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even if an IpT6 is in the works, the question is, will it be any good? At minimum, I'd like to see at least a 4.7" screen, A7 processor, 1 GB RAM, and keep the same price point.
 
5.5 iPt?

I would love to see an updated ipod touch. I need one since cracking the screen of the 4th gen. Anyone think they'd do a 5.5 iPt?
 
I have a thought, and I think this is the most likely scenario right now. Apple has just now caught up with iPhone 6 demand. So now Apple could produce a new iPod touch that is modeled on the iPhone 6. It is plausible that an iPod touch 6, the iPad mini 4, and the iPad pro could be announced during an event in April/May. The iPod touch 6 and iPad mini 4 would include the A8 chip, and the iPad pro would include the A9 chip. This would happen because the A9 chip started production in December, and the A8 and other past chips started production much later. This gives Apple the opportunity to bump out the last remaining A5 devices (the iPod touch 5 and the iPad mini 1) before the WWDC announcement of iOS 9.

Apple released the 4th gen touch three months after releasing the iPhone 4 and released the 5th gen touch one month after releasing the iPhone 5. Apple released the nth iPod touch when the nth iPhone was being sold. As of last fall, Apple has now adopted the numbering system for all iOS devices (e.g. iPad mini 3, iPhone 6). It makes sense for Apple to release the iPod touch 4 when the iPhone 4 is sold, the iPod touch 5 when the iPhone 5 is sold, and the iPod touch 6 when the iPhone 6 is sold.

If Apple would ever want to upgrade the iPod touch, between April and this fall would be the perfect time to do so.

While I'd love for these predictions to come through, I don't think they will. The iPad mini 4 could materialize. There are rumors to support this and Apple could've done the lackluster update of the iPad mini 3 just to have SOMETHING out at the same time as the iPad Air 2 that isn't what they introduced the year previous.

Otherwise, they have no incentive to update the iPod touch or do anything with it other than discontinue it, especially if it's apt to not receive iOS 9 later this year.
 
If it's not getting OS 9, we will know by the start of the summer. If Apple doesn't discontinue the Touch 5 or release a Touch 6 by then, the Touch 5 will run OS 9 (probably badly).

I feel like the scenario of not discontinuing the 5th generation iPod touch and not releasing a sixth generation iPod touch scenario is sort of unlikely. Though, I suppose it'd be even weirder if they kept selling it and didn't let it into iOS 9. Still though, performance with iOS 8 is bad enough and it's bad across all of the other A5-based devices. I can't imagine they'll be able to advance the OS any while maintaining support for the old CPU.
 
If it's not getting OS 9, we will know by the start of the summer. If Apple doesn't discontinue the Touch 5 or release a Touch 6 by then, the Touch 5 will run OS 9 (probably badly).

Unless iOS 9 is a "snow leopard" update, I really really hope it is! iOS 7 threw Apple into a hole. iOS 8 dug that hole deeper, with all the bugs and lags (PARTICULARLY IPADS)
 
I hope iOS 9 it's a big (ars)hole ... so Apple would think better about this mad race where they are... slowing and slowing devices...
 
If it has an A7, it will have a 4" screen.
What was the reasoning behind this again?

I feel like the scenario of not discontinuing the 5th generation iPod touch and not releasing a sixth generation iPod touch scenario is sort of unlikely. Though, I suppose it'd be even weirder if they kept selling it and didn't let it into iOS 9. Still though, performance with iOS 8 is bad enough and it's bad across all of the other A5-based devices. I can't imagine they'll be able to advance the OS any while maintaining support for the old CPU.
Unless it's optimized, yeah, putting ios8 on a IpT5 was bad enough, let alone whatever ios9 might be.
 
Unless it's optimized, yeah, putting ios8 on a IpT5 was bad enough, let alone whatever ios9 might be.

I really hope that iOS 9 is just a giant bug-fixing and performance-enhancing update, like Snow Leapard was on OS X. iOS currently is in huge need of it, especially on iPad.

I also hope they carry on the iPod Touch line, I don't think the people over at Apple really realize how important it is. iPod Touch usually gets into the hands of kids. So pretty much, the kids get comfortable with iOS at a young age and grow up to want iPhones. Only reason I think I really got into iOS was because I was gifted a second gen iPod Touch when I was younger. Then I got a 5th gen on release when I was 12 (That thing was incredible on iOS 6). From there I was hooked. I ended up getting a mini 2 shortly before I turned 14, and then I wanted an iPhone to accompany that months later. So approximately $1000 has been sapped from me just from that first iPod touch. (No, my parents didn't by all this for me after begging for it, I spent my own money on it.) On top of that, I'm also hooked into Apple's ecosystem now, so I foresee myself staying here, upgrading my devices to newer Apple products in the future. Which means more money for them. Lovely.

The iPod however does typically have a generation behind in specs which translates to A8+1GB of RAM, not sure what the screen would be if that happens. However since Apple Watch is being released in the Spring, and potentially an iPad Pro/iPad Air Plus, we could see an iPod Touch being thrown in as well. So that would make Apple's release cycles become Apple Watch, iPad Pro, iPod Touch in Spring (March-April) iPhone in September, iPad/Mac in October. If an iPod touch happens in Spring, it will probably have an A7 chip/1GB of RAM with a 4" screen because that's what would be considered one-generation-old specs at that time. Possibly the iPhone 4S/iPhone 5 camera will be thrown in, too. To me, this seems to be the safest prediction for the iPod Touch at this point. I have a bad feeling it could possibly be thrown out though. It hasn't been updated for almost 3 years now, and it will be close to an iPhone "S" model. No iPod Touch has ever been paired with an iPhone "S" model. The more I try to predict this, the more confused I feel on what might actually happen.
 
........... If an iPod touch happens in Spring, it will probably have an A7 chip/1GB of RAM with a 4" screen because that's what would be considered one-generation-old specs at that time. Possibly the iPhone 4S/iPhone 5 camera will be thrown in, too. To me, this seems to be the safest prediction for the iPod Touch at this point. I have a bad feeling it could possibly be thrown out though. It hasn't been updated for almost 3 years now, and it will be close to an iPhone "S" model. No iPod Touch has ever been paired with an iPhone "S" model. The more I try to predict this, the more confused I feel on what might actually happen.
Ohh, one gen behind from the Iph6... as opposed to the IpT5 which was 1 gen behind the Iph5s? Well, they can always 'tweak it' so it's one behind the Iph6s, and have the 4.7" screen. If they put a 4" screen in the IpT6, then I'll check back when/if the IpT7 comes out, b/c the main reason I got an IpT5 was b/c of the larger, 4" screen.
 
Unless iOS 9 is a "snow leopard" update, I really really hope it is! iOS 7 threw Apple into a hole. iOS 8 dug that hole deeper, with all the bugs and lags (PARTICULARLY IPADS)

I don't like this obsession with releasing a new OS every year. Even Apple can't do it. There's no need, and you just get a ton of tacked on stuff and bugs.

We used Windows XP for over half a decade, and it never felt "old" or anything. I really hope Microsoft doesn't follow Apple down this yearly update path.
 
Unless iOS 9 is a "snow leopard" update, I really really hope it is! iOS 7 threw Apple into a hole. iOS 8 dug that hole deeper, with all the bugs and lags (PARTICULARLY IPADS)
Been meaning to ask, could you share some examples?

I don't like this obsession with releasing a new OS every year. Even Apple can't do it. There's no need, and you just get a ton of tacked on stuff and bugs.

We used Windows XP for over half a decade, and it never felt "old" or anything. I really hope Microsoft doesn't follow Apple down this yearly update path.
I was using winXP throughout Vista and win7. I've been using win7 throughout itself, win8, win8.1, and will likely hold on to dear life far into win10.

I'm still on ios7 for my IpT5. I'm going with the "don't fix it if it ain't broke" approach here. Besides, a lot of the goodies are for the latest Iphones anyways.

On my Samsung Galaxy s4 (Tmobile), it came with (IIRC) And 4.3. At some point, Tmobile notified me that And 4.4 was available, but I ignored it. However, one day it just went ahead with the update anyways :confused:, so now I'm on 4.4.4. Some of the phone functionality changed (e.g. it automatically turns off the screen.... no longer uses the front facing camera to detect if it's pressed against your face), so it took a bit to get used to, but at least nothing was 'broken' in the process.
 
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I'm still on ios7 for my IpT5. I'm going with the "don't fix it if it ain't broke" approach here. Besides, a lot of the goodies are for the latest Iphones anyways.

The problem is (to date) Microsoft supports their OSes long after launching them, while Apple doesn't. You HAVE to be up to date or it's not safe to use them online (and for that matter newer software may not work faster).
 
The problem is (to date) Microsoft supports their OSes long after launching them, while Apple doesn't. You HAVE to be up to date or it's not safe to use them online (and for that matter newer software may not work faster).
WinXP had 12 years
Win7 mainstream support has ended, though extended into Jan. 2020
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle
I'm really not looking forward to moving away from win7, but at least I'll have a choice between win8.1 and win10 by then.

To be fair, I've used ios for one x.0 version behind before (IpT4 with ios6, and only got ios7 via my IpT5 instead of updating the IpT4).

It was mostly fine. I'm most concerned about apps not working, and only a few required the latest and greatest ios for me to buy (on sale. I'm told I can always purchase it on iTunes even though I don't meet the hardware nor software requirements, but I have v10.7 so it'll also work with an older, 80GB Ipod Touch Classic), although I will acknowledge with this, it's only a matter of time. They start off as getting updated to support the latest version of iOS, but eventually drop support for the older one you're on.
 
WinXP had 12 years
Win7 mainstream support has ended, though extended into Jan. 2020
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle
I'm really not looking forward to moving away from win7, but at least I'll have a choice between win8.1 and win10 by then.

To be fair, I've used ios for one x.0 version behind before (IpT4 with ios6, and only got ios7 via my IpT5 instead of updating the IpT4).

It was mostly fine. I'm most concerned about apps not working, and only a few required the latest and greatest ios for me to buy (on sale. I'm told I can always purchase it on iTunes even though I don't meet the hardware nor software requirements, but I have v10.7 so it'll also work with an older, 80GB Ipod Touch Classic), although I will acknowledge with this, it's only a matter of time. They start off as getting updated to support the latest version of iOS, but eventually drop support for the older one you're on.

The biggest concern is you're leaving yourself vulnerable if you're running old software OSes on the Internet.

Geez, I can't believe Vista support ends in just over 2 years! It launched EIGHT YEARS AGO! Hard for me to believe it's gone by that fast!

I'm assuming I'll have to quit using my iPad 2 online past this coming fall *sigh*.
 
The biggest concern is you're leaving yourself vulnerable if you're running old software OSes on the Internet.

Geez, I can't believe Vista support ends in just over 2 years! It launched EIGHT YEARS AGO! Hard for me to believe it's gone by that fast!

I'm assuming I'll have to quit using my iPad 2 online past this coming fall *sigh*.

I only ever go online to update apps and for the few games that use internet on my own network. I have used my IpT5 on wifi other networks every few times a year or so (e.g. at a hotel). Besides, I thought iOS was "secure enough". Do you really get the same issues here as with desktop PCs and Android phones?

Eh... good riddance to Win Vista. I hear it was travesty, and win7 is what it should've been all along.

Ipad1 croaked a while back. I'm surprised Ipad2 was able to support ios8... making it the only ios8 device that supports it on non-Retina graphics. I've been hearing several accounts how folks' Ipad2's are becoming glorified net books, although it should still be able to play some simple-ish games and apps.
 
I only ever go online to update apps and for the few games that use internet on my own network. I have used my IpT5 on wifi other networks every few times a year or so (e.g. at a hotel).

Oh thank goodness! Yeah, if you're just updating apps or using programs that connect to known good services, like say downloading books to the Nook or Kindle programs, or using Netflix or whatever, those should be safe so long as you've got a firewall between you and the Internet. I plan on basically using my iPad 2 as a book reader once support is stopped (I assume this fall with iOS 9...unless it turns out it gets 9 too). I'm going to uninstall/hide my browsers and email clients so I'm not tempted to use them LOL.

Besides, I thought iOS was "secure enough". Do you really get the same issues here as with desktop PCs and Android phones?

Any OS or software has the same type of issues if they're not kept up to date by the company in question. The only difference would just be security through obscurity (which isn't really security at all)-like if fewer bad guys are targeting a platform.

I think Android's going to be a gigantic disaster sooner or later, because the market doesn't care about keeping devices up to date-it's only a matter of time before there's some worm rushing around and suddenly verizon has a hundred million compromised devices on their network, or whatever.

iOS at least gets updates from Apple...not for nearly long enough, but at least you get a few years of updates which should help mitigate that!

Eh... good riddance to Win Vista. I hear it was travesty, and win7 is what it should've been all along.

Vista was fine. I think most of the attacks on Vista were because it was the first new version of NT in years, and people forgot that new OS versions break stuff. In this case most of the freak out was I think specifically because NT 6 Microsoft finally started enforcing that your dumb program can't just spew files and registry entries wherever it wants. It was NEVER proper practice for any random program to write anywhere it felt like, but Microsoft allowed it under NT 5.x. Nothing SHOULD have broken, and most stuff didn't, but you had enough terribly written programs that broke that some people freaked out and you had a meme.

Actually, add to that the fact that Vista (again because it was years since the last OS) had higher system requirements. You really wanted a SM 2.0 compatible GPU, and you really wanted 2GB RAM, and OEMs were sticking Vista on systems without real GPUs, and with 512MB. I remember the year following...my systems were fine, but you had these pathetic Celeron based single core systems with pre-Sandy Bridge garbage Intel graphics, and half a gig of RAM, and like updates that took my hardware a few seconds took literally hours on these things. And then people think it's Vista's fault, or Vista's fault that their horribly coded program broke, and...

8's having a similar meme. Nothing wrong with it, but people are freaking out because the start menu is full screen, even though mostly it works just like 7, with some pleasant tweaks and the usual hardware support updates.

There seemed to be people who thought the start menu replaced the desktop LOL and *facepalm*

Ipad1 croaked a while back. I'm surprised Ipad2 was able to support ios8... making it the only ios8 device that supports it on non-Retina graphics.

Yeah, based on how short the 1 was supported, I was surprised the 2 got another year. It's the same hardware as the 4s, mini 1, and touch 5 though, so maybe that's why. I still use mine a lot, for when I'm too lazy to go to a real PC. AND I still like it a lot more than my Nexus 7 (which STILL hasn't gotten an Android 5 update!)
 
I only ever go online to update apps and for the few games that use internet on my own network. I have used my IpT5 on wifi other networks every few times a year or so (e.g. at a hotel). Besides, I thought iOS was "secure enough". Do you really get the same issues here as with desktop PCs and Android phones?

Eh... good riddance to Win Vista. I hear it was travesty, and win7 is what it should've been all along.

Ipad1 croaked a while back. I'm surprised Ipad2 was able to support ios8... making it the only ios8 device that supports it on non-Retina graphics. I've been hearing several accounts how folks' Ipad2's are becoming glorified net books, although it should still be able to play some simple-ish games and apps.

Its hardly surprising that iOS 8 supported the iPad 2 - When iOS 8 was released 29 percent of iPad users were on the iPad 2, an the iPad Mini 1 was (And still is) on sale (The Mini 1 is a miniaturised iPad 2). If bother to turn off a few settings, the iPad 2 is perfectly usable in iOS 8 - Its really not that bad.
 
I play the skylanders games, lost islands, cloud patrol and battlegrounds on an iPad 2 on iOS 8 and they work fine.
 
so, given that the ipod touch is two gens behind...

so, given that the ipod touch is two gens behind... should I instead get a refurb or used iphone 5 for roughly the same money?

I'd assume the more current generation chip in the iphone model will let the device better accomidate new ios releases, play games better.

Note that the device is for my son -- if I went he iPhone route, I would not put a simm min it. Also- unless the iphone offered noticeably better performance, I'd rather get a new or apple refurb ipod touch over something used as this would be a present... Thanks for advice in advance...
 
so, given that the ipod touch is two gens behind... should I instead get a refurb or used iphone 5 for roughly the same money?

I'd assume the more current generation chip in the iphone model will let the device better accomidate new ios releases, play games better.

Note that the device is for my son -- if I went he iPhone route, I would not put a simm min it. Also- unless the iphone offered noticeably better performance, I'd rather get a new or apple refurb ipod touch over something used as this would be a present... Thanks for advice in advance...
I still use my both of my iPhone 4's as iPods (in addition to a 4G iPod Touch). When put in airplane mode, even those "ancient" iPhones have terrific battery life.

One of these iPhone 4's is a CDMA version with a bad ESN (bought 3 years ago) for a significantly less than usable iPhones sold for. The seller didn't pay on his contract so Verizon blacklisted his phone.

If the iPhone 5 will only ever be used as an iPod, you might want to consider a CDMA version with a bad ESN.
 
I still use my both of my iPhone 4's as iPods (in addition to a 4G iPod Touch). When put in airplane mode, even those "ancient" iPhones have terrific battery life.

One of these iPhone 4's is a CDMA version with a bad ESN (bought 3 years ago) for a significantly less than usable iPhones sold for. The seller didn't pay on his contract so Verizon blacklisted his phone.

If the iPhone 5 will only ever be used as an iPod, you might want to consider a CDMA version with a bad ESN.

Hmmm, some pretty enticing prices on Iph5 and Iph5s with bad ESNs. If the IpT6 release is a dud, it's nice to know us IpT uses can still get decent hardware to replace our IpT5's. I take it you can still use wifi and GPS with a bad ESN?
 
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