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If / when they do update, it will at least get the A7. Future IOS will require an A7 or better (64 bits) and the Touch is currently on a 3+ year update timetable (i.e the next update will most likely be the last update for a long time).

I'm sure that the iPhone 5, iPhone 5C and iPad 4 will all be getting iOS 9 and they all have the A6 chip.
 
I'm sure that the iPhone 5, iPhone 5C and iPad 4 will all be getting iOS 9 and they all have the A6 chip.

Yes but the Touch will most likely not be updated for many years after the next update. They will not put an A6 in the next Touch since the iPhone 5, iPhone 5C, and iPad 4 will be long gone before the next Touch update after the next one (i.e. you will be on IOS10+ before you see another update after the next one).
 
Yes but the Touch will most likely not be updated for many years after the next update. They will not put an A6 in the next Touch since the iPhone 5, iPhone 5C, and iPad 4 will be long gone before the next Touch update after the next one (i.e. you will be on IOS10+ before you see another update after the next one).

Agreeing with Plutonius again. :p

I think we're going to see the niche apple products (Touch, Mac Mini, iPods, etc) fall to a less frequent update cycle. Because of this, I'd guarantee that the next gen Touch will pack an A7, and at least 1GB RAM. This will put its performance in the iPad Air/iPhone 5S range, and will keep it performing well for another three+ year cycle.

I'd imagine it'll also get an 8MP camera and Touch ID.
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2013/01/13/the-mythical-budget-iphone-mini-would-cost-2000/

For the iPhone 5 16GB the total you are committed to paying now is between $2,275 and $5,755.

I'd like to add that these figures do NOT include taxes which in my experience are around 15%-20% of the total bill ($340 to $455!???)

Keep in mind, before the service plans are factored into account, to buy an iPhone one is paying three times the cost of an iPod Touch.

I don't think you get my point, I was stating that it doesn't cost two grand to give a child an old iPhone because originally, my post was a response to a point specifically discussing iPods being popular alternative for children.

So I am talking about a situation for hand me down iPhones being a similar alternative in that situation. I have worked as a sales rep. for a cellphone service provider in the past and have seen many parents going this route as they upgrade their own phone.

And to be precise, the cost you describe is service fee, not the cost of iPhone. Sure if you have an iPhone you WILL use the service naturally but that means you get constant connection,which is becoming a very common thing and far more useful than a wifi only device.

If you don't see the benefits of constant connection, sure get an iPod but since our society is moving towards the idea that constant connection is a good thing (to the point where it's rapidly becoming more of necessity than luxury) therefore iPods being less relevant than they used to be. It's as simple as that.
 
Only a few more months and I expect you to post you were wrong in this thread when the Touch 6 isn't released this fall :D.

In the extremely small chance that the 6th gen touch isn't released this fall, it will be released next fall. There's no way Apple will release the iPod touch in the spring. A long while ago Apple shifted to a yearly refresh cycle in the fall. The spring/summer is reserved for menial PC processor bumps, capacity changes, price changes, and color changes.
 
If they don't release a 6th gen by June the iPod 5 will have to get iOS 9.

Agreed. Other have made a very good point that IOS 9 will support A5/A6 based on the products currently being sold. I still expect an update to the Touch at least six months before IOS 9 so I'm predicting March/April for the Touch 6.

After the next update, it will probably be 3+ years before the next update (if any). Because of this, Apple will want the Touch 6 to be able to run IOS 10. I doubt that Apple will put the new A8 in a Touch 6 so, the Touch 6 will get an A7 (1GB RAM). Apple will also standardize by using the new 4.7" display. All this assumes that Apple isn't canceling the Touch.
 
it doesn't cost two grand to give a child an old iPhone
A used iphone (2 generations old, which is usually when you are off contract) is typically worth $200+ which is about what an ipod touch costs, so for married people with kids, it totally makes sense to give their kids their old iphones. But for non-children (single unattached bachelor FWIW) an up to date ipod touch with the latest hardware is far preferable for the same price, if you're not interested in the service agreement.
And to be precise, the cost you describe is service fee, not the cost of iPhone.
The cost of a new iphone is approximately 3 times the cost of a new ipod touch. The cost of the service plan is additional thousands of dollars.

If you don't see the benefits of constant connection, sure get an iPod but since our society is moving towards the idea that constant connection is a good thing (to the point where it's rapidly becoming more of necessity than luxury) therefore iPods being less relevant than they used to be. It's as simple as that.

The iphone is the product for an always on connection. The ipod touch and ipad without data plan are for people who don't want to pay for a data connection. While I agree with you that data access is becoming more of a desirable thing (I personally feel tempted to pay for cell data for the first time ever) (no cellular data service may be at odds with most of the macrumors community but is with the majority of the consuming public), this is mitigated by the fact that wifi data is becoming more ubiquitous in public places. I still think the ipod touch should be sold for the same reason the non-cellular ipad should be sold.

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Yes but the Touch will most likely not be updated for many years after the next update.

Highly doubtful that Apple itself has decided what to do about the iPod Touch 7th gen when there is no 6th gen. The truth is Apple reacts to the competition and the general demand for its products, and adjusts accordingly. When making statements about what Apple plans to do more than 3 years in the future, keep in mind that the iphone didn't even exist 7 years ago!
 
The iPod touch seems to have adapted a 2-year release cycle.

With Handoff and iWatch, the iPod touch might gain in importance, actually.

(It's certainly possible to build a smartwatch with a battery life of more than a couple of days. It becomes a real challenge when one tries to include multiple data radios. The iWatch won't be a simple watch-with-notifications or a boring sports watch.)
 
A used iphone (2 generations old, which is usually when you are off contract) is typically worth $200+ which is about what an ipod touch costs, so for married people with kids, it totally makes sense to give their kids their old iphones. But for non-children (single unattached bachelor FWIW) an up to date ipod touch with the latest hardware is far preferable for the same price, if you're not interested in the service agreement.

The cost of a new iphone is approximately 3 times the cost of a new ipod touch. The cost of the service plan is additional thousands of dollars.



The iphone is the product for an always on connection. The ipod touch and ipad without data plan are for people who don't want to pay for a data connection. While I agree with you that data access is becoming more of a desirable thing (I personally feel tempted to pay for cell data for the first time ever) (no cellular data service may be at odds with most of the macrumors community but is with the majority of the consuming public), this is mitigated by the fact that wifi data is becoming more ubiquitous in public places. I still think the ipod touch should be sold for the same reason the non-cellular ipad should be sold.

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Highly doubtful that Apple itself has decided what to do about the iPod Touch 7th gen when there is no 6th gen. The truth is Apple reacts to the competition and the general demand for its products, and adjusts accordingly. When making statements about what Apple plans to do more than 3 years in the future, keep in mind that the iphone didn't even exist 7 years ago!

I don't want to pay for the same thing twice, which I why I have a wifi iPad Air which I tether my phone to. If I couldn't tether then I would buy the cellular iPad and maybe I wouldn't have an iPod touch.
 
Oh, c'mon - REALLY? Please try a little harder:
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/2...ller-ipod-touch-front-panel-iphone-5-cameras/

http://www.cultofmac.com/187020/lea...might-be-getting-a-serious-upgrade-this-year/

I vividly recall lots of leaked parts and details on the current gen iPod Touch ahead of it's release. There was a huge mystery surrounding the hole at the bottom back of cases before someone found out it was for the iLoop carrying strap.

All I'm saying is that if we were to see an updated iPod Touch this fall don't you think there would be at least a few parts or details leaked? There hasn't been anything that I've seen so far.

Yes, there were possible "leaked cases" and "panels" prior to the announcement of the new ipt 5g. However, there wasn't any indication that Apple was going to release a significant upgrade to its IPT line until the proverbial "eleventh hour." For all we knew, it was simply going to be slight modification albeit with a larger screen. I thought this post was about a totally new upgrade (i.e.: processor, memory, storage, screen resolution, camera, etc...).

J
 
none of you guys are getting the "bigger picture"


im talking about the Touch+iOS being the norm and future of retail, tradeshows, shipping, etc etc.

Its a huge market, so what if consumer sales dip when that device is going to be the mainstream device to do retail or scan and pack for businesses?


Yes they can buy the iPhone, but who would if you have the option for a cheaper iTouch for your business? It does bring the price down if your purchasing ALOT.

you still have licensing fees from the developer and usually a opticon type scanner or linea pro sleeve along with it.




and iPod? iTouch? who cares? are you going to talk about pointless names? or the business potential they have?

what are they gonna do? just say **** it and have windows take over the business industry again with their OS? (AKA windows)
 
Yes, there were possible "leaked cases" and "panels" prior to the announcement of the new ipt 5g. However, there wasn't any indication that Apple was going to release a significant upgrade to its IPT line until the proverbial "eleventh hour." For all we knew, it was simply going to be slight modification albeit with a larger screen. I thought this post was about a totally new upgrade (i.e.: processor, memory, storage, screen resolution, camera, etc...).

J

OK - if that's how you want to spin it, then you could say the iPhone 6 is ONLY speculation at this point and there isn't _ANY_ indication that Apple is going to release a significant upgrade. ◔_◔
 
Why is there always the talk about some kind of barcode scanner / pos cash register add on for the iPod touch that I have never heard of / seen in real life?
 
I don't know but everytime I try to scan something with my touch the battery is down to the red in 30min to an hour tops. For any real world application of scanning they would have to be tethered to a charger or put inside a battery case with a huge battery especially if someone intends to scan with them all day long.

Also it seems most stores are using iPads for this purpose, our sears uses iPads which seems pointless since they still have to use the register anyways but alas they use them.

The touch also NEEDS wifi to function, what if you are scanning in a place that doesn't have wifi or have to scan in a place that does not have wifi, the touch then becomes a paperweight. Also if wifi goes down which happens a lot, your business plan would be ruined.
 
none of you guys are getting the "bigger picture"


im talking about the Touch+iOS being the norm and future of retail, tradeshows, shipping, etc etc.

Its a huge market, so what if consumer sales dip when that device is going to be the mainstream device to do retail or scan and pack for businesses?


Yes they can buy the iPhone, but who would if you have the option for a cheaper iTouch for your business? It does bring the price down if your purchasing ALOT.

you still have licensing fees from the developer and usually a opticon type scanner or linea pro sleeve along with it.

It always feel funny when waiter use iPD to order food. Then when ipad was introduced for customer to order food, I still see ppl asking the waiter to press for them. =.=


Receiving a brand new ipod touch is better than receiving a a used phone?
For a parent, I don mind my child not being connected all the time, especially in lessons. Hence ipod touch.

Ipod touch can do most stuff iPhone can do. It would be a great companion device for many ppl, especially people with cheaper phones.
 
I've a 4th gen iPT for 2 years and a feature phone with battery for 2-3 weeks depending pf usage. The reason? I don't want to be dependent of month payments and don't need full time internet. Even my sim card is not charged regularly with money. In most places i go, i've wifi hotspots.

2 years ago i bought the touch used, in mint condition and for 100 euros (8 gb). At the time, there wasn't an Android phone at this price with the same general quality. Even today i only know the Moto E and still doesn't the same to me.

So, for guys like me, Apple should at minimum update the iPod touch with a recent SoC and 1gb RAM.
 
It always feel funny when waiter use iPD to order food. Then when ipad was introduced for customer to order food, I still see ppl asking the waiter to press for them. =.=


Receiving a brand new ipod touch is better than receiving a a used phone?
For a parent, I don mind my child not being connected all the time, especially in lessons. Hence ipod touch.

Ipod touch can do most stuff iPhone can do. It would be a great companion device for many ppl, especially people with cheaper phones.

Well yeah i see it in the food industry.


but im talking about manufacturing, what gets manufactured? Almost everything.


iOS order taking systems is the new thing. 1st of all it beats out all other competitors using 90's esque huge devices and barcode scanners.

and 2nd human mistakes, unless your lugging around your labtop which has some sort of ERP system, than your writing orders down.

when you write orders down, there are MANY human errors (from my experience)

they write down the wrong product number, they right the correct product number but in a color they dont have.

etc etc etc, and when you go back with the customer to fix this error its just a huge headache.



with ipads, you get reports of all your orders taken today or for the whole show, shows you live inventory, reports of your customers balance.

etc etc.

im not talking about the kids, im just talking in a business sense.


and the cost does matter, you have a $300 iPod as to the $700 off contract iPhone.

With device liscencing and plus a linea pro barcode/creditcard sleeve if you get an iPhone off contract

thats about $2100 PER device. as to 1600-1700 for the iPod.

get more than 10 of these, than yes the price difference does matter, especially to the average company, which are family owned.

it just puts it harder on the developer too, with these steep prices, we're going to have to reduce the price on our licensing at times if smaller/cheaper customers think the 2100 per device is too expensive.
 
The iPod Classic with the wheel has a special place for music fans with large libraries who choose to retain those libraries locally. It limits them to a cable output for sound system connection. No bluetooth, no Airplay.

For many others, their phone acts as the iPod especially if they use cloud music streaming/web radio etc. But many people's iPhones are business/job related devices so some might get a separate personal device for music/video/photo. And if they do they'd like it to be smaller than the iPad mini.

For me, the next iPod should be in touch format with just the new large iPhone screen size - for video & gaming. Faster than current processor plus the larger format would allow bigger Gb storage. 128/256gb storage plus A7 processors are current real technologies and may combine with that screen format.

That would be a big step forward in a gaming/personal media device.

I would seriously kill for a 128gb if not a 256gb version, because it's ridiculous that Apple thought that 64gb would be ok for the 5th gen version which is why I refused to buy one and decided to wait to buy a 6th gen version, but hopefully they won't pull this crap with 64gb bring the so-called top of the range version...
 
If a new iPod was coming wouldn't we be seeing B&M stores offering better deals on them to get them out of inventory? Best I'm seeing is $10 off. Even the Apple refurbs are still not hugely discounted %-wise off MSRP.

From a tech standpoint, the iPod needs a speed bump. I understand the touch is a low volume product for Apple now, but still a useful one, but only if it can run the most CPU challenging iOS apps. Many apps/games now are designed for the A7, soon the A8.
 
From a tech standpoint, the iPod needs a speed bump. I understand the touch is a low volume product for Apple now, but still a useful one, but only if it can run the most CPU challenging iOS apps. Many apps/games now are designed for the A7, soon the A8.

What app / game does *NOT* run or runs very slowly on the touch 5g?
 
What app / game does *NOT* run or runs very slowly on the touch 5g?

Have you not heard that Bioshock is not compatible w/ the Touch at all. Just the beginning of new apps that will require newer chips. Then, as I said there all all the complex graphical apps and games that run poorly on the Touch.
 
I'm predicting they refresh the iPod 5 with a more iPhone 6-like design. It will have either the same camera as before, or maybe 8MP. Also, not sure whether it will have Touch ID or not, that just seems like a pretty premium feature, to be found in top of the line iPhones and possibly iPads if they add that in later this fall. Wouldn't be too surprised if they included Touch ID though. Also, I'm expecting pretty much iPhone 5S specs; A7 chip and 1GB of RAM. When the iPod 5 came out, it sported 4S specs, but had a more iPhone 5 like design, and some iPhone 5+ things as well, like the updated WiFi chip I think, which is why the iPod 5 can use AirDrop, but not the iPhone 4S.

I am pretty sure they will make an iPod 6 though. They seem to skip iPhone "S" models for iPod releases, and the iPods are sort of used to sport and promote the all new physical features of the new iPhone, and some other goodies as well. The iPod usually has slightly bogged down specs though. iPod 4 came with iPhone 4, both had new retina display. However, iPod 4 had half the RAM at 256MB, not 512MB like the iPhone 4. iPhone 4S release came and went, no new iPod. However, iPhone 5 came and the iPod 5 came onto the scene. It had the all new 4 inch display, and the new aluminum body, like the iPhone 5. It, again, had bogged down specs though. A5 chip and 512MB of RAM like the iPhone 4S, not A6 chip and 1GB of RAM seen in the iPhone 5. And... 5S release came and went, no iPod. I see a pattern here, and am expecting a new iPod 6 release.
 
I really think the iPod Touch is pretty much dead now, since iPhones do the same thing as well as call people. Plus iTunes is not doing so well now with Spotify and Pandora streaming music. This defeats the purpose of an iPod

The only difference is the price tag. My granddaughter bought herself an iPod Touch from the money she saved herself. She is very organised in finding free WiFi wherever she goes. It does everything an iPhone would do except making phone calls, for a third of the price and no monthly fees.
 
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