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Iran iPhone Ban Looms Unless Apple Registers With Anti-Smuggling Scheme
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Here's an article about getting arrested.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/w...hines-light-on-dangers-for-dual-citizens.html
Agreed but Iran is pushing it with threats whereas other questionable countries are not.
Because smuggled phones cannot be controlled or censored. We are dealing with a totalitarian country that has implemented Sharia Law. Under Sharia concepts like Natural Law, which we recognize, through reason, to be the source of our freedom, are irrelevant. Sharia is all about blind obedience to the utterly arbitrary and utterly removed Creator God.
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Isolation may be the only option if said country vows to not rest until they have integrated us, not into the world economy, but their caliphate and have integrated us into Sharia.
Yeah, it's much better to suppress any hope and give Iranians less and less reason to be sympathetic with the Western world.
And look who's willing to present them "the other side"!
How to keep a prisoner in prison: You deny them access to society, or in this case: how to keep a "bad" country bad: deny them access to the world economy, impose embargoes, give their wing-nuts a clear-cut bogeyman.
Ahmadinejad is again gaining popularity and we all know it's not because he has such a great track record of leading his country into a peace-focussed direction, but he is one of them preaching against the all evil West that denies their industries a fair shot at trade even post-embargo times.
I see where you're getting at, but tossing iPhones on the Iranian market isn't much of a diplomatic gesture as mere business.
Besides, whilst you're mocking sales to Iran's people (where the respective individual buyer may have any political view under the sun) they are selling iPhones to all kinds of backwards-thinking people anywhere else as well.
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Yes, but you probably are not Jewish or gay or something else that offends Khomeini.
How much money has Apple passed up on collecting and mining data, because they viewed it as a violation of their customers' right to privacy? It’s certainly not against who they are to stand on principle, and they absolutely shouldn't sanction the existence of such an evil regime by selling in that country.
I would like anyone to explain to me, and said 5 year old, why our safety and security should depend on luck, and providing economic incentives to a bunch of thugs who want to establish a global militarily enforced theocratic dictatorship, and kill anyone who disagrees with them? Please explain to us why we should attempt to establish peace by negotiating through economic incentives with people who don’t respect our right to live, as opposed to demanding peace or else. I’d love to hear the rationale behind that one, because you’re right, that’s definitely a rationalization that no 5 year old would ever find necessary to manufacture.
A beacon of Reason in a rolling sea of Altruism.. Hats off to you good sir.
None , as it's not there core business, nor has anyone approached Apple to sell the data.
Though back on topic of their core business, they have never stopped selling hardware to evil regimes.
And if you are angling at Google here , Google does not sell your personal data, it's demographic data. Also Apple mines it's own data, for its own purposes ....
Apple should withhold and refuse until they get their human rights in check.
Do you really think Apple has thst much of influence to Iran or any other country?
I don't think any government cares about Apple.
Apple should stop selling at USA also. There is no more evil regime than USofA.
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Homosexuals need to be dealt with. Homosexual is evil...
See, even Canada has people like this.
From what I hear pretty much everyone in Iran has an iPhone even though you cant buy one officially because of sanctions. It is not even close to being as backward a country as the west likes to make out. I would take this story with a pinch of salt.
Iran is by no means as backwards as some people believe here.
Although it's been more than 10 years ago since I visited I was astounded by how Iran was and most likely still is.
The people are by far the friendliest in the world, I was amazed by how many people studied and my overall view of it changed dramatically.
Some of the nicest mosques in the world and plenty to see.
And BTW, I do think that muslim countries in the middle east should have a strong leader and lead with an iron fist, you saw what happens if those leaders gets removed, plenty of examples, Irak/Egypt for instance are a mess.
Turkey has had a different anti-smuggling policy in place for years: There is a huge luxury tax on electronics in the country (25%, IIRC). This means that, in spite of the weak Turkish Lira and the generally lower wage level, smartphones are much more expensive there than in neighboring countries.
To make sure people couldn't bypass the tax via undeclared imports, imported phones will stop working on Turkish networks after 120 days unless you register their IMEI with the provider, which is a drawn-out and annoying process. (While I do believe that free speech is severely restricted in Turkey, I don't think this particular policy makes it any worse – or, conversely: abolishing the SIM lock wouldn't improve the situation for free speech in the country. This seems more like a way to ensure people will pay that high luxury tax.)
From a purely technical level, this ban is established by restricting access for unregistered IMEIS after 120 days. It doesn't require any cooperation by the device manufacturers, they just need to make sure the telcos play along. Not sure why Iran feels they need someone from Apple to enforce their policies.
You are so wrong. You can come to Iran as a tourist and have a great time. Don't be so ignorant.
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You don't even know the name of the supreme leader. Khomeini died 27 years ago.
Also I'm iranian and have many jewish and gay friends here. Sure, the government doesn't like Israel and that has nothing to do with the jews. Also sure the gays can't publicly be gay, but isn't that the case in many other countries around such as Russia, Saudi Arabia, UAE? And Apple sells in all those countries.
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I am also an Iranian Canadian with dual citizenship same as many of my other friends and never had any issues. If you don't wanna be arrested don't get involved in politics or espionage.
Yes, but the story is about Iran and Russia doesn't execute gays.
If that's what tourists have to do. Hey, if anti-muslim people around here want people to be vetted, then the same should hold true for qualifying Americans in other countries. Surely that's not unfair?
Ask Iran's leader directly. It's his country and rules and regulations.
Surely the simple solution is to not use it or bring it and avoid the issue entirely?
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Why should he care? He runs a business. The most he'll ever be likely to con himself into believing is that he "can change the world" with his product, and even then...
Nor has he any business convincing a foreign government what to do or the people in how to vote. It's like a Christian going to a gay couple's house and telling them what not to do despite it being legal.
Business was also created to get around personal beliefs and to find a common good. Even a college instructor, who was no anti-business commie liberal by the way, told students to put their beliefs to the side because "it's just a job, what you make for the client". Granted, making one person rich at the expense of another, as opposed to making tools that aren't walled gardens or any other form of lock-in or trickery is pretty nasty too. But citing a religion or other excuse is pretty low in the business world. If governing won't take care of social issues, then those businesses need to grow up. We've seen that these days, though some have played the gay card unethically do drum up business (chicken fast food, cake shop that had been undergoing financial hardship until just the right wedge issue was found to be exploited for rubes to froth over.)
Yet. Let's see people go there and all of a sudden made an example of.
Um... Most absurd post of the day award. Might actually be in the running for the week?
Yes they do. Get a clue.
Also, who the hell defends Iran?? Really. And Trump just got the nomination... And Hillary is next... What the hell is wrong with people.... >.<
US of A is the root of all the masses around the world. US of A is behind a these conflicts. Started with Iraq war, US made Iraq a mess. US of A is made middle East as whole a mess.
US is also behind the mess around South China Sea.
If there is no US, there will be no such mess in Middle east, Asia and around the world.