it elsewhere. Also you could be seen as only raising an issue because someone else told you there's one etc. As far as they're concerned you should have discovered the problem yourself, and possibly have a friend with the same issue or a more reputable printed news article or something which you discovered afterwards. It's "I happened to notice this problem", not "I heard about this problem on the internet and I think mine might be affected"

Good luck to those returning! Hoping I get a decent one first time :eek:
 
Ipod Touch Exchanged Today!

I got my 16gb Ipod Touch on the 14th and happened to get one with the black screen issue (Week 37). It was terrible to watch any video that had a dark scene in it. I called Apple Care and they told me I had two options 1.) Send Ipod in for a week to be repaired 2.) Make an Appt. at the Genius Bar at the Apple Store where I purchased it from and they would exchange it. I made my first appointment for last Friday. I showed the Genius one photo of the Jay-Z Black Album and he was surprised at how bad the screen was. He went to the back to grab a new one to exchange, but they were all sold out. They said they would put one a hold and call me the next time that the 16gb came in. Apple called on Monday morning said they had one on hold and to setup another appointment at the Genius bar. Today, I brought in my original Touch and they exchanged it with no problems in just a few minutes. The new one that I got is a week 38, and has absolutely no problems with the screen. In fact the black detail is very impressive. I think it looks even better than my brothers Iphone when playing the same videos. My advice to anyone with the black screen problem is to call Apple Care before going in to the store so at least you have a case number to reference and it seems more legitimate that you have done some trouble shooting.
 
call Apple Care before going in to the store so at least you have a case number to reference and it seems more legitimate that you have done some trouble shooting.

Good point. Shows that you've made some effort already. Add that to my little list above :)
 
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