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When I first got my MacBook Pro, I upgraded to Maverick. Then I updated to Yosemeti and hated it so bad I went back to the Apple store and had Maverick reinstalled.

I can't get certain free apps now unless I upgrade past 10.9 - anyone regret updating to High Sierra? Thanks.
 
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High Sierra ruined the play/pause button! I have really only had one major complaint with the Mac operating system ever and this is it.

Play music in iTunes, play pause works great. Then I'll start a video in safari, play/pause takes over there, no regard for pausing iTunes so I can listen to what is now happening in Safari. Switch spaces to iTunes, it is now the active program, play/pause is still tide to safari two spaces and the inactive program away. I have to pause it with the GUI element. OK, switch back over to Safari, watch the video, cool, close the tab the video was in, (no videos exist in Safari anymore) and play/pause is still trying to pause a now non-existent safari video. iTunes does not exist in the eyes of the play/pause button.

High Sierra in conjunction with Safari has kidnapped the play/pause button and given it Stockholm Syndrome.

It is seriously infuriating.

All I want is an option for the play/pause button to be solely tied to media players (e.g. iTunes/VLC/DVD Player) (in essence, how it worked for forever ago up to and including Mac OS Sierra).
 
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High Sierra ruined the play/pause button! I have really only had one major complaint with the Mac operating system ever and this is it.

Play music in iTunes, play pause works great. Then I'll start a video in safari, play/pause takes over there, no regard for pausing iTunes so I can listen to what is now happening in Safari. Switch spaces to iTunes, it is now the active program, play/pause is still tide to safari two spaces and the inactive program away. I have to pause it with the GUI element. OK, switch back over to Safari, watch the video, cool, close the tab the video was in, (no videos exist in Safari anymore) and play/pause is still trying to pause a now non-existent safari video. iTunes does not exist in the eyes of the play/pause button.

High Sierra in conjunction with Safari has kidnapped the play/pause button and given it Stockholm Syndrome.

It is seriously infuriating.

All I want is an option for the play/pause button to be solely tied to media players (e.g. iTunes/VLC/DVD Player) (in essence, how it worked for forever ago up to and including Mac OS Sierra).

Yes, I have seen this behavior as well. However it seems after a recent update, my play/pause button becomes active with iTunes again once I close the page with a video...Not sure if the Touch Bar has anything to do with it...(note I am not referring to the iTunes specific controls which I can always access...im referring to MacOS's generic play pause button which I added to my control strip...should behave the same as yours in theory.)
 
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I've had a lot more crashes on High Sierra than any other version of macOs that I have tried, and the logs are now very confusing to read, APFS does not bring me any advantages that i notice, but does make a lot of software incompatible or buggy. Icloud is extra annoying and they spent time hiding more files that i need, Other than that there has been no big down or upsides to the high sierra upgrade for me (clean install)
Feels a bit like beeing back on windows 10 years ago with the way Apple is pushing some services.
Cant say i'm decidedly unhappy to work on high sierra, but certainly not happy either.
 
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10.13.3 is surely the best/most stable version of High Sierra thus far, but I'm still not thrilled about my significantly reduced battery life from Sierra nor some of the other things posted above.

Honestly, see if you can get El Capitan. I didn't have any complaints about it.
 
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I just took my nMP back to Sierra from HS. I had issues with the video card drivers, printers, and just today had problems with my contacts not syncing with the cloud. Other little niggles have just made me unhappy so back to Sierra. So far the video issue and the printer problems seem to be gone. The contacts syncing I'm not sure that was even HS fault but it pushed me over the edge.
 
This is very interesting...haven't ever gotten the beach ball on mine...granted only have had it for a week. What browser are you using?
Safari because I like using an external monitor as well...If I use chrome, it'll often get hot and turn the fans on.
 
My story is similar to yours. I went from Snow Leopard (10.6) though to Mavericks (10.9)…..all great. I thought Yosemite (10.10) and El Capitan (10.11) were horrible and went back to Mavs with the intention of staying there for as long as necessary. This last fall I became concerned about the lack of security updates for Mavs and felt I was being left behind, from a security standpoint. I decided to start testing the Public Beta of High Sierra, starting with PB6. Everything was great for me, no problems whatsoever right through to the main release. I upgraded my main partition to High Sierra and everything has been and still is great, no problems at all. See my sig. for hardware details (MBP).
 
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No "must haves" in High Sierra IMO. Today's method of thinking is: if it's free, it's good to upgrade. Well, I would argue, "if it's not broke, don't fix it". Every OS upgrade seems to slow stuff down until you have to upgrade your hardware. The exception is Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion. These were fast OSes. In my opinion, the last significant update was Mountain Lion ( adds Notes, Reminder (now separate form Mail and Calendar), Notification Centre, Messages, Dictation, Game Centre, Air Play, Power Nap, iCal and iMessage become Calendar and Messages).
 
Brand new MBP 15 2017, suddenly refused to boot with that insane « update package error » barely used it theses week but a brand new system crashing for now reason and I had to clean install high sierra again ....
Now getting duplicates of old computers in my keychain showing my email accounts as inactive....
Disappointed so far about high sierra experience, for me Apple have cut their budgets on MacOS, see how many bugs these last few weeks
 
Currently on Sierra, thinking about updating to HS. I have not updated because I have a fusion drive, I have heard conflicting comments on whether it is "safe" to update to HS with a Fusion drive. I believe the file system stays the same and NOT updated to APFS. Anyone with a Fusion drive that updated to HS, I would appreciate your recommendation on updating. Thanks
 
After upgraded to High Sierra I now have slightly longer boot times but it seems that most Finder operations are faster, things like opening Finder windows is a little snappier. The only odd things I have noticed is some programs have a slight delay when I go to type something but it is only when I first start typing there is a delay, after that it there is no delay.
 
I don't like HS for a couple of reasons:
  1. I can't even install 10.13 on my 2011 iMac because it has a dual-SSD RAID0 1TB boot drive. I used Apple's Disk Utility to create the volume using 10.12, and now, 10.13.3 still refuses to install on it.

  2. I DID install 10.13 on my 2013 Macbook Pro, and it has been running photolibraryd on my 6200 photo library for about a month now. It WILL NOT download additional photos from my photo stream until it finishes analyzing every picture and video, and uploads them to iCloud, but it seems to be stuck. So I'm being held hostage by Photos.
10.12.6 ran perfectly. I regret this.
 
I don't like HS for a couple of reasons:
  1. I can't even install 10.13 on my 2011 iMac because it has a dual-SSD RAID0 1TB boot drive. I used Apple's Disk Utility to create the volume using 10.12, and now, 10.13.3 still refuses to install on it.

  2. I DID install 10.13 on my 2013 Macbook Pro, and it has been running photolibraryd on my 6200 photo library for about a month now. It WILL NOT download additional photos from my photo stream until it finishes analyzing every picture and video, and uploads them to iCloud, but it seems to be stuck. So I'm being held hostage by Photos.
10.12.6 ran perfectly. I regret this.
lots of Apple services seems very "heavy handed" with how it deals with your stuff, especially when something does not work the first time. Not sure if it's simply better avoid them at this point
 
10.13.3 fixed most of my issues with 10.13.0, 10.13.1, 10.13.2.
But I am getting the spinning ball and delay while trying to log-in with TouchID on my 2017 MBP.
Never had this issue before on 10.12.6. It can be quite annoying when it happens, as it'll delay login for 1-2 minutes, and just hover on the login screen while spinning the ball.
 
When I used the old Apple file system, encryption would take days for a 4 TB drive. With the new file system, the encryption seems to be done immediately. The method that was used to monitor encryption is different but I don't see anything that tells me that it is still running.

I save disk space on using the new codec for mp4 videos and I like that videos don't autoplay in Safari. The other new features I don't really use but I do plan to start using Photos this year and get everything organized. Right now it is a mess.

Installed this on 5 Macs with the oldest one from 2012.
 
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