Many of us don't want iPhone. Apples failure to update iPT specs just loses sales. I would have purchased two new updated iPT by now but they don't exist.
Apple may not be able to innovate anymore but there is no excuse for not updating.
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iPod touch Is Apple going to release a 6th gen iPod touch? and why is Apple still
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Many of us don't want iPhone. Apples failure to update iPT specs just loses sales. I would have purchased two new updated iPT by now but they don't exist.
Apple may not be able to innovate anymore but there is no excuse for not updating.
It's a small pocket device for playing music, watching video and playing games where you flick small birds at small pigs. It's not a supercomputer. It's fine.
SusanK said:
Some people don't want a Mac Pro. I want a Mac mini with an 8 core processor, 6 USB 2 ports and two graphics cards. By not releasing this configuration, Apple are losing sales and not innovating.
Stupid argument.
I agree mostly, the CPU in the A5 is pretty weak now, and 512MB RAM isn't much, but the GPU was in is still pretty powerful. It can run any game you throw at it, whereas the A4 just slugs along.
The A5 was the first SoC Apple made that focused on real gaming; the A4 was all about the 1GHz tick on the back of the box.
Source: My iPhone 4S and iPad 2
iPod Touch is probably dead
I really think the iPod Touch is pretty much dead now, since iPhones do the same thing as well as call people. Plus iTunes is not doing so well now with Spotify and Pandora streaming music. This defeats the purpose of an iPod
I really think the iPod Touch is pretty much dead now, since iPhones do the same thing as well as call people. Plus iTunes is not doing so well now with Spotify and Pandora streaming music. This defeats the purpose of an iPod
I love how people say that iTunes and the iPod Touch are dead, despite millions upon millions of units selling with continued enormous profit margins for Apple, all while keeping competitors in multiple markets in check with this supposedly "dead" device.
Please.
Please.
There's a lot of discussion about the A5 SOC in relation to gaming and "super computer applications", but what about iOS7? iOS7 is is struggling to run on the most expensive iPod you can buy, stuttering as you scroll through a large music collection. This alone calls for a hardware upgrade.
This has nothing to do with Apple "not being able to innovate". If we were to listen to those who repeat that tired old line, the last time Apple innovated was, well... never. Seriously, what was the original Macintosh but a computer with an interface idea stolen from Xerox? What was the original iPhone but a touchscreen smartphone with half the features of a contemporary Windows Mobile device?
In any case, I suspect the amount of sales that Apple loses from the lack of an updated iPod touch is pretty small. Combined with the slim margins, they don't have much of an incentive to keep them updated.
This. I personally hate being tied to a phone contract/bill when I make maybe one call a week.
According to MacRumors' Buyer's Guide, the iPod Touch 5 has been updated two times since it first came out. Boggles my mind that they call lowering the price an upgrade. The earlier "upgrade" was for removing the camera. Yes, Apple removes something and MRs calls it an upgrade.
The 5th gen has 512MB of RAM. That's on the verge of being crazy LOW. Well, for that price it's too low.
The Nokia 520 has 512MB of RAM and similar CPU performance and very likely a better camera and it sells for $60. I had a coupon and got one for $35. I wanted an Apple product but I don't pay crazy prices for anything.
My prediction for this year...........
No New iPod Touch from
.
The 5th gen has 512MB of RAM. That's on the verge of being crazy LOW. Well, for that price it's too low.
The Nokia 520 has 512MB of RAM and similar CPU performance and very likely a better camera and it sells for $60. I had a coupon and got one for $35. I wanted an Apple product but I don't pay crazy prices for anything.
My prediction for this year...........
No New iPod Touch from
. The same reason that the iPod Classic has not become any cheaper for years.
Because there is literally zero competition in the media player market. Apple has become the only game in town, so there is no incentive to reduce price. People that want it will still buy it.
Probably not this year maybe. They just added a 16gb right?
And I highly doubt if it will be discontinued. Just because they aren't doing as well as before; doesn't mean they still aren't selling. So yea..
And I highly doubt if it will be discontinued. Just because they aren't doing as well as before; doesn't mean they still aren't selling. So yea..
According to MacRumors' Buyer's Guide, the iPod Touch 5 has been updated two times since it first came out. Boggles my mind that they call lowering the price an upgrade. The earlier "upgrade" was for removing the camera. Yes, Apple removes something and MRs calls it an upgrade.
The 5th gen has 512MB of RAM. That's on the verge of being crazy LOW. Well, for that price it's too low.
The Nokia 520 has 512MB of RAM and similar CPU performance and very likely a better camera and it sells for $60. I had a coupon and got one for $35. I wanted an Apple product but I don't pay crazy prices for anything.
My prediction for this year...........
No New iPod Touch from
I'd rather pay $300 for a 64GB touch than be paid $30 to take a Nokia 520.
And to say that it has a better camera is laughable. I guarantee you aren't seeing pics from a Nokia 520 in any photography competitions.
Photography competitions???
WT EFFF are you on. An iPod Touch HAHAHAAA.
It isn't laughable. Laughable would be if I said the iPod Touch 4 camera was better than the the 5th gen. If one camera is close in performance to another, choosing the wrong one(if I am wrong) isn't laughable.
Competitions... WTBLEEP are you on!
PS. I guess they could compete with each other.
Competitions????
Really?
WOW.
So get an iPhone but don't buy a contract.
That's what I did. If I want to use it as a phone, I put a sim in it.
Photography competitions???
WT EFFF are you on. An iPod Touch HAHAHAAA.
It isn't laughable. Laughable would be if I said the iPod Touch 4 camera was better than the the 5th gen. If one camera is close in performance to another, choosing the wrong one(if I am wrong) isn't laughable.
Competitions... WTBLEEP are you on!
PS. I guess they could compete with each other.
Competitions????
Really?
WOW.
https://www.ippawards.com/index.html
Not only is the iPod Touch eligible to enter with, but so are iPads. Throw your little fit all you want, troll.
ipod!
Like many, I don't find the touch model iPod that interesting either. What I'd like to see is a newer, larger capacity classic or perhaps a touch model with a hard drive option - that would be pretty neat.
Like many, I don't find the touch model iPod that interesting either. What I'd like to see is a newer, larger capacity classic or perhaps a touch model with a hard drive option - that would be pretty neat.
I really think the iPod Touch still serves a role at Apple. I mean look at the new iPads and the alleged design for the new iPhone 6
I am inclined to think that they will not because:
- They JUST changed pricing on the 32/64GB models
- They JUST replaced the 16GB Rear-Camera-Less Black/Silver model with 16GB versions of the 32/64GB models
- There have not been leaks of new iPod touch parts in the way that there were by this time two years ago (similarly no word on whether a future touch would remain at 4", or scale up to 4.7" or even 5.5", at which point it becomes very large for a non-classic iPod)
- The iPod business is on the decline
- In most countries, there is little need for an iPod touch that isn't served by an iPhone; owning an iPhone can make owning an iPod touch redundant.
I am inclined to think that they will because:
- They still continue to do SOMETHING to the iPod touch line each year, albeit less significant less often (even in 2011 and 2013, we got color changes/options that weren't there before).
- Apple still views the iPod touch as part of the iOS platform and ecosystem and believes that it is still responsible for a portion of iOS hardware success each year, albeit a minority portion
- The iPod touch isn't like the other iPods in terms of its marketing and its maintenance by Apple
- AppleCare+ for iPod touch and iPod classic just debuted less than a year ago; someone high up at Apple corporate made a conscious decision to do so; it would be very odd if this decision was done just prior to the discontinuation of either device.
As for why Apple is still selling such a device today with an A5 processor?
My guess is that they unveiled it one processor generation behind because they couldn't cram an A6 in there due to the heat it supposedly caused. The iPhone 5 (and 5c, by extension) didn't have these problems. Similarly, I'm going to guess that this is also why the first generation iPad mini was also stuck with an A5.
As for why they couldn't get an A7 in an updated version of the current generation iPod touch, given that the A7 is supposedly much more thermally efficient, I have no clue. My honest guess is that they thought that they didn't need to. Just like they neglected to give the fourth generation iPod touch an A5 when they gave it a while bezel in 2011. It could be that they are trying to phase it out and that they feel that staggering its updates out like this could be the best way to transition users away from it. My guess is that if they don't update the touch come this fall, they will succeed in transitioning users away as the iPhones that are due out will really be TOO MUCH better.
Really, what they ought to do is to scrap all four iPod lines in favor of a single iPod line. Give it the iPhone 4S's 3.5" retina panel and touch screen, give it either a locked down version of iOS sans the app store or a firmware that is otherwise just as functional. Don't give it WiFi; at best, give it a cellular plan akin to the very first generation e-ink Kindle (i.e. always on, always free, only for use with the iTunes store). Give it 256GB of Flash/SSD storage (via a 1.8" SATA drive if you must), throw in the accelerometers and some external volume buttons and a decent on-board speaker, and sell it for $300. Ride that wave for two years; bump it up to 512GB; ride that wave for two more years, and then discontinue it.
I've been SUPER disappointed ever since Apple quit taking the iPod touch seriously. It sells big numbers, and just feels super cheap that it lags so many years behind the iPhone now.
I guess the whole point is pushing people to buy an iPhone or iPad...but basically $400 more just seems...excessive.
I wish they'd at least keep them one generation behind. Like give it 1GB of RAM and Swift/triple SGX 543 or whatever it was LAST year. Instead I don't even know if it's getting that THIS year.
I guess the whole point is pushing people to buy an iPhone or iPad...but basically $400 more just seems...excessive.
I wish they'd at least keep them one generation behind. Like give it 1GB of RAM and Swift/triple SGX 543 or whatever it was LAST year. Instead I don't even know if it's getting that THIS year.
I was thinking about the itouch and Apple could just replace the A5 SoC card with the A7 SoC card and leave everything else the same. Cost would be like $10 more! And new model itouch! Will Apple do that? I don't think so because they have already refresh the itouch for this year this month! Crazy I know!
They should have switched to Swift/4th gen platform LAST year, but I'm not even confident they'll switch THIS year. I'm virtually 100% certain they WON'T switch to Cyclone/5th gen this year though.
You're right, these SOCs aren't very expensive, but for years now they've loved keeping this thing massively outdated :-/
They did lower the 32GB from $300 to $250, making the line $200 for 16GB, $250 for 32GB, $300 for 64GB.
As for why they haven't updated it, and still sell it while it is two hardware generations behind, my guess is that they do it because they can. It's a bummer; but it sort of makes sense.
I think if it were updated it would have the A6, The A6 chip in the iPhone 5 and 5c ran iOS 6 well, AND iOS 7 is super smooth still. And as of current iOS 8 build still VERY fluid. Apple could update the touch with iOS 8 and the A6 and the device would / should have support into iOS 10, considering the A5 devices are still kicking.