iPod Video Photo

[Papercut]

The Chinese means "this side"

It is simplified which means this is from mainland China. Sorry if this was already posted.
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[revfife]

Yeah except ones black and ones white

BTW...

It's a fake, no way Jobs lets a photo stay up this long if its real. Flickr would have taken it down already.

 

[Pistol Pete]

It's an ancient Chinese proverb which translates roughly as 'Book of Power 5G, Tuesday next'.

haha nice one...

 

[DayLightPix]

Fake Fake Fake

As a professional photographer, I can say it's definitely a fake. It's a good fake though.

How can I tell?

If you zoom in to the upper left corner, you'll see a sharp edge of a rectangle. On the upper right corner, you can see where the pated area didn't exatctly match.

I would buy one though.

 

[Pistol Pete]

Yeah except ones black and ones white

BTW...

It's a fake, no way Jobs lets a photo stay up this long if its real. Flickr would have taken it down already.

amen

 

[Coheebuzz]

Were there any cloning artifacts on the iPod itself? I think thats what matters.

Yes there are, the whole bottom area of the iPod from left to right appears to be abit messy. Also maybe the designer focused on the important parts and rushed a bit through the rest.
And again - they could be JPEG artifacts and nothing more but what if they are not??

 

[jwbrickner]

Lamesauce

Real or not it would totally suck for apple to come out with a new iPod now. The newest ipods are barely even old. The iPod "Invisa" skit from SNL is becoming more and more realistic! It almost makes me not want to ever buy an iPod again because 4 months after I have its outdated. Apple shouldn't be so trigger happy with new products.

I believe Apple will release this as a intermediary between a media center Mac Mini and the iPod. Maybe it will even double as a fancy remote control for the media center. I would love to record my favorite tv shows on my Mac Mini and take them on a nice widescreen player. I definitely think it is ridiculous to release this as the "new iPod" we already have new iPods.

If its real it will definitely be a new class of Apple products.

 

[nagromme]

How it could be faked

Just to stir an enjoyable pot (I don't believe this, I merely consider it possible), the photo could have been faked, light effects and all, in the following way:

* Camera mounted in a fixed place.

* Two shots of a 5G taken--one with the screen on the left (and 3rd-party dock connector) and one with the screen on the right (and barcode sticker).

* Two different halves of the user-maded test image, one showing in each shot (and one shot flipped).

* Composite the two photos. Clone the remaining middle strip out, OR take a third shot with the screen in the middle of the view and the middle of the pattern loaded on the screen.

There. Presented for your contemplation. (Now someone can compare the top and side margins with a 5G )

Re the bottom edge being white and not silver: it's not a glitch nor is it a removal tab, it's just that the "silver" effect is the clear thickness of the plastic--and on the near edge, what that plastic "sees through to" is different.

 

[lars steenhoff]

compressing to jpeg could introduce all kind of artifacts. even hard lines and edges.

 

[maya]

anyone else see the resemblance look at the cord. Same position same shape.. I think it maybe the ACER without the ACER case on it

If you carefully look at the Acer and Apple cord you will see that the Acer has a "single" cord while the Apple has a "twin" cord. Resembles more of a power cord, with data sync.

Apple likes this all in one cord idea, with the simplicity in mind.

 

[Peace]

Man! I haven't seen something like a bar code disected or a letter/number taken apart in a long,long time....

If it's fake it should be real judging by all the comotion surrounding one little photo...

I say it's either real or fake!

 

[StealthRider]

Can someone who has the "One More Thing" event video handy find and post a picture of the cable coming out of the demo iPod?

 

[(L)]

#1 I never said it could be a tablet. We just don't know how big is it. Could be comparable to 5th gen iPods or it could be a good deal larger. It might even be a little smaller (although unlikely).

#2 Have you ever tried learning to write in chinese? My father did. He worked for 9 months in China as supervisor and he learned speaking and writing in chinese to deal with the local workers. While he is good enough to explain himself in chinese, getting a fluent handwriting is another matter entirely if you wrote occidental characters since you were born.

#1)I know YOU didn't say it was a tablet, but others did.

#2)I'm Japanese. Lol. If your father was good enough to explain himself in Chinese, as you say, and he was in a higher position than "this-side-up labler," then he could have said, hey you, label that thing which side goes up. I don't need to be lectured on how hard learning a language is - my point is that it's copied off of a computer font. Even if you were just learning the language, you could copy a handwritten real one, and most likely you can recognize when the thing on the screen doesn't match handwriting. Stop and think a minute...you are trying to tell me that a chinese-illiterate engineer finds it necessary that he PERSONALLY label which direction to plug cables in because you don't think Chinese are smart enough to either plug it in right or to write their own labels? Not only is that farfetched, that's insulting to the Chinese.

 

[ChrisH3677]

Reall but fake?

I'm starting to think this might be a real unit, but not necessearily an iPod.

Why:
- The cyan color in particular is visible thru the sticker (altho they could have put a slight transparency on the sticker layer if it's a fake and is it visible enough? When I put white cardboard in front of my ipod screen it's still very bright)

Why not:
- Why cover up the connect nless it has a logo from another brand on it?
- Why doesn't the front of the unit have a silver edge like the rest?
- Why was it so important to blackout the date?

 

[jwbrickner]

Scan the barcode?

Just a thought what is someone printed off the picture and scanned the barcode? this would tell us if it is a B or an 8 . I have scanners ay work perhaps i will try this tommorrow!

 

[revfife]

However,

If it was real (not possible), and had wireless, bluetooth, pda functionality, video, photos, and music...

I would sell my Axim x50v and iPod Photo 30gb in a heartbeat to get one

 

[(L)]

It is simplified which means this is from mainland China. Sorry if this was already posted.
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For the last time, it either means "this side up" or "here", expert opinion needed for the final word on either. sure as hell doesn't mean "this side", which is useless.

 

[nagromme]

As a professional photographer, I can say it's definitely a fake. It's a good fake though.

How can I tell?

If you zoom in to the upper left corner, you'll see a sharp edge of a rectangle. On the upper right corner, you can see where the pated area didn't exatctly match.

Those kinds of sharp edges are to be found in any low-quality JPEG. (They are NOT to be expected to result from an intentionally blurred fake though--blur would typically be global.)

A useful exercise to try: use Google images find ANY JPEG photo of anything. Look really close for things that seem too perfect, or not perfect enough, or lined up oddly, or lit in a way you can't figure out... You'll ALWAYS be able to find something "suspicious." The trick is to find flaws that CANNOT happen by chance or compression. (And I've seen no such flaws mentioned in this image.) A variation: send any old photo to a friend and tell them it's a fake, and challenge them to find the things that prove it's a fake. They'll find something Especially if the JPEG compression is severe.

An example is the bottom edge of today's iPod photo. People worry that it's different... but real life CAN make it different. (In fact, hold a 5G iPod different ways on different backgrounds and you'll see that the thick clear layer on an iPod can do lots of things.)

(I agree that the Chinese-by-a-non-Chinese-speaker is the most suspicious thing. But we don't know what led up to that photo so I still see no actual proof either way. I'm thinking about various convincing "proof" that last year's 5G image was a fake--when it was real.)

It almost makes me not want to ever buy an iPod again because 4 months after I have its outdated. Apple shouldn't be so trigger happy with new products.

Never believe that any product comes with a promise that nothing better is coming.

And never forget that no matter what does or does not come, it doesn't make what you bought any different.

It's vital to Apple not sit on new technology for fear of "innovating too much." Their competitors don't sit on products that are ready, not if the market is there for them.

 

[lars steenhoff]

- Why was it so important to blackout the date?

because it would show 28/2/2006
it's a picture from the future..

I hope it's real.

 

[(L)]

Er,

Deaf-in-it-lee.

What you have sounded out would be spelt Defanately.

Flames burning higher and higher.....

Lol I'm not sounding it out, i'm just playing around with it. the NATE just jumps out at me. Besides, you are picking me apart for how I pick apart a common spelling error? What, are you with mispellers international? Lol just playing man.

 

[mlochm]

yup it is indicative of being a real product.

This could be real- Who knows- It would be smart for apple to do this as the poster above so elegantly points out- I think it would be neat if the big screen apple tv/computer came out next week and these little iPod thingy's came out as a one more thing (capable of being plugged right into the TV/Computer.) And then the speculated apple boombox could actually be a sound system for the television. Then broadcast would be changed forever. (that would be a good thing.) I mean since we can only speculate I thought I would just go all out...

 

[(L)]

What's the chance that Tuesday won't even hold a new iPod?

 

[shrimpdesign]

I agree with you on #1 but that's not proof. Number two is not because of the surface or the size, but because it's computer font copied (see earlier post on page 9). Also, the word is definitely, not definately, as I've warned in a previous post.

Yeah, but it wasn't meant as "proof" I was analizing the pros and cons ... basically, things that make me think this is/isn't real.

 

[Electro Funk]

That's a variation on a standard video test signal. The top is a tonal scale (displays contrast from black to white), the bottom is a color scale.

This pattern is absolutely something that would be run through the screen at the last stage of production (Quality Control), right before the item is packaged in a dandy spankin new Apple Video iPod box.

you are absolutely right... those color bars are also used to correctly calibrate the "color temperature" of the display for optimum color... same pattern, plus many others to properly calibrate my 46" samsung dlp

 

[(L)]

Yeah, but it wasn't meant as "proof" I was analizing the pros and cons ... basically, things that make me think this is/isn't real.

I know I know, it's just that there are many "weird" points that could be real (again, I'm no expert at photosnot) but the fake Chinese, in my opinion and as has not been effectively countered, is a good disproof.