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iQuit said:
Some person with a 5G iPod and a little time has just stirred up a lot of controversy. The cord is fake, the LCD is fake, and the iPod is a edited 5G iPod. The barcode is used too. my 0.2$

It's fake, you're fake, I'm fake, everything's fake! As someone else just said, if this IS a fake it's a very good one. Most, if not all, the reasons people are giving for it being fake are very flimsy reasons indeed.
 
Revlimit Punk said:
I think it's the real thing.

Some considerations:

1)There is not a single familiar object in the picture (the connector might be a new one made just for this new kind of iPod) so we can't state how big it really is. We can just take as a fact that the screen proportions are 16:10.

2)Chinese characters might be written that way because the guy who wrote it was not chinese, yes, but as far as i know, there aren't only chinese people in china. Might have been an engineer from the U.S. sent by apple to guide/instruct/watch over local workers.

3)The pattern visualized on the screen has not to conform to any particular standard used for either tvs or monitor testing. Apple is free to put whatever it wants in its iPod to test the capabilities of the screen.

4)I believe the "test" screen pattern is stored in the firmware and not streamed through the cable. The purpose of the cable might just be to provide power to the iPod when the picture was taken.

5)I agree that it looks more like a "B" than an "8".

6)I assume the Apple logo is on the back, just like every other iPod of every kind and generation.

7)It looks like an iPod, so if this is real, the product name will likely be still "iPod". And i don't know how this might be so surprising.
The product in question (if real) fits even more it's name than the previous generations. The iPod is clearly shaping up to become the one and only platform for your "digital lifestyle on the go". A new interface that looks and acts like Front Row seems a good guess to me.


I keep wondering if the connector might now support HDMI/HDCP...maybe thats the reason for two cables...
 

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Revlimit Punk said:
I think it's the real thing.

Some considerations:

1)There is not a single familiar object in the picture (the connector might be a new one made just for this new kind of iPod) so we can't state how big it really is. We can just take as a fact that the screen proportions are 16:10.

2)Chinese characters might be written that way because the guy who wrote it was not chinese, yes, but as far as i know, there aren't only chinese people in china. Might have been an engineer from the U.S. sent by apple to guide/instruct/watch over local workers.

Uhh, on #1, cables are not all of the same size, but you could say whether or not it is tablet-sized, which it ain't. On #2, that's wishful thinking. Who sends some Chinese-illiterate engineer that not only supervises but takes an active role in labeling stuff? This reminds me of another major point - the Chinese are plenty bright; they can figure out how to plug in a stupid cord. You don't need an engineer to tell them which way it goes in, unless of course you wan't to believe this is real.
 
R.Youden said:
Can anyone here speak Japanese? Do they know what it says on the connector?

Probably, ha-ha you suckers!

I work with Japanesse and chineese guys at work who said it is chineese for "here"

Not sure what it might be there for?
 
boncellis said:
I hope it will be. The craziness that flies around and the convergence of different perspectives that accumulates after enough posts speaks to my soul as a designer. I love when things are so up in the air that it seems like anything could be real. I think it distills the viable from the pipe dreams.

Agreed :)

And well said i might add...
 
Apple-Alt-Ctr said:
It's fake, you're fake, I'm fake, everything's fake! As someone else just said, if this IS a fake it's a very good one. Most, if not all, the reasons people are giving for it being fake are very flimsy reasons indeed.

Yes, I think you could attribute most of the anomalies to the poor quality original image and to the high level of jpeg compression. Also, the "eMac calibrated" note in the info of the image I would assume is the colorsync profile embedded in the file after it was edited (to scribble out the date, or whatever it is). Just my thoughts...

This is fun! :rolleyes:
 
millypede said:
Ahh thats what 18 hours of been awake does to you, things become a blur... I stand corrected.

Sorry, of course the person asking the question in the first place is the one that's supposed to hunt for it.
 
Boingy said:
It seems like the barcodes should match at every section but the first, unless I misunderstand how the barcodes work. Isn't it like an alphabet except it's all but impossible for people to read? If that's the case there is something wrong with one of the barcodes.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

~V

A barcode is simply a (graphical) binary representation of numbers/letters with a checksum built in.
 
So I've read this whole thread.

I'll sum up the major pros and cons, so to speak:

Pros:
1. it has a perfect 6:10 radio like Apple's displays, which is great because Apple wouldn't release a widescreen iPod without widescreen content, so making it between 4:3 and 16:9 makes it a good device for watching both. With rumors of downloadable movies from iTMS on 2/28, this seems probable.
2. it has realistic lighting and refraction, such as the LCD visible through the sticker and along the inside edge around the LCD.
3. I really want one.

Cons:
1. the serial number is dangerously close to Mac OS X server. What are the chances that they have an hardware product with only one charecter difference from a OS product? It's a little shady.
2. the chinese charecters written aren't written well. This may be because of the small size, and the surface it was written on, but it's definately not a pro.
3. the LCD calibration image shown. Why not an image of it's OS? Although it has been reported on this thread that there are similar images in the diagnostics of the 5G iPod.
 
jtaylr77 said:
I work with Japanesse and chineese guys at work who said it is chineese for "here"

Not sure what it might be there for?

yeah, that's what i was wondering in an earlier post, whether or not the dashboard widget was right on that one. If it is right, as you say, and the word is "here," that would prove it's a fake, since a hoaxer would type in "this side up" and get the word more likely translated "here". We need better translators, lol.
 
Dunno if anyone mentioned this before, but look at the plastic covering the 5G and this device.

The plastic is clear and well-formed around the 5G device, but this one has a different kind of plastic, and a worse seal. One that I have seen before:

Glad Press-n-seal, as a matter of fact. If you have some in the kitchen, take a look at it.

http://tst.glad.com/pressnseal/about.html
 
Either way

Fake or real.
'B' or '8'

Either way, if they ever release anything like this, I'm buying. I dont even care what it does. With a screen like that, it will be one fun toy. Definately 'fun'
 
shrimpdesign said:
So I've read this whole thread.

Cons:
1. the serial number is dangerously close to Mac OS X server. What are the chances that they have an hardware product with only one charecter difference from a OS product? It's a little shady.
2. the chinese charecters written aren't written well. This may be because of the small size, and the surface it was written on, but it's definately not a pro.

I agree with you on #1 but that's not proof. Number two is not because of the surface or the size, but because it's computer font copied (see earlier post on page 9). Also, the word is definitely, not definately, as I've warned in a previous post.

TMA said:
Regarding the unnatural chinese handwriting...

My handwriting looks pretty messed up when I try to write on a plastic surface, in a a tiny area, with a fat tipped marker pen. I'm sure people could even say it looks forced or that it could have been written by a child or non-native english writer

Again, it's not "unnatural." It's perfectly natural computer font copying. The strokes don't morph because you've got a different pen.
 
Boardslippy said:
I'm starting to take things back, i thought id have a look in photoshop changing contrasts etc, found what looks to be a badly lined up crop, what you think

Yours is the only post that seems to back up that this is a fake with fact rather than something someone heard in a Disney cartoon.
 
I've been told that Apple has shown prototypes similar to this to a couple prospective partners nearly a year ago, as a "this is an idea we're working on but not ready to productize" sort of thing. It's possible that this is a photo of one of those prototypes, so it may be similar but not identical to what will actually ship. (I was told this by someone who'd likely know, although I think it's best to be frustratingly vague.)

I know I'd at least hold off on any near-term iPod purchases until next week...
 
whether its fake or not its a good fake or a poor photo, something nice is on the way cant wait till tuesday, bank balance may take a tumble... seems strange that Acer sudenly announed that player tho... hmmm :rolleyes:
 
Apple-Alt-Ctr said:
Yours is the only post that seems to back up that this is a fake with fact rather than something someone heard in a Disney cartoon.

I swear, I've never heard of Chinese-illiterate engineers writing labels to guide Chines workers to plug in cables right using handwriting blatanlty copied from computer font, from a Disney cartoon or elsewhere. Fact: it is extremely improbable that the label should be written in computer font Chinese with errors (and possibly meaning only "here") -> no post on this forum has been able to argue it is legitimate.
 
I'm just going to say thats real. Either Apple or some other company. Perhaps it could be a headrest TV thing?
 
VanMac said:
Fake or real.
'B' or '8'

Either way, if they ever release anything like this, I'm buying. I dont even care what it does. With a screen like that, it will be one fun toy. Definately 'fun'

The word is D E F I N I T E L Y. I am now bald from pulling my hair out. Deaf-a-nate-lee. Lol.
 
rogueimage said:
A laptop's screen is black when it's off because the backlight is also off.

Most interface and web design experts agree that while black-on-white and white-on-black are close in legibility, for large portions of text, black-on-white is easier to read for most people. That's why it's the default for computers. Universal Access gives you the option to change it for the minority of people who read better the other way.

see, e.g., http://coe.sdsu.edu/eet/articles/wptdguide/index.htm

I appreciate your effort but not sure I trust the opinions of someone writing an article about on-screen legibility who choses a serif typeface!!

Try using white text on black for a while. It's much easier on the eye.
 
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