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Re: 2 quick iPod questions....(sorry to hijack)

Originally posted by d.f
i am new to iPods, so i haven't a clue how it works..

1) I have tons of CD's but hate MP3's. Can i store my music without compression onto the iPod. There are actual HD recorders out there (Yammaha) which copy direct and don't compress.... Can the iPod do this...?

2) Also using Mac OS9 how do you copy a CD to your PC Hard drive. Mine won't copy, it just has the files as 4k 'shortcuts' and tells me they are Apple CD Player files....

any advice..?

thanx

First ... iPod is 10 GIG, 20 GIG, and 40 GIG ... so you can store that much onto it

so if you don't want to compress then 1 CD is 650 MB

to fill up 10 gig you need about 15 CD, about 30 for the 20 gig and 60 for the 40 gig

as far as coping music ... download iTunes for OS 9 off of apple.com or download.com and then just click on the CD and "convert to ___" i use wav, some like aiff but i found CD's reburned in aiff don't play in some CD players

good luck
 
ibooks sold out

When trying to order an iBook G4, a retailer here in Denmark told me "Apple is swallowed in succes and can't keep up with the consumer demand". Significantly, most of their sales was outside the graphic/print sector: many other sectors, especially universities (dual g5's en masse) and private consumers.

Seems like Apple is doing well.. :-D
 
1) I have tons of CD's but hate MP3's. Can i store my music without compression onto the iPod. There are actual HD recorders out there (Yammaha) which copy direct and don't compress.... Can the iPod do this...?

You will nees to find a player that support some lossless codec, like FLAC. It will compress your cd's to something like 320MB. I think there is a Rio player that does that.

Alternatively a player like the iRiver iHP-120 will record pure wav-files, as well as mp3-files in 320kb quality (with optical line in/out !].
 
Originally posted by caveman_uk

To my mind the most widespread Apple seller in the UK must be John Lewis. It's worth remembering that the UK has no AppleStores like the US has (can we have one please?) we only have resellers and the online store...


John Lewis has sold the most iPods in Europe, as per my mother who works there.

EDIT: And they got a new big shipment a few days ago, and it was sold out. In the 2 minutes I was in the department last Sunday, 2 40 gigs walked out the door.
 
One reason for the success of Sony and Windows is that you can buy them anywhere. Apple should note this and concentrate on providing more routes to market for this product. the iPod is the Walkman of the naughties.
 
Originally posted by JW Pepper
. the iPod is the Walkman of the naughties.

Similar point was made in the New York Times Magazine a few weeks back

Great article ... i recommend reading it to anyone if they can get their hands on it
 
iPod = Cabbage Patch Kid?

Anybody remember those? Can it be that Apple has a hit of similar proportions on its hands? If so, then the rumors of a premium, maybe video iPod, and low end, cheap iPods in colors would be coming at just the right time.

AND -- time to clear up the battery problem. Go to the MSNBC Tech section, and there's a story about the iPod battery brothers -- without a single mention of the moves Apple has made to meet the problem, or any attempt to see how common (not) battery failure is after 18 months. (My 5 GB iPod, bought the day after the announcement, is chugging along) Hmm. Wonder what the "MS" stands for in MSNBC.
 
I sold my 15GB iPod a few weeks back and since then i have bought a Lacie HD for backing up my stuff.

I don't need a big iPod now and a smaller one would go down a treat.
 
Re: Alot of places here are sold out

Originally posted by ITR 81
BB and CompUSA here are both sold out of all iPods.
CompUSA sold out yesterday according to my friend that works there. They first sold out of the 20-30-40GB ver first and then the 10GB sold out. They had just got in 50 new iPods just over the weekend and sold those all in just a few days.

I just happened to stop by my local Fry's Electronics last night and saw that all of the 10 & 20GB models were sold out and they only had maybe 8 40GBs left. Just a couple of weeks ago at this same location they had around 20-30 of each model in stock.
 
iPod + Belkin Card Reader seems the ideal solution to Digital Photographers that don't have or want to carry a laptop with them in the field to dump their pictures onto

for comparison (in Canadian Dollars) 20 gig iPod + Belkin Card Reader = 750$

vs. 20 Gigs worth of compact flash cards at about 8000$

how much would you rather spend?

for backing up your hard drive, the iPod may not seem like the ideal solution, and i guess if you don't have X gigs of mp3 and don't wanna carry around empty space the bigger iPods may not be the solution ... but there are other uses
 
Re: 2 quick iPod questions....(sorry to hijack)

Originally posted by d.f
i am new to iPods, so i haven't a clue how it works..

1) I have tons of CD's but hate MP3's. Can i store my music without compression onto the iPod. There are actual HD recorders out there (Yammaha) which copy direct and don't compress.... Can the iPod do this...?

2) Also using Mac OS9 how do you copy a CD to your PC Hard drive. Mine won't copy, it just has the files as 4k 'shortcuts' and tells me they are Apple CD Player files....

any advice..?

thanx


Yes, you can play back your CDs on the iPod uncompressed. As another poster said, download iTunes and use it to import your CDs. Choose the AIFF format to import the music uncompressed.

This will use up a lot of space on your iPod though. iTunes for OS 9 is an older version which I don't believe supports the newer AAC compression. If you can get access to OS X and the latest iTunes, you can use AAC compression and see if you like it.

Another thing to consider is the iPod spins up the hard drive to load the 32 MB of RAM with music. This is about 5 songs with MP3s, but with uncompressed audio, the hard drive will be starting and stopping (or runs continuously?) and will seriously reduce battery life.
 
My folks decided that they could afford to get me a 20gig iPod for Xmas this year - well, actually they decided they could afford the 10gig, but I had a spare £50 in my account 😉

Anyway, I tried to get one from the online store a few weeks ago, and the damn thing just would not accept any of my card numbers. Numerous attempts and chatting to a store rep (top bloke, very helpful and supportive, rang ME back several times to see how things were getting on) left me with over ten rejected orders. Grr.

However, I was determined, so gave up on the online route and decided to go for the high street retail stores. First call was John Lewis in Glasgow. Spent about 10 mins lusting over their 40gig display model, playing with it etc, then went to the counter to ask for a 20gig model. The guy behind the counter kinda laughed half heartedly and said "we WISH!". Seems that they ran out about a week earlier, and had been taking back orders since then. The guy's chat was that even IF Apple managed to get a delivery to them before the 25th, they would pretty much all go out to back order customers. In the last day of stock alone, they shifted 20 units in the morning, and had been taking the same number of orders pretty much daily.

Next stop was Virgin Megastore. These guys have some iPods for sale over the counter in some stores, but not in Glasgow. A quick chat with the counter staff told me that the Edinburgh store was also sold out of all but a few 40gig iPods. Dang.

I then headed for a small Apple vendor called Scotsys. I've dealt with these guys before, and they're pretty marketing focussed - any time I walk in all they do is try and sell me more stuff. Anyway, I walk in and ask for a 20gig iPod. Turns out THEY'VE been sold out for about a week too. The sales rep proudly claims that he "sold the last 20gig iPod in Scotland", and then goes on to try and sell me a 40gig model. "Could you be persuaded to buy a 40gig?" he asks. "Could you sell it for the price of a 20?" I respond before heading back into town...

So, finally, I head into Dixons - I had to get a present for my Mum from there, just a wee CD player. So I chat to the guy to see if they have these in stock, and almost as a throwaway say "Yeah, I saw you had some 40gig iPods behind the counter. Any 20gigs in stock?". His face lights up at the thought of his commission bonus, and he scurries off to say "I'll check - I think we found some this afternoon".

When he said "Found", he wasn't kidding. Turns out they had ordered some 40gigs, and a couple of the boxes were 20s by mistake. I snapped one up, and while I was paying for it the other one was sold too. The counter kid was actually a mac owner, so we chatted for a bit about the current selling trends. Seems that Dixons have been selling iPods retail like hotcakes - it was the only player that they had sold out of in the run up to Xmas, and that was only partly due to bad supply. If they had sold as many of any of the other players they stock, they'd have had the same problems.

"We've stopped putting them on display out of the boxes" the kid laughed, "we just have to box them back up after twenty minutes!"

Seriously, this is some GREAT news for Apple, and bear in mind that the UK is now loaded with iPods WITHOUT the iTMS yet. Imagine what's going to happen in Q1 2004 when Apple launches a mini iPod and iTMS Europe.

Remember, you don't create a market by creating supply, you create it by creating demand. That's exactly what Apple has done, and they've managed to clear stock in the UK with minimal advertising, minimal store presence, and minimal support.

Wait until Q2. iPod will be the ONLY player to be seen with - it's the Walkman all over again. I can't actually wait for people to refer to the "iPod" section of a store, or the "Rio iPod" or whatever. Sony was the overpriced also ran before the Walkman. Here we go again...

🙂
 
The ACC is a free that any store can chose to adopt unlike WMA which is not.
WMA is Free (to use) but not free to crack. The problem with WMA is not the quality of the file or the encoding. Instead the DRM is MS based. The lisence for the DRM is where the money comes in.

It's NO DIFFERENT THAN APPLE. AAC is an open standard and free to use as compression. If you want to playback files with Apple's DRM you'll need to license that code from Apple as well.

This isn't rocket science.
 
whether or not there's a fix (and if you know of one, please email me!), I *hope to GOD* all these ipods flying off the shelf aren't going to pcs that have this same problem, because it will prove to be a catAstrophe for apple.


No Need to worry mate!

Apple can blame it on terrorism
We aRe! on Orange Alert Folks!!
 
This post is somewhat off topic, but we will all live!

Okay, for Christmas i'm getting just money and I can buy whatever I want. And I was planning on getting an iPod. I have about 4 or 5 hundred dollars, but every place that I can find around South Georgia/North Florida that actually carries iPod's seem to be sold of of them. So if ya'll were me would you...

Get a 20 Gig iPod with accessories

or

Get one of the 'rumored' 2/4 Gig iPods
Get Panther
And use whatever money is left on Ram

Ohh, keep in mind I don't have a TON of songs, but i'm sure I could get a lot!
 
This Is AWESOME!!!

i'm sorry but the more people using/talking about apple products the better. We have the edge on competitors... The Apple name is associated now with cool and hip, as well as quality products. There's no chance Dell or some other punk can compete with that.

word to apple... let's go to war!
 
A little anecdotal evidence...

I was at Wendy's yesterday and I saw a guy with an Apple Rep shirt on. He said he worked at a CompUSA in the north part of Houston. When I asked him how iPods were doing, he said, "We've run out."

So, I can't say whether it is generally true, but this is just one story to suggest that it MIGHT be.
 
Good post, JayBee -

I got a 5GB when they were announced, daily use for 3 years and still going strong. 15GB this spring when the 3G's came out.

Until three weeks ago, there were 3 iPods at my work(~1000 people). Since then, I've seen several new additions. Even my dept's(R&D) VP. I loaned him my iTrip, 'cause he was complaing about his Belkin, and he got all excited about how well it worked. Always good to score points.

Major home run, Apple.

Z
 
i am new to iPods, so i haven't a clue how it works..

1) I have tons of CD's but hate MP3's. Can i store my music without compression onto the iPod. There are actual HD recorders out there (Yammaha) which copy direct and don't compress.... Can the iPod do this...?

any advice..?


Before you start loading uncompressed CDs into your iPod, you really should give the AAC compression scheme a try. It is excellent--not remotely comparable to mp3. The difference between a high bitrate AAC and an uncompressed CD is so slight that the earbud headphones that come with an iPod probably can't even communicate the difference to your ears. So unless you are using studio-grade headphones and doing critical audio engineering in a quiet room, you would be much better off using the iPod in the way it was designed.

Perspective check: people used audio cassettes for what, over three decades? People still managed to enjoy their music, even with the high noise floor and omnipresent tape hiss. To my ear, mp3 sounds about equivalent to cassette minus the hiss. AAC sounds like a CD missing perhaps a SLIGHT bit of auditory depth. Both STOMP on cassette. Mp3/AAC players don't skip with the frightening regularity of a Walkman CD player-type of device, either.

If you want to listen to uncompressed CDs, seeing that you can only put a few on any commercially available mp3/AAC player you might as well just carry them around and use a CD player (and deal with the skips). I would much rather carry EVERY SONG I OWN around with me anywhere I go on something that a) plays for several hours at a pop, b) doesn't skip, c) sorts my music any way I like, and d) is only a little larger than a box of Chicklets.
 
Originally posted by carletonmusic
Well, this would make sense for a space bump at MWSF.

15GB $299
30GB $399
50GB $499

2GB $99
4GB $149

There's no 50GB hard drive to put in an iPod, so you won't see a 50GB iPod.

<a href="http://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=/818100000007000000010000659800000000/81820000010d000000010000659c000003b7">Toshiba's</a>
website lists the drives available (click on "see all drives" for the 1.8 inch hard drives):

5 GB
10 GB
15 GB
20 GB
30 GB
40 GB

You won't see a 2G/3G iPod in any size other than those, unless (a big unless) Toshiba provides Apple (one of their big competitors in the laptop market) hard drives well before they announce them. I have NO idea what they'll use for the mini-iPods, as the obvious choices, the Hitachi microdrive, or flash memory, are both at current prices too damned expensive.
 
Iceman06

Well the 2/4 gig is just that rumored

so i would wait to see what Jan has to offer ...

but if you just want to use the iPod for music the smaller size is probably Ideal
 
Originally posted by Kingsnapped
I got my 10gig in Milwauke on Saturday. The store there was running low on the 10s, but had plenty of 20s and 40s though. Dammed if I could find a dock, a good case or nice speakers in stock though.

It all comes down to personal preference, but I would have gone for the 20 or 40 GB models. If you do the math and price it out, buying a 10 GB, then buying the wired remote, carrying case and dock separately works out to about the same cost as the 20 GB model, with which you receive all those items included. Well, the 20 GB still costs a bit more, but still the extra cost is minimal when you consider you're doubling your capacity.

Whatever works for ya though!
 
Re: Re: 2 quick iPod questions....(sorry to hijack)

Originally posted by razorme
Yes, you can play back your CDs on the iPod uncompressed. As another poster said, download iTunes and use it to import your CDs. Choose the AIFF format to import the music uncompressed.

This will use up a lot of space on your iPod though. iTunes for OS 9 is an older version which I don't believe supports the newer AAC compression. If you can get access to OS X and the latest iTunes, you can use AAC compression and see if you like it.

Another thing to consider is the iPod spins up the hard drive to load the 32 MB of RAM with music. This is about 5 songs with MP3s, but with uncompressed audio, the hard drive will be starting and stopping (or runs continuously?) and will seriously reduce battery life.

Excellent posting. A good compromise would be to encode at a higher bitrate than standard in AAC: that way your compression won't be quite as lossy.
 
A little of topic but

iPod watch - Shanghai, Anchorage, Memphis, Winnipeg, Mount Hope, Burlington - and now on the Fedex Delivery truck to my house ... just in time for Christmas
 
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