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Just a question for you long time Apple fan(boys ;)) out there (I'm a new Apple fan(boy) :)):

I will be home in a bigger city (aka near an Apple Store) on the 28th, and I'd prefer to go to the store to pick it up. General speaking, for a product rollout like this will Apple have the stores stocked at the same time the iPod Touches ship, and will the iPod touches be plenteful enough for me to purchase one without worrying about it?


edit: I mean, the iPhone was even bigger as far as hype goes I'd say, and they had plenty of phones in most cases.
 
I don't need every single tune I own in my pocket, just a thousand or so of my favorites.

It isn't simply about having all your songs in your pocket. For me the issue is about having to manage them. If the device is big enough to hold all my music, I don't have the hassle of manually managing them.

I'm guessing the reason they do not have a hard drive version is because of battery life issues. How would one watch a movie if the battery can't last that long. Perhaps it can't even handle a 42 minute (1hr) television show with a drive installed. Perhaps the answer is to install enough memory that can be preloaded with large chunks of content so you limit access to the power hungry drive.

By not having at least one hard drive version of the iPod Touch, Apple will be loosing sales. Many people will be saying thanks, but not thanks Apple.
 
I don't like the fact that you can buy a 16GB in the US for the same price that we pay for 8GB, but that's life.

iPod Touch here I come! :D
 
Woo-hoo!!!

Love the new ipod-touch!

er....one little problem - the price!

Jesus! I dont know about u U.S. guys - but not all us brits have money flowing like water!

£260 for 16gb is outreagous! £16.25 a GB!!!!

Apple live in coo-coo land! Honestly!

And what's the point of buying this product - when the iphone is released it will have all the same features + the phone - ummm let me see - spend £260 or wait for the iphone to come out on contract?

This is what im mulling over.

Spend £269 and get a free phone with 3G from my carrier with my £30 tariff intact for £629 or keep the money towards an iPhone which wont be free, no 3G, half the storage and probably will cost £299-399 or something...combined with the fact that you'd probably still have to change tariffs to include data plan making £299-399 + £35/40 a month for 12 months. Making it up to £879 for the converging of both devices

Dunno...
 
Wow...For the fist time ever, I'm a little disappointed with Apple. I really can't believe that they thought it was a good idea to release this with only 16gigs of space. Terrible idea. Ditch the flash memory already! I was ready to go out and buy an 80gig iPod touch today...Not anymore. I think most will agree that this should have a hard drive with at LEAST 80gigs of space...Since when does Apple come out with new products that have less space than the previous model???
 
I have a 3G 40GB ipod. It holds every single song I own. I'm supposed to DOWNGRADE to 16GB, not have all my music with me so i can watch a couple of movies?

This is just horrible.

THIS is the deal breaker.

Sure others might complain about lack of this or that, but they would still buy it. But this complete lack of capacity will keep a majority of ipod users from buying it. Stick an 80GB drive in the back, make it twice as thick, it's still no thicker than my 3G ipod. Then we'll buy it, no complaints.


no, you're supposed to "downgrade" so you can browse the web, watch youtube videos, check your email, etc.
 
Well the entire market is down today by quite a bit and I'm checking all of my stocks and they all dropped around the same time the market did which is the same time that Apple started its plunge so I think its more of a US economy sucking rather than market reaction to the announcements today.

Oh yeah, when you compare the Apple chart to the NASDAQ composite, they look the *exact* same:

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Hmmm, now that I take a closer look, it seems like the NASDAQ was down all morning while Apple *tanked* right during and after the keynote...

In fact, if the NASDAQ showed any further weakness around 1:00pm EST, it was probably due to Apple being a part of the composite!
 
I don't know about that... if the iPhone was bumped up to 16GB, it would be the same storage as the iPod Touch and I don't see them dropping the price of that before the holidays.

Not to mention the $200 drop is more than enough to carry iPhone sales through Christmas.

I don't think we'll see any changes to the iPod lineup until Macworld at the earliest, and I don't think I'm going out on much of a limb by saying so...

I'd agree with this, but I have a friend who owns an AT&T authorized dealership. He was told in July by AT&T corporate that a new iPhone model would be available by November which will correlate with AT&T dropping their corporate exclusiveness for iPhone sales. Take it for what it's worth, which probably isn't much. Perhaps some factors in between now and then have changed the situation and Apple's decisions. Still makes sense that AT&T authorized resellers are going to get into the mix before the year's up.
 
awesome! thank you apple! this is exactly the ipod that I want! I just finished placing my order on a 8GB model. Lucky number 8 :D
 
Good thing I held off....I'll be getting that 16gig ipodtouch. I don't listen to all of my music everyday anyway and I barely do the movie thing....the wifi is a plus.


Those nanos are suspect......don't look too hot...guess I gotta see it in person.



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Glass? I doubt it.

Two questions:

1. Will it have scratch-proof optical glass like the iPhone?
I'm afraid it's not glass. Why? Because Steve didn't mention it. Like he didn't mention the special effects missing from iMovie '08, the modem missing on the MacBooks etc. If it's glass he would deffinately have mentioned it as 1 of the highlights. Wonder if the iPhone still has glass after this price drop.
 
But this complete lack of capacity will keep a majority of ipod users from buying it.

The majority of the market IS ALREADY BUYING FLASH PLAYERS (Nano and Shuffle).

I think this is one of the main reasons why Apple went with flash memory with the Touch- most consumers seems to prefer the advantages of flash memory, vs. the higher capacity of HD.
 
Oh yeah, when you compare the Apple chart to the NASDAQ composite, they look the *exact* same:

http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/b?s=AAPL

http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/b?s=^IXIC

Hmmm, now that I take a closer look, it seems like the NASDAQ was down all morning while Apple *tanked* right during and after the keynote...

In fact, if the NASDAQ showed any further weakness around 1:00pm EST, it was probably due to Apple being a part of the composite!


if you keep your eyes on stock markets, Apple's stocks always plunge right after Steve's keynotes. it's just that it plunged more today due to pricecut of iPhone.....less profit to be made.
 
I've been using a Nano for a few years now and it doesn't bother me only having 4GB of space. I have a playlist that randomly generates depending on my ratings and I find it gives me a pretty good collection of music every time i Sync my iPod. The playlist also makes sure I don't get music that I just listened to. I guess it'd be nice having my entire music collection on there, but it's not too big of a deal having only 16 GB in an iPod touch.

It's only a matter of time until 80 GB of flash memory is as cheap as 16 GB...
 
It isn't simply about having all your songs in your pocket. For me the issue is about having to manage them. If the device is big enough to hold all my music, I don't have the hassle of manually managing them.

I'm guessing the reason they do not have a hard drive version is because of battery life issues. How would one watch a movie if the battery can't last that long. Perhaps it can't even handle a 42 minute (1hr) television show with a drive installed. Perhaps the answer is to install enough memory that can be preloaded with large chunks of content so you limit access to the power hungry drive.

By not having at least one hard drive version of the iPod Touch, Apple will be loosing sales. Many people will be saying thanks, but not thanks Apple.

Apple is looking to improve the quality of their new products, plain and simple. These issues certainly play into it, but with a long wait between new iPod lineups, why would they go backward when they could maintain the HDD players with higher capacities and still offer innovative NEW products with better design and usability?

For me, there probably won't be an iPod that can hold my music collection until 2010 or later. I have 74,000 songs. Almost 900 GB of music. I have another TB of DVD's and TV shows. As people move into the digital age, capacity will probably never reach the library size of the largest collectors. Perhaps it will, but for me the iPod has always been smaller than my digital music collection, so space is hardly an important purchasing factor.
 
.....still waiting for someone to bitch about not having a matte screen option....

I've been rocking my 3rd generation 20 GB ipod for years (thanks to ipod sock, not a single scratch on it), waiting for it to die so I can buy a new worth the update. This is definitely worth the update. I lose some space, but oh well. I'll have to cut my 2500 song down to 1500. I'll just make a bunch of sweet, short playlists.
 
It isn't simply about having all your songs in your pocket. For me the issue is about having to manage them. If the device is big enough to hold all my music, I don't have the hassle of manually managing them.

Create smart playlists. Sync those instead of your whole library.
 
Great iPod touch, but not what we need:

- We need FireWire.
- We need a similar device but with full Mac OS X features.
- We need a true handheld computer.

And we need thousands.
 
Regarding the stock price

I owned Apple stock for a few years. Apple stock almost always rises in anticipation of a new announcement, then drops after the announcement is made.

'Buy on the rumor, sell on the news' is a common occurrence in the stock market.
 
Anyone have a guesstimate what the actual storage capacity (vs. formatted) will be? I have ~14.6 gb of music so there is a tiny chance I could stuff everything onto a 16gb IPT but I wouldn't want to drop that kind of cash unless I knew everything would fit.
 
Sorry it still just boggles my mind. Did everyone go get a cup of coffee when he talked about iPod Classic?

You have a choice, big capacity or internet and touch. If they would have included a HDD and a battery to support it you would all be moaning about how BIG it is. "Thats not an iPod, its sooooo BIG!!!"

Do you want a pda or hold every song you own. That is what you run with.
 
I had my credit card in hand ready to buy at any price, until the capacity was announced. I'm approaching the limit on the 3G 40GB I have and have been waiting out every minor update they've made. The features in itself are tremendous but this model only serves to make the "Classic" line look even more outdated. Almost every MP3 player on the market is moving to a widescreen format. Video is pointless on the iPod Classic with the screen size it had and still has.

All I wanted was a 60GB iPod with color widescreen. The least they could have done was add a 16:9 screen to the Classic by making the click wheel smaller. An inch thick? Fine by me. Right now they have a product that has it all, except capacity for music fans, and a device which can accommodate music fans but keeps video a novelty.

The digital future is having everything in your hand when you need it, to use wherever you need it. Apple have the right idea, but fell short on execution in the primary area.

Kind of like Microsoft did by shipping a high definition video playback machine with a 20GB hard drive. :rolleyes:
 
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