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Anyway, how would you do this? There isn't a notes app on the Apple Watch, is there?

You could use the photos app if you have picture of notes/ a study guide. Or you could use digital touch if you know someone with a watch. That would be extremely easy IMO. Simply draw a number quick then a question mark and the person will reply with taps. Obviously 1 tap is A 2 taps is B and so on.
 
You can't fail me, since I won't cheat. And I'm in almost all AP classes, so that's an added plus.:D

techguy9, I'm not sure why that matters. All teachers know that AP students are the most untrustworthy, manipulate, cheating students around. The thing is they're VERY good at cheating.
 
A test that can be mastered with rote memorization is a useless way to check a student's level of understanding, and thus deserves to be cheated on.

Nowhere in real life does one have to memorize everything to be successful.
 
I bought a Pebble about a year and a half ago. The capability is easily there. I even contemplated it a couple times. But I know that if I'm caught cheating that I risk my future at my university (and in the real world more importantly) and it's simply not worth the risk.

If you can pull it off and disregard morals and ethics, go for it. But when I earn my degrees, I'll know that I didn't cheat to get there, and I'll be damn proud of that.
 
If smart (or dumb) wearable devices aren't banned already, I would remove mine and put it out of sight - rather be safe than sorry.
 
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Gosh. What an appalling thread title, and what a singularly dreadful idea.

I am beginning to think that the Watch threads might be even worse than the infamous iPhone threads.

One of the Watch threads, which was supposed to be about whether buying Applecare for a Watch was a good idea, degenerated swiftly into a morally murky discussion on the desirability of buying a Watch, along with Applecare, contriving to wreck it before the Applecare expired (but just after the successor model had been launched), obtain a replacement fraudulently, sell that on some place such as eBay, and use the funding thus acquired to fund a brand new Generation II Watch.

If only this degree of mental ingenuity - perhaps informed by something as boringly constraining and constricting as a conscience - could be applied in a more positive and productive context……

By the way, I agree - entirely - with your post. Very well said.

To the OP: Possession of a fashionable and glittery gadget does not confer upon you the right to circumvent moral standards.

And, as a former academic myself, by God, if I caught you, you'd be up before the Board of Examiners, and not only would you fail, you would be made repeat the year, and every exercise, essay, paper, and exam would be scrutinised with the proverbial fine comb from then on…….

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Then why raise this in the first place? Is it supposed to be a rhetorical question?

Marry me.
 
A test that can be mastered with rote memorization is a useless way to check a student's level of understanding, and thus deserves to be cheated on.

Nowhere in real life does one have to memorize everything to be successful.

yes, that's very true. We're encouraged to use short response and essay tests to determine comprehension. That said, sometimes with 185 students and limited time, it's reasonable to do objective tests. For instance, after our 2nd semester finals, we have 24 hours to grade all tests. Can't ask proper subjective questions, attend graduation, AND have the tests graded. So it becomes objective by default. Your comment about memorizing is also why students can always use study guides during my tests/exams (if they actually complete them)
 
One could argue that having access to the entirety of mankind's knowlege in your pocket is cheating.

Regardless of an outcome of any given test, if I'm unsure of something, I'll be looking it up.
 
Not sure why everyone is attacking the OP. The reason people ask these things on forums is as a means of exploring an idea, and hopefully purging in from their system without actually acting on it. An anonymous discussion online and the choice to actually pursue an action, are entirely different.

In any case, I don't see cheating off the watch as much easier than cheating by any other method. In my day, the big trick was hiding answers in a program on your Ti-84. I wasn't in HS when iPhones came around, but I am sure that was the next evolution.

With the watch, I am sure some people will try, most won't bother, and many that try will get caught.
 
They'll see you looking at your wrist and touching the display. :rolleyes:

On most cases they don't even have to look at it and just keep it under their sleeves. Use the digital touch. For example, on multiple choice test, they would get three taps on their wrist to tick the third choice. A 30 seconds pause would mean move to the next question.
 
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Kinda sad that this was even mentioned. Talk about misuse of technology....

Being a studen too, I can imagine in a few years it'll be "please turn off all cellular phones and watches please."

I don't plan on being a jerk with my Watch. Hope you don't plan on either.
 
Don't know about you, but when I sat my finals at university they took our phones off us to ensure we didn't cheat. I'm sure that these days they would also be looking for smart watches.
 
Good app to cheat

I found my preferred cheat sheet app: Textkraft Pocket gives me access to all my text docs in the cloud ... you never know what is finally tested ;) Ha!
 
I'm a university lecturer and smart watches have been banned from our exam halls for a couple of years now. If you are caught in possession of a mobile phone or smart watch once in the exam room you not only risk failing that exam but also being kicked off the course.
 
Fire up safari to get the answers.......oww wait !!!

You can ask Siri whatever you want , but it will open on your iPhone browser.... Darn!!!

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On most cases they don't even have to look at it and just keep it under their sleeves. Use the digital touch. For example, on multiple choice test, they would get three taps on their wrist to tick the third choice. A 30 seconds pause would mean move to the next question.

That would work. You just need a $350 investment, and pray you do not loose track which question you are on, to the person answering changes the answer at some point, or skips a question to later etc.

Though I like your thinking on this one .
 
The most that I would hope someone do with the Apple Watch is use it for notifications in case there is a family emergency. Please don't make this one of those things that can't be worn everywhere. It defeats the point of a watch.
 
Personally I would ban all phones from school premises full stop.

Or, let's be realistic, all phones must be turned off the moment you enter the school grounds and anyone found using any phone whilst on school premises will be reported.

Would make things a lot easier for everyone.
 
Personally I would ban all phones from school premises full stop.

Or, let's be realistic, all phones must be turned off the moment you enter the school grounds and anyone found using any phone whilst on school premises will be reported.

Would make things a lot easier for everyone.

The vast majority of schools (in my area anyway) do this already. I'm in a school which has a fairly relaxed policy, but generally we don't have any trouble and most of the students are well behaved. It's definitely the exception to have a policy which allows mobile phones to be used during lunch break etc rather being off at all times.

Though no idea why the OP thinks you'd even be allowed to take the Watch into the exam hall, never mind have the audacity to try and use it while there. All devices with any kind of user accessible storage are banned (apart from calculators where applicable of course) and you are instantly disqualified if you even just have one in your possession and someone finds out.
 
The amount of butt hurt educators on here further proves just how far behind education truly is. These devices should be embraced and not shunned.

The days of a pen and paper test are numbered and it's absolutely ridiculous how afraid of the technology the education system is.

I can't speak about other countries, but here in America the education system is a joke. There's no knowledge left in a class room. It's test test test test, and you leave having learned nothing. Instead of giving knowledge teachers are FORCED to follow a curriculum that does nothing but prepare for a test.

Sad really. Embrace the tech. Use it to teach and don't be afraid of change.

I'm glad I'm finished with school. I wouldn't cheat with it, that's dishonest. But I sure would hope to see the technology embraced in a class room.
 
I am interested -- how many teachers/professors are in here and waiting? One!

I'd imagine a few, on this thread alone. For my part, I used to be a college professor and taught history and politics for the best part of twenty years.

It's only fraudulent if the Watch isn't actually broken. I, personally, see no fundamentally moral or legal problem with purposefully breaking a device and filing an insurance claim. Apple wouldn't offer the service if it wasn't profitable. Unless you can provide documentation to the contrary, I'm almost 100% sure that to do so does not violate the terms of service of AppleCare+.

Furthermore, if you paid $99 and never used the service in the two year window, I see no reason why you should feel guilty about facilitating that. After all, you still have to pay the service charge.

Give me a ****ing break.

No break for such a post, and spare us the exasperated expletives as a feeble substitute for expressing yourself properly.

Firstly, it is irrelevant whether or not a service that Apple offers is profitable. Profitability does not excuse fraud, and is neither excuse nor justification for undermining the whole principle of insurance, and claiming legitimately - or, in this instance, illegitimately - on that insurance.

Besides, the worship of capital, not to mention its acquisition, flaunting and retention that I see in some of the posts Across The Pond lead me to the regrettable conclusion that this - admiration for wealth and capital - is the default setting of much of the value system of US society, so what is the problem with Apple being profitable?

Actually, I beg to differ with you and with the content of your post, as, sad to relate, I see a great many problems with 'purposefully' breaking a device and then filing a claim to benefit from this situation. Morally, it is disingenuous, because it is a deliberate act which would serve to undermine the very basis under which one can seek to claim.

In essence, it is a claim based on a lie. You are hardly going to approach Apple and say to them: "Hey, I smashed this because I think I am owed a better device out of the proceeds of the care plan because you are so profitable you won't notice it financially when you pay out." That is the truth.

However, it is a lie to try to argue that it was damaged accidentally, when it wasn't, when, in fact, you yourself 'purposefully' broke the device in order to make a claim based on falsely represented information.

Moreover, from a practical perspective, any success enjoyed by such morally dubious claims can - and will - only serve to make it more difficult and more expensive for those with genuine claims to succeed in proving their claim. In other words, your actions, and the actions of those who think as you do, will serve to make it harder - and more expensive, as premiums and costs of something like Applecare can only increase as a result of these sort of actions, behaviours, and conduct - for those who buy Applecare to use it as it was intended to be used, such as, for situations like accidental damage.

Give you an expletive deleted break? (Cue other emoticons). No, never. Instead, I'll give you a tongue lashing for your entitled and morally warped stance. How's that? (Cue: Exasperated emoticon, and no expletives).

Marry me.

That is an online first. For me, at any rate. And it has left me - for once - somewhat speechless…….



The amount of butt hurt educators on here further proves just how far behind education truly is. These devices should be embraced and not shunned.

The days of a pen and paper test are numbered and it's absolutely ridiculous how afraid of the technology the education system is.

I can't speak about other countries, but here in America the education system is a joke. There's no knowledge left in a class room. It's test test test test, and you leave having learned nothing. Instead of giving knowledge teachers are FORCED to follow a curriculum that does nothing but prepare for a test.

Sad really. Embrace the tech. Use it to teach and don't be afraid of change.

I'm glad I'm finished with school. I wouldn't cheat with it, that's dishonest. But I sure would hope to see the technology embraced in a class room.

I think you are missing the point when you rail against what you have described as 'butt hurt educators'.

(As I'm not from the US, I'm not au fait with all of the argot found there; what does that mean by the way? Does that mean what I think it might mean?)

Anyway, as a 'butt-hurt', or otherwise smarting-in-the-transom, pulsing-aches-in-the-posterior former educator, it is not that educators 'fear' technology. (And, if they do 'fear' it, they simply need to be educated in how to use it). Rather, it is that they, rightly, fear fraud and cheating in the classroom or the exam hall.

And, in that weird Venn diagram describing the intersection of technological change where ethics, technology and control all collide, there is something of an arms race between those who seek to use the advantages conferred by early adopters and early masters of this technology, and those who can't avail of it for whatever reason.

Thus, the challenge is to ensure - not that the technological changes don't benefit those who have access to them, it has to, that is the nature of change - but that this technological change doesn't benefit them unfairly, or unjustly. That they are not allowed to benefit illegally, or fraudulently, or wrongly, from this technology.

These who have been able to take advantage of these technological changes need not necessarily simply be the technologically proficient, but may instead, be merely well off and cashing in on what their means - or their parents' mean - can afford.

In turn, this may be contested by those who wish to ensure that such advantages are not used to the unfair advantage those self-same early adopters. And that means, too, that a further challenge is trying to ensure that those given the task of policing, or enforcing all this, are themselves sufficiently up to speed on what the technological changes entail that they have some idea of what is going on.

In other words, just because you are an early adopter does not mean that you can, or should, be able to use this technology to cheat your way to success in exams, and that is what the educators on this thread have - rightly - expressed concerns about.

Besides, there is a reason employers, professional bodes, and universities, all accept exam results as some sort of credential or a standard that has become recognised.

It is because - in my country at least - the setting, sitting, and marking of exams is known to be meticulous, objective and scrupulous, which means that the results can be accepted as valid. It means that those who have achieved grades in state wide exams - or exams based on standards and tests that are recognised state wide - can be said to have attained some sort of standard in some areas which are relatively objectively recognised by the simple fact of having been awarded the degree, diploma, or certificate. They are seen as an objective statement of standards of academic achievement, however imperfect or flawed the educational system may be that gave rise to them.

That means that if a situation arises where technology can be used as a tool to aid fraud in sitting exams, much of the credibility of the credentials themselves will come under scrutiny.

Technology - in its place - is brilliant and transformative - in the classroom. And, in itself, and not just as an aid to learning, it has a huge role. But - and this is a key qualification and distinction - it is not the point of education. Rather, it is a tool, a facilitator, every bit as much as quills, or pen and paper, books, chalk, projectors, black boards, maps, tape recorders, any other means or device used to record, store, and retrieve data.

Re pen and paper, I see a huge future for them; in fact, as pen and paper constitute a much more reliable 'paper trail' than do some electronic records, I can see a situation where both will be used, and will need to be used, alongside one another for some time.

For that matter, I have never understood the derisive dismissal of 'pen and paper' (or any other, older system of recording, or of information storage) by devotees of a newer system. They both have their strengths; and weaknesses. I'd recommend that people learn to use both in their respective place, and learn to master each and every one of them.
 
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Sigh. The more things change, the more they stay the same. I remember reading similar debates when I was a student when we started making the switchover from stone tablets to papyrus scrolls. It was amazing how inventive those desperate students could be by imprinting notes into the grain of the scrolls that would elude detection from the exam proctors.
 
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