iPods, Notebooks, and... iMacs before the Holidays?

[gnikcjack]

I've only recently made the decision to switch to mac, and so I had no idea how this site usually works. I've been caught up in the frenzy over the fabled new macbooks, and I've gotten myself all excited over the rumors. I did, however, decided to read through macrumors announcements over the past several macbook updates, on the day they came out, and I'm starting to get over the hype. It seems that every time it gets close to update time, everyone starts believing all the rumors, and the update just ends up disappointing to all involved. Don't get me wrong, I wait with bated breath for an aluminum macbook with glass trackpad and multitouch, but I know it's unlikely that we will see all of these rumors come to fruition. Who knows, Apple could come through with something awesome...

This post is probably reiterating what all of you have come to accept as fact, so I apologize for my naivety. I sure as hell hope I can read through this in a couple of weeks and laugh at how wrong I was.

 

[vendettabass]

Cool. I will wait and go with QuadCore then. I really hope a new Imac by end of year is QuadCore. Won't there be an issue with heat within the slim Imac frame?

doubt it really, they managed to get a G5 in the iMac a few years back which I believe ran hotter than even a desktop Intel CPU

 

[CWallace]

(See below)

 

[Ironduke]

And why cannot the Macs be gaming machines as well?

Because Uncle steve gives us crumbs in the gfx card department.

 

[204467]

Because Uncle steve gives us crumbs in the gfx card department.

While I agree with you, please don't get him started again. He finally stopped yelling at me about that, I don't want you to get involved with his crap too.

 

[Ironduke]

While I agree with you, please don't get him started again. He finally stopped yelling at me about that, I don't want you to get involved with his crap too.

Its a fair comment though.

How many of us have made smart arsed Vista insults and jokes about windows PC's, Virus's etc..

Mac Gaming is in the same league, when you compare it to PC Gaming

 

[iMacmatician]

The 2.27GHz quad-core has the same TDP as the current 3.06GHz dual-core and the price for the CPUs is the same.

The 2.53GHz quad-core is about 10w higher, but the fans should be able to handle it. However, the CPU is about $300 more expensive then the 3.06GHz unit.

Wait… so the 2.27 GHz is 45 W and the 2.53 GHz is 55 W?

 

[mjteix]

The 2.27GHz quad-core has the same TDP as the current 3.06GHz dual-core and the price for the CPUs is the same.

The 2.53GHz quad-core is about 10w higher, but the fans should be able to handle it. However, the CPU is about $300 more expensive then the 3.06GHz unit.

Got it wrong:

Q9100 quad 2.26GHz TDP is 35W, $851
X9100 dual 3.06GHz TDP is 44W, $851
QX9300 quad 2.53GHz TDP is 45W, $1,038

 

[garyoke]

No MBP update?

The current interent buzz is that MBs and MBPs won't get their update till October.

 

[.Chris]

The current interent buzz is that MBs and MBPs won't get their update till October.

or September 16th.... (for the notebooks)

eirhter way it would be great for the Christmas season. Macworld may be the time for blu-ray, snow leopard, a major update to apple TV and may be the new mac "nano". you know the major product updates.....

 

[CWallace]

Wait… so the 2.27 GHz is 45 W and the 2.53 GHz is 55 W?

No, my recall was faulty when I typed that.

The 2.53GHz QX9300 has the same TDP as the 3.06GHz part in the iMac and the 2.26GHz Q9100 has the same TDP as the 2.6GHz part in the MacBook Pro.

So we could conceivably see the QX9300 in the iMac and the Q9100 in the MacBook Pro.

 

[kabunaru]

While I agree with you, please don't get him started again. He finally stopped yelling at me about that, I don't want you to get involved with his crap too.

I was not yelling at you, I was just discussing and why do you assume that I am crap?

 

[macjiro]

In single-threaded and two-threaded tasks, the 2.53 GHz quad-core is 83% as fast as the 3.07 GHz dual-core.
In multi-threaded tasks, the 2.53 GHz quad-core is 65% faster than the 3.07 GHz dual-core.

You guys have jedi-powers with all the number-crunching.
I was thinking....how about if you compared a MacPro Quad 2.66 to
a futuristic Imac Quad 2.27/2.53? How would they compare? And which would you go for?

 

[204467]

I was not yelling at you, I was just discussing and why do you assume that I am crap?

I'm not starting this again. And I didn't say you were crap, I said your arguing was annoying (i.e. crap).

 

[Cheffy Dave]

If Apple refreshes the iMac, its time to ditch the 20" LCD - go 22" for the baseline and 26" for the upper tier. Either that or make the baseline model $999 with the 20" screen.

Oh yeah, I'd be buyin that

 

[iMacmatician]

You guys have jedi-powers with all the number-crunching.
I was thinking....how about if you compared a MacPro Quad 2.66 to
a futuristic Imac Quad 2.27/2.53? How would they compare? And which would you go for?

If you want the raw numbers, assuming perfect scaling and CPU-bound workloads:

Mac CPUs                                  4x 2.67GHz Mac Pro  4x 2.27GHz iMac  4x 2.53GHz iMac
100% app usage                            1.000x Mac Pro      .850x Mac Pro    .950x Mac Pro
75% of 4x 2.67GHz app usage, ≥3 threads   1.000x Mac Pro      .800x Mac Pro    .933x Mac Pro
75% of 4x 2.67GHz app usage, 1~2 threads  1.000x Mac Pro      .850x Mac Pro    .950x Mac Pro

Also, the Mac Pro has a faster bus (2x 1333 MHz) than the iMac (1067 MHz).

 

[macjiro]

Thanks for figuring that out for me imacmatician.
I hope there is a 30" imac quad.

 

[TheSVD]

Hmm

I dunno really, was going to buy a macbook pro today.
Then when i saw they were out of stock (from the site pixmania) i decided to take a look if there was any updates.
Now, if the rumours about the updates of macbook pros are true, then im pretty sure that itll be on september 12th -
Why? Because thats when pixmania gets stock back in. If there are updates, im pretty sure thats when theyll be released, or perhaps even a few days before - 9th of september maybe?
Because why else would a retailer get stock of a product which is going to be updated, surely they would have been notified!
Looks kinda promising

Oh, and heres the link - http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/10722/xx/xx/105/9/criteresn.html

If you look at the 2.4Ghz macbook pro, it says its going to be brought back into stock on the 12th of september (not the 9th of december - this is english!) However, it says the other macbook pro is due in stock tommorow (or technically, today for me) So not too sure about an update really

Any thoughts?

 

[204467]

I dunno really, was going to buy a macbook pro today.
Then when i saw they were out of stock (from the site pixmania) i decided to take a look if there was any updates.
Now, if the rumours about the updates of macbook pros are true, then im pretty sure that itll be on september 12th -
Why? Because thats when pixmania gets stock back in. If there are updates, im pretty sure thats when theyll be released, or perhaps even a few days before - 9th of september maybe?
Because why else would a retailer get stock of a product which is going to be updated, surely they would have been notified!
Looks kinda promising

Oh, and heres the link - http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/10722/xx/xx/105/9/criteresn.html

If you look at the 2.4Ghz macbook pro, it says its going to be brought back into stock on the 12th of september (not the 9th of december - this is english!) However, it says the other macbook pro is due in stock tommorow (or technically, today for me) So not too sure about an update really

Any thoughts?

I don't think we'll have a MBP update on September 9, I just think that store was out of stock on that one type of MBP. The notebook update will probably happen in about a month, or maybe January. Of course, this is all speculation.

 

[gadgetgirl85]

I don't think we'll have a MBP update on September 9, I just think that store was out of stock on that one type of MBP. The notebook update will probably happen in about a month, or maybe January. Of course, this is all speculation.

I doubt it will be January

 

[204467]

I doubt it will be January

Hey, I'm not Steve Jobs. I don't have a high ranking position in Apple, so my guess is as good as yours. Like I said, it's just a guess.

 

[kabunaru]

I doubt it will be January

I still think we will see new MacBooks and MacBook Pros this month.

 

[TheSVD]

Okay then!
So do you think i should buy a mbp or not?
I mean, soon.
Id be willing to wait a few weeks for one, but not january!
And if its just some new tocuhpad features and an appearance change, im not bothered.
Its the specs im bothered about!
However, i dont think we'll be seeing any "cheap" mbp Quads, but i guess this doesnt affect me anyway cause ill be getting the cheapest one!

So yes or no to a mbp by the end of september guys!
Thanks

 

[204467]

Okay then!
So do you think i should buy a mbp or not?
I mean, soon.
Id be willing to wait a few weeks for one, but not january!
And if its just some new tocuhpad features and an appearance change, im not bothered.
Its the specs im bothered about!
However, i dont think we'll be seeing any "cheap" mbp Quads, but i guess this doesnt affect me anyway cause ill be getting the cheapest one!

So yes or no to a mbp by the end of september guys!
Thanks

How badly do you need it? If you can wait for another one, wait. If not, buy now.

 

[Eric S.]

How badly do you need it? If you can wait for another one, wait. If not, buy now.

Exactly. My rule is, when the urge to buy is irresistible, then buy. If you can resist, then wait.