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The only thing dumber than your stupid question is me for replying in this stupid thread. :(

No, the only thing dumber than the stupid question is me replying to your reply in this stupid thread
 
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Sure this thread is stupid, but it brings up a good topic for discussion.

How will the millions of students that buy the watch be prevented from wearing one while taking an exam or the like? Even for K-12 students, phones typically aren't allowed to be used in the classroom - what about the watch? I've already heard stories of schools banning not just smartwatches, but all watches. I think the Apple Watch will only make this more common and widespread.
You are right, it might seem really stupid that I post a stupid thread, but the main point is that the Apple Watch should not be an excuse for cheating on a test. Do the ethical thing of not cheating by putting it in Power Reserve and forgetting that the watch is even there to avoid getting in a nasty converstion with the instructor, and not risking getting held back. But if you still think cheating is an ethical thing, go for it! :p
 
You are right, it might seem really stupid that I post a stupid thread, but the main point is that the Apple Watch should not be an excuse for cheating on a test. Do the ethical thing of not cheating by putting it in Power Reserve and forgetting that the watch is even there to avoid getting in a nasty converstion with the instructor, and not risking getting held back. But if you still think cheating is an ethical thing, go for it! :p

Ah ha! I like that. Nice evasive maneuver.

Problem is, no ones going to by it :D (it's the wink that's the tell)
 
I can't imagine they'll be banned at public schools, but maybe colleges and private schools. I'm not sure how effective they would be for cheating. Somebody would have to be tapping answers like morse code or speaking into the watch. It's possible though. I have 3 students that have pre-ordered them, so I'll keep my eye out for them. I let my students use their phones on tests, especially during cold, flu, and allergy season. But my rule is that they need to select their album/playlist before the test is handed out. If they touch their phones after the test is out, then it's considered cheating. I haven't had a problem with cheating on devices, but that's probably because they can use their study guides on tests and few need more than that.

It would be interesting to see how a school would respond. Cell phones are not supposed to be out in my school, yet kids always have them out. There's really not much we can do. We could write referrals or give detentions, but those won't stop it. We can't take devices. The best solution is for parents to pay $5/month so that they can turn off their kids' phones from 7:30-2 each day.

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I am interested -- how many teachers/professors are in here and waiting? One!

count me in. HS social studies
 
I can't imagine they'll be banned at public schools, but maybe colleges and private schools. I'm not sure how effective they would be for cheating. Somebody would have to be tapping answers like morse code or speaking into the watch. It's possible though. I have 3 students that have pre-ordered them, so I'll keep my eye out for them. I let my students use their phones on tests, especially during cold, flu, and allergy season. But my rule is that they need to select their album/playlist before the test is handed out. If they touch their phones after the test is out, then it's considered cheating. I haven't had a problem with cheating on devices, but that's probably because they can use their study guides on tests and few need more than that.

It would be interesting to see how a school would respond. Cell phones are not supposed to be out in my school, yet kids always have them out. There's really not much we can do. We could write referrals or give detentions, but those won't stop it. We can't take devices. The best solution is for parents to pay $5/month so that they can turn off their kids' phones from 7:30-2 each day.

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count me in. HS social studies

Music during an exam? First time I hear that!
 
How?????

In your exam room, constantly turning your watch towards you in a motion to make the bright electronic screen light up while you read crib notes wouldn't be noticed????
Damn... in that case, order a pizza while you're taking it
 
Music during an exam? First time I hear that!

I just will allow it on a chapter test, not on an Exam. when 40 kids are in a room built for 25 kids, and over half are sneezy, sniffling, and coughing, I figure the music helps them focus. I've never heard of a student recording a chapter's worth of notes in audio format on a device...my students are too lazy to cheat like that
 
I can't imagine they'll be banned at public schools, but maybe colleges and private schools. I'm not sure how effective they would be for cheating. Somebody would have to be tapping answers like morse code or speaking into the watch. It's possible though. I have 3 students that have pre-ordered them, so I'll keep my eye out for them. I let my students use their phones on tests, especially during cold, flu, and allergy season. But my rule is that they need to select their album/playlist before the test is handed out. If they touch their phones after the test is out, then it's considered cheating. I haven't had a problem with cheating on devices, but that's probably because they can use their study guides on tests and few need more than that.

It would be interesting to see how a school would respond. Cell phones are not supposed to be out in my school, yet kids always have them out. There's really not much we can do. We could write referrals or give detentions, but those won't stop it. We can't take devices. The best solution is for parents to pay $5/month so that they can turn off their kids' phones from 7:30-2 each day.

Why don't I have an awesome teacher like you :mad:? Music on test?! Count me in!
 
But if you still think cheating is an ethical thing, go for it! :p

That statement alone tells us everything we need to know about you. I'll bet you are a huge cheater. Some day, when you are expected to actually know something you faked, it will come back to haunt you. But they then, you'll probably be in jail. We can only hope.

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You can't fail me, since I won't cheat. And I'm in almost all AP classes, so that's an added plus.:D

No one as ***** as you could be in AP.
 
Gosh. What an appalling thread title, and what a singularly dreadful idea.

I am beginning to think that the Watch threads might be even worse than the infamous iPhone threads.

One of the Watch threads, which was supposed to be about whether buying Applecare for a Watch was a good idea, degenerated swiftly into a morally murky discussion on the desirability of buying a Watch, along with Applecare, contriving to wreck it before the Applecare expired (but just after the successor model had been launched), obtain a replacement fraudulently, sell that on some place such as eBay, and use the funding thus acquired to fund a brand new Generation II Watch.

If only this degree of mental ingenuity - perhaps informed by something as boringly constraining and constricting as a conscience - could be applied in a more positive and productive context……

By the way, I agree - entirely - with your post. Very well said.

To the OP: Possession of a fashionable and glittery gadget does not confer upon you the right to circumvent moral standards.

And, as a former academic myself, by God, if I caught you, you'd be up before the Board of Examiners, and not only would you fail, you would be made repeat the year, and every exercise, essay, paper, and exam would be scrutinised with the proverbial fine comb from then on…….

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Then why raise this in the first place? Is it supposed to be a rhetorical question?


It's only fraudulent if the Watch isn't actually broken. I, personally, see no fundamentally moral or legal problem with purposefully breaking a device and filing an insurance claim. Apple wouldn't offer the service if it wasn't profitable. Unless you can provide documentation to the contrary, I'm almost 100% sure that to do so does not violate the terms of service of AppleCare+.

Furthermore, if you paid $99 and never used the service in the two year window, I see no reason why you should feel guilty about facilitating that. After all, you still have to pay the service charge.

Give me a ****ing break.
 
That statement alone tells us everything we need to know about you. I'll bet you are a huge cheater. Some day, when you are expected to actually know something you faked, it will come back to haunt you. But they then, you'll probably be in jail. We can only hope.

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No one as ***** as you could be in AP.

Not a big cheater because, obviously, where is the fun in that?

But honestly? You're response makes no reasonable sense to me. From an objective stand point, and being in law school now so I've been through highschool and college, the education system in this country is a joke. My most profound and beneficial experiences in college were resoundingly not in a classroom, which was generally a waste of time, but instead took place during my internships where I learn actual skills and valuable lessons. Any "factoid" that you could cheat about is something that, typically, you won't need to know and if you do it won't matter if you do a quick google to (re?)familiarize yourself with the information.

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Also, I should add that this definitely crossed my mind. Not "I'm going to use my Watch to cheat!", because, in law school, we are allowed to use outlines and it is all essay examinations so I actually need to know this stuff. But it crossed my mind because I plan to transition away from my traditional watch and Jawbone Up24 and just use my Watch from now on. But I was wondering if, maybe not this finals period but in the future, they would be considered an electronic a la a phone. Does it have safari on it? I would have to sacrifice my WATCH because it was also capable of doing other things.
 
Teacher will just tell students to take of their watches. Nothing to worry about. School change with technology.

Anyway, how would you do this? There isn't a notes app on the Apple Watch, is there?
 
I just will allow it on a chapter test, not on an Exam. when 40 kids are in a room built for 25 kids, and over half are sneezy, sniffling, and coughing, I figure the music helps them focus. I've never heard of a student recording a chapter's worth of notes in audio format on a device...my students are too lazy to cheat like that

You have no idea how much this would help me when testing. I have AD/HD and there's been countless times that I would love to be able to take my tests with music. It would help me focus. Then again, I'm in my 30's, so colleges really don't give a ****.
 
That depends..... If I use the watch to look up the date, since my tests usually ask this as the second question after my name, is that considered cheating?:confused:
 
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