Iran Reportedly Warns Apple is Among Potential Targets

[jon9091]

If you’re a fan of high oil prices…you loved that speech.

 

[ClaraStahlbaum]

We do not know that yet. Rising gas prices can also lead to demand destruction as well.

You have to have your head in the sand if you seriously can't see that gas prices have gone up. Wow. I find that truly astonishing.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

I stated why the regime must be removed, I didn't say it was

Trump was the one that lied that the regime has been changed. Lying is what he does.

 

[ClaraStahlbaum]

If you’re a fan of high oil prices…you loved that speech.

It is always amazing to me to see how many lies Trump supporters are willing to defend, even when it hurts them.

 

[vi2867]

Iran's allies will support this. Those allies being Russia, China, North Korea and American liberals

Why do you include American Liberals? This is so sad you think that...

 

[jon9091]

Trump says the war will be over in 2 weeks…just like his health care policy was gonna be ready in two weeks…and Covid was gonna be gone in 2 weeks. 👌✨

 

[Velli]

You basically just stated why the regime must be removed

But you can’t. Just like Trump can only be Trump because he is backed by a significant amount of Americans, the “regime” is not just a few people at the top. It is a regime because it is backed by a significant number of religious fanatics. You can’t just disrupt the regime and then pull out. A new regime would pop up in it’s place. Iran is 90 million people - are you going to eradicate them all? I don’t have to spell out who that would make you compared to.

This goal can ONLY - theoretically - be achieved by a massive land invasion, where you forcefully take control of a country with deep disdain for the intruder, which has essentially never worked in all of human history.

The only solution, like it or not, would have been a diplomatic one, which you have now made infinitely more difficult.

You are acting like just because the US is the most powerful nation of the world, it can and should simply dictate how every other country is being run. I’m sure there’s a minority of Americans who are delusional enough to actually believe that, but they should have left the grown-ups run the country.

Seems like Cuba is next. Then what? North Korea? (how did that go last time?) Russia? China? I thought you voted Trump in office to stop endless wars?

There is only one way out of this conflict for the US, and that is with it’s tail between it’s legs.

And just to be clear, because not everyone grasps the idea of two villains: I am in no way supporting Iran or it’s actions. But air raids is very clearly not the answer, and if you haven’t accepted that yet, you will see the fallout over the next couple of decades.

 

[Velli]

Why do you include American Liberals? This is so sad you think that...

This is exactly why Trump is in office. That’s why I used the term “brainwashed” earlier.

 

[Velli]

The regime has not been removed.

The 86 year old ayatollah that was already dying of cancer was replaced by his son who is 30 years younger and by all accounts even more extreme.

Brilliant!

And if he wasn’t more extreme before, he definitely is now.

 

[Velli]

Iran has killed scores of Americans, have sleeper cells in the U.S. and Europe, finance and support terror proxies, and CNN televised their trip to Missile City in Iran. They claimed their current missiles weren't mid range, then they sent one to Diego Garcia, twice the claimed distance.
Sometimes you have to act before things get worse, and they would have.
Head in the sand isn't a real world strategy.

Any act is not a good act. However bad you think it was becoming, Trump’s actions have made it worse, not better.

Not every problem is solvable, and certainly not through yet another war.

 

[Velli]

Their military has been severely downgraded. Know now that they had missiles with twice the distance they said before, you would feel better leaving the regime in place and allowing them to finally get the ballistic missile able to reach the U.S. and add a nuclear warhead to it?
NATO is bey9ind worthless and now they have proven it, so we will spend less money defending worthless allies and more money on our own military. Win-win.
There comes a time when nations have to act and Iran has been at war with us for 47 years, this time we have someone in Office who will finally meet that threat, not hand them billions of dollars like Obama The Appeaser and DEI Joe.

You keep talking about what happened 47 years ago. Are you aware of why the Islamic revolution happened?

 

[steve62388]

Their military has been severely downgraded. Know now that they had missiles with twice the distance they said before, you would feel better leaving the regime in place and allowing them to finally get the ballistic missile able to reach the U.S. and add a nuclear warhead to it?
NATO is bey9ind worthless and now they have proven it, so we will spend less money defending worthless allies and more money on our own military. Win-win.
There comes a time when nations have to act and Iran has been at war with us for 47 years, this time we have someone in Office who will finally meet that threat, not hand them billions of dollars like Obama The Appeaser and DEI Joe.

You basically just stated why the regime must be removed

Iran has killed scores of Americans, have sleeper cells in the U.S. and Europe, finance and support terror proxies, and CNN televised their trip to Missile City in Iran. They claimed their current missiles weren't mid range, then they sent one to Diego Garcia, twice the claimed distance.
Sometimes you have to act before things get worse, and they would have.
Head in the sand isn't a real world strategy.

Why doesn’t the US administration consider Russia a greater threat than Iran? Because by your measures it should, it does everything Iran does but more and ramped up to eleven.

Russia has nuclear weapons, it has repeatedly threatened to use them, it has ballistic missiles capable of reaching the US, it has actively invaded a neighbouring country, it conducts considerable cyber attacks and espionage, it uses sleeper cells, it carries out assassinations on foreign soil, and it meddles in US and other countries elections.

It can’t be that ‘it’s not in my back yard’, because neither is Iran.

 

[mw360]

Their military has been severely downgraded. Know now that they had missiles with twice the distance they said before, you would feel better leaving the regime in place and allowing them to finally get the ballistic missile able to reach the U.S. and add a nuclear warhead to it?
NATO is bey9ind worthless and now they have proven it, so we will spend less money defending worthless allies and more money on our own military. Win-win.
There comes a time when nations have to act and Iran has been at war with us for 47 years, this time we have someone in Office who will finally meet that threat, not hand them billions of dollars like Obama The Appeaser and DEI Joe.

Wow, you bought the whole package from Trump didn't you? NATO isn't a do-whatever-the-US-wants alliance. It's a defence pact. If Trump wanted allies he should have built an alliance like GB and GWB did, and not insulted and tariffed and threatened to invade his allies. But he didn't want allies did he? He wanted to be the big **** on the world stage and do a sneak attack on the Iranians while they were foolish enough to try negotiating with him.

He's been itching to destroy Iran since the 80s and he thought he could do it all alone, and he couldn't. Now he's begging for NATO bail him out of his own mess like a child would. That's not what NATO does. It's for defence and stability and the special deal the US got was to maintain US influence over Europe, to deter all the European nations building their own nukes that might one day point back at the US. Well, guess what Europeans are now saying about nuclear weapons. Because Trump is a moron who doesn't know how anything works.

 

[mw360]

Why would the US administration consider Iran a greater threat than Russia? Because by your measures it should, it does everything Iran does but more and ramped up to eleven.

Russia has nuclear weapons, it has repeatedly threatened to use them, it has ballistic missiles capable of reaching the US, it has actively invaded a neighbouring country, it conducts considerable cyber attacks and espionage, it uses sleeper cells, and it meddles in US and other countries elections.

It can’t be that ‘it’s not in my back yard’, because neither is Iran.

Maybe Trump can explain it...

"We're not supposed to be seduced that way, right? But I am. When someone's nice to me, I love that person. Even if they're bad people. I couldn't care less. I’ll fight to the end for them."

 

[Imperial926]

You have to have your head in the sand if you seriously can't see that gas prices have gone up. Wow. I find that truly astonishing.

I understand that US prices have risen far less than elsewhere. In addition, it's anticipated that there will be a knock-on with everything else being affected due to rising delivery costs. There has been a tremendous reception in the UK media to the Artemis 2 launch. The people around this represent the best of America and we try to hold on to these thoughts despite the put-downs from Hegseth and Trump at this time. I am old enough to remember the Apollo launches and the image I had of the US that stayed with me through most of my life until the Trump era.

 

[Madhatter32]

You have to have your head in the sand if you seriously can't see that gas prices have gone up. Wow. I find that truly astonishing.

This is getting nowhere because you just change the goal posts -- presenting misinformation and then changing your argument once corrected. You literally said there is "rampant" inflation. I presented you with evidence to the contrary. Gas prices are quite obviously up. But, just so you know, gas prices are just one input to inflation. Go to the Federal Reserve website if you doubt any of what I am saying.

 

[Velli]

I understand that US prices have risen far less than elsewhere. In addition, it's anticipated that there will be a knock-on with everything else being affected due to rising delivery costs. There has been a tremendous reception in the UK media to the Artemis 2 launch. The people around this represent the best of America and we try to hold on to these thoughts despite the put-downs from Hegseth and Trump at this time. I am old enough to remember the Apollo launches and the image I had of the US that stayed with me through most of my life until the Trump era.

From which information do you understand that? The numbers I can find shows US gas prices up by 40% vs 20% in most western countries. US increase is lower in dollars, but much higher as a percentage, since the US price is so much lower (less than half, even after the price hike).

As for Artemis, yes that’s how you keep a population contempt while you hold them down. Why do you think Middle East countries spend billions upon billions on sports events?

I prefer bragging about our free health care, rather than basking in glory over Andreas Mogensen.

 

[Velli]

This is getting nowhere because you just change the goal posts -- presenting misinformation and then changing your argument once corrected. You literally said there is "rampant" inflation. I presented you with evidence to the contrary. Gas prices are quite obviously up. But, just so you know, gas prices are just one input to inflation. Go to the Federal Reserve website if you doubt any of what I am saying.

Oil prices will affect lots of things other than gas, but if course there is a delay in official numbers. You are the one hiding behind semantics here.

 

[Madhatter32]

Why doesn’t the US administration consider Russia a greater threat than Iran? Because by your measures it should, it does everything Iran does but more and ramped up to eleven.

The Steve that does not rely on the straw man fallacies is the winner here. So its 333 over 62388 in this case.

 

[Madhatter32]

Oil prices will affect lots of things other than gas, but if course there is a delay in official numbers. You are the one hiding behind semantics here.

Semantics? It's a literal fact. If there was "rampant" inflation the Federal Reserve would be raising interest rates ... like they did under Biden. We may experience serious inflation at some point in the future, but to make that claim right now is just wrong. Anyway, it is interesting (and sad) to me that some people would exchange national security in exchange for $1 at the gas pumps.

 

[ThomasJL]

The report said the Telegram post listed 18 companies that Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps views as "legitimate targets," including Apple, Microsoft, Google, Meta, IBM, Cisco, Tesla, Boeing, Nvidia, J.P. Morgan, and others.

Iran was illegally and offensively attacked by America and Israel. Iran has a right to defend itself. And that means any American corporation, which is helping the American military or Israeli military, qualifies as a legitimate military target under the law of armed conflict (LOAC), also known as International Humanitarian Law.

 

[Madhatter32]

Iran was illegally and offensively attacked by America and Israel. Iran has a right to defend itself. And that means any American corporation, which is helping the American military or Israeli military, qualifies as a legitimate military target under the law of armed conflict (LOAC), also known as International Humanitarian Law.

Israel is not subject to the War Powers Act. And the American action against Iran has not violated it based on well established precedent. So, your premise is wrong. And to support attacks on civilians and private enterprise is to support war crimes. Not a good look.

 

[ClaraStahlbaum]

Semantics? It's a literal fact. If there was "rampant" inflation the Federal Reserve would be raising interest rates ... like they did under Biden. We may experience serious inflation at some point in the future, but to make that claim right now is just wrong. Anyway, it is interesting (and sad) to me that some people would exchange national security in exchange for $1 at the gas pumps.

If you want to pay higher gas prices to support some BS war - go ahead. I, and a lot of the others here won't join you in that. You even admit that we may experience serious inflation, you admit that gas prices are going up, but you still support it. A lot of people are struggling right now and this kind of logic is basically telling them "let them eat cake". You are either severely misinformed, or you are 100% into MAGA Propaganda. This is a very tone deaf statement to make.

 

[Madhatter32]

You are either severely misinformed, or you are 100% into MAGA Propaganda. This is a very tone deaf statement to make.

I am neither MAGA nor misinformed. Care to guess again? You seem to measure national security by the price of gas. Is that a logical position? I, and many others, do not think so. For example, would Ukrainians take that position? A modicum of reflection before typing might help you here.

 

[jon9091]

You seem to measure national security by the price of gas

You seem to measure national security on the word of a 34 times convicted felon. Is that a logical position?