Derwinator
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Nope - it's a back to school deal. There's been no evidence of an updated iPod Touch anytime soon that I can find.
iPod touch Is Apple going to release a 6th gen iPod touch? and why is Apple still
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Nope - it's a back to school deal. There's been no evidence of an updated iPod Touch anytime soon that I can find.
SpyderBite
macrumors 65816
Yup. This ^^
I would have liked to see a 5.5" iPod touch but there's no evidence of such an animal.
Plutonius
macrumors G3
The problem is that the stores have no idea at all when the upgrades are coming (otherwise it would be leaked). It's much more likely that Staples is stuck with a large inventory of Touch 6 that isn't selling.
spicynujac
macrumors 6502
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2013/01/13/the-mythical-budget-iphone-mini-would-cost-2000/
For the iPhone 5 16GB the total you are committed to paying now is between $2,275 and $5,755.
I'd like to add that these figures do NOT include taxes which in my experience are around 15%-20% of the total bill ($340 to $455!???)
Keep in mind, before the service plans are factored into account, to buy an iPhone one is paying three times the cost of an iPod Touch.
I'd argue that the iPod does not have the same kind of appeal because Apple hasn't updated it to keep up with the iPhone (and competitors--no the ipod doesn't really have a good true competitor but when you consider a Nokia Lumia or Google Nexus can be cheaper than an iPod, those are competing devices). When my 4th gen ipod touch came out in 2010, it had basically the same specs as the iPhone 4 (retina display, A4 chip, front and rear cameras, all of which were new features shared by both the iPhone and the iPod, and were new features not offered before on any device). The Touch lacked only the GPS chip and compass (battery life was a bit smaller, but performance likely equivalent considering the high battery usage of mobile data chips).
As I recall, the sales numbers were estimated at being roughly equivalent for iPhone vs iPod touch+iPad. Today, the iPhone greatly outsells the iPod Touch. It's a little bit chicken and egg, since we don't know how many more iPod Touches would have been sold had they been updated (the camera on mine for instance is abysmal and battery life is poor), but I'd argue that that sales ratio could have been maintained if the product was still on par with the phone offering (today the current iPod touch has a processor two generations older than the current iPhone, and is in no way equivalent to an iPhone 5c/s minus the cellular radio).
For the record, I own an iPad Air, and love it. It's a great device, and it costs less than an iPhone! It has the latest, greatest processor, and all the newest features that Apple offers (except the thumb scanner which I would never use as I don't lock my devices). The Air has a beautiful big screen and is far superior to a phone for me, and costs less! Now, just make that in a smaller form factor for less money, and call it the iPod Touch. THAT is what the Touch used to be.
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caribou123
macrumors member
Two things.
1) There was NO reported evidence of an updated iPod Touch before the last model update. (You can prove me wrong by posting a link to a post here showing the evidence (not rumor) of the 5th Generation iPod Touch coming). The fact is that there is so much emphasis on the iPhone, that no one even cares enough to hunt for scoops on a new iPod Touch.
2) "Limited Supplies" would not be the case for a back to school sales at Staples.
jedisaga
macrumors 6502
Actually, that's not true. Leading up to the IPT5 release, everyone speculated about if Apple was releasing a new model. If you "Google", you'll find a lot of speculation, but there wasn't anything definitive until days before Apple's official announcement.
J
You are not paying 2000 for the iPhone. The iPhone has its cost and the rest is service. If you have a non iPhone you are still paying for the phone service.Oooo-kay... !
Is a 2-years contract included in your Mac Pro configuration ? Because it is on an iPhone.
You either pay $250 for an iPod Touch with an old configuration, or you pay around $2 000 for an iPhone.
Derwinator
macrumors member
Oh, c'mon - REALLY? Please try a little harder:
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/2...ller-ipod-touch-front-panel-iphone-5-cameras/
http://www.cultofmac.com/187020/lea...might-be-getting-a-serious-upgrade-this-year/
I vividly recall lots of leaked parts and details on the current gen iPod Touch ahead of it's release. There was a huge mystery surrounding the hole at the bottom back of cases before someone found out it was for the iLoop carrying strap.
All I'm saying is that if we were to see an updated iPod Touch this fall don't you think there would be at least a few parts or details leaked? There hasn't been anything that I've seen so far.
PsykX
macrumors 68040
I could also buy a $250 iPod Touch and a $0 smartphone with a $35/month plan. Try to find a plan cheaper than $75/month in Canada for the iPhone. I'm paying $55/month and I feel like I'm ripping off the company, because I was able to bargain like a b*tch. Does it give you an idea of how it works here ? My iPhone 5, at then end of my contract, will have cost me $2,656, taxes included. For regular people, the same thing as me, is worth $3,484.
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And on some other note, if we're only developers, how are we supposed to test our apps on this hardware (old GPS, low memory, slow CPU, a smaller screen when iPhone 6 comes out, etc.) ? And we'd still have to support this hardware because it's still the latest iPod Touch available ? Come on...
mangomind
macrumors 6502a
This year, notice how iPhone 6 parts have leaked the most, and iPad parts have leaked the second most. Any new Macs, the iWatch, and the iPod touch have not had their parts leaked.
Is it coincidental that Apple's most-leaked upcoming devices line up with Apple's most popular, highest revenue devices? And that these devices are the ones with the most consumer interest? And that they are also obviously the devices that are assembled in the most factories?
At this time two years ago, the iPod brand was 250% more popular. Now, the iPod touch accounts for less than 1% of Apple's revenue. This can explain the lack of leaks for the next iPod touch.
The iPod touch is still the cheapest and easiest entry into Apple's ecosystem. Apple still needs such a device. The next iPod touch will come this fall.
Is it coincidental that Apple's most-leaked upcoming devices line up with Apple's most popular, highest revenue devices? And that these devices are the ones with the most consumer interest? And that they are also obviously the devices that are assembled in the most factories?
At this time two years ago, the iPod brand was 250% more popular. Now, the iPod touch accounts for less than 1% of Apple's revenue. This can explain the lack of leaks for the next iPod touch.
The iPod touch is still the cheapest and easiest entry into Apple's ecosystem. Apple still needs such a device. The next iPod touch will come this fall.
juanrp
macrumors 6502a
I don't see why not....the iPod touch was my first apple device and entrance to the apple ecosystem.
I do see the iPod touch being held back AGAIN like the 5G, with an A5 chip that will become an iPod touch 4th gen with iOS 6 when iOS 8 comes out. It will probably be crippled like that.
I won't buy another one, though.
I do see the iPod touch being held back AGAIN like the 5G, with an A5 chip that will become an iPod touch 4th gen with iOS 6 when iOS 8 comes out. It will probably be crippled like that.
I won't buy another one, though.
Plutonius
macrumors G3
Too much is being released this fall to have any time for the Touch. The Touch 6 will come out the spring at the earliest when not much is going on.
mangomind
macrumors 6502a
Is your argument about a lack of Apple engineers to design the iPod touch? This is wrong. Every component and the actual design for the iPod touch has already been developed. It would be very easy for a small team of Apple engineers to make the next iPod touch. Here is an example: First take the iPhone 6 design, remove the cellular radio, and make the battery smaller. With this done, the iPod touch would be slightly thinner than the iPhone 6. Finally, change the A8 processor to an A7, add an iPod touch loophole, and add iPod touch back colors. Done.
Plus, look how easy it is for Apple to have a cellular/wifi iPad and a wifi-only iPad. Just remove the cellular radio. That is all that is necessary for Apple to make an iPhone into an iPod touch.
Is your argument about a new iPod touch stressing Apple's supply chain? This is wrong. The next iPod touch will use components from the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 5s, however, this is not a problem. For every one iPod touch Apple sells, it sells 30 iPhones.
Your argument is invalid.
Plutonius
macrumors G3
Only a few more months and I expect you to post you were wrong in this thread when the Touch 6 isn't released this fall
.Your iPhone didn't cost that much. Separate the service from the phone. My 5s cost me $750. My service is $45 a month. No matter what smartphone I used , I would still be spending $45 a month.
PsykX
macrumors 68040
I know it's possible to buy an iPhone without the service. But honestly, who does that, except probably a few members of this forum ? So no, don't separate the service from the phone. The product is a phone and is meant to be bought as a phone.
It does not justify not updating the iPod Touch. It's not a key product anymore, I get it. But the engineering plans are done : it's the iPhone ! Take that, strip a few parts off, and call it iPod.
Derwinator
macrumors member
I was also in the "them iPhones cost too much" crowd until I found out that barely used like-new 5 and 5c/5s models can be had for about $250. You can add free 4G LTE Sprint service for low usage users from Freedompop or cheap higher usage plans from Ting. I've got mine and my daughter's iPhone 5's on Ting for $32 a month. About what I paid for service on two Tracfones previously. She mostly sends texts and I make a handful of calls and use about 450MB of data every month. Very affordable.
iolinux333
macrumors 68000
Nevermind
spicynujac
macrumors 6502
Where? Craigslist shows $300 to $350 here, and the lower priced phones are all Sprint (I prefer GSM so I have my choice of carriers).
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Nooooo don't ruin the ipod again with an inferior processor. If I am going to replace my 4th gen iPod Touch (which had top of the line processor) it will be with another Touch with a top of the line processor.
What do you expect to be leaked in a Mac? It's pretty hard to pocket a 27" iMac.
It's not even clear that the iWatch exists!
Derwinator
macrumors member
Amazon.com marketplace sellers - I prefer to buy through Amazon because i get buyer protection on my purchases. Admittedly I bought a Sprint iPhone 5 but that phone is actually both CDMA and GSM.
raccoonboy
macrumors 6502a
I think update ipod touch could come.
Touch 5 already can not play all games now. I have a 4s with same chip and game play stutter at time.
Touch 5 already can not play all games now. I have a 4s with same chip and game play stutter at time.
Shanghaichica
macrumors G5
Maybe but I think it will get the A6 chip. Nothing more.