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Is Apple Phasing Out the iWork Brand?

That doesn't mean that the products are going away. It is confusing having iwork, numbers and creators version of numbers. I just use the "new" numbers and am NOT subscribed. I also use iMovie.

I'm looking at buying the stand alone Final Cut Pro for some of my videos.
 
I use Pages and Numbers every day. It's been a good - and free - alternative to Word and Excel. I only need the basic functionality, as I imagine is true for most casual users. I hope they keep the basic apps free. I understand adding a paid tier for AI features such as image creation, but only if they ever actually get that right. Image Playground is garbage.
 
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AncTreat5358 said:
When I moved from Windows to Apple, I chose to cut ties with Microsoft Office completely. For my needs, Pages and Numbers are perfectly aligned. Plus, they don't feel overly saturated with features and choices not relevant to me.
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Yes. My family uses pages, and numbers on shared MBA. For me professionally iWork suite didn’t cut it. Though I would love to get rid of Microsoft or even Google Docs.
 
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CasinoOwl said:
I use Pages and Numbers every day. It's been a good - and free - alternative to Word and Excel. I only need the basic functionality, as I imagine is true for most casual users. I hope they keep the basic apps free. I understand adding a paid tier for AI features such as image creation, but only if they ever actually get that right. Image Playground is garbage.
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Not the one in pages, inserting images in pages is pretty cool. It’s not same as image playground.
 
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MasterControlProgram said:
Plus Pages generally actually positions images without the entire document going crazy and whole paragraphs of text ending up shunted to another page like has been happening with MS Word since the ‘90s.
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Haha! This is my main use of Pages. I use Microsoft Office for almost everything, but any time I have to add a picture to a document, I open it in Pages & insert the photo, then export it to Word. It's so much faster that way & gives me the positioning I want, without fighting with the app!
 
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rick3000 said:
I don't care if they rebrand it from iWork to something else. But I am going to be livid if they try to make such basic programs a subscription.

Apple has already completely abandoned making software for pro's, paywalling a word processor, spreadsheet and slideshow app would be as dumb as axing Aperture and FCP7 at their zenith...oh wait...
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I’m convinced Tim is going to ruin the entire company eventually if allowed to do so.
 
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jdawgnoonan said:
According to Corey Doctrow in his book “En********ation” Jobs had it called iWork because they reverse engineered Microsoft Office file formatting so that content produced “Worked” with Office.
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I've wanted to read that book for the longest time...but feel it's just going to raise my blood pressure and put me into a foul mood.
 
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trixit said:
Oh, looky look: FREE, private office suite LibreOffice looks better and better by the day. New update 26.2 is out.
These guys are used in govt., educational facilities, businesses, and homes all around the world so they are not going anywhere, unlike Aperture.

Perhaps, in the not so distant future, Pages, Numbers and Keynote will meet the same, Aperture style, swift and brutal fate... Exactly for that reason someone mentioned above - that younger generations are NOT using these apps anymore.

My teen sons live in Canva and Google Docs. They have NEVER heard about Pages or Numbers. Or Keynote. And they grew up on iPads! Both have a Mac now as well.

They are using what they learned in schools - and in schools Google apps rein supreme.

Now... for privacy reasons, I'm teaching them, as smart parents should, to also take their private and school (soon business) documents away from the cloud, and AI, and use tools that are local. LibreOffice is such a tool.

https://www.libreoffice.org/

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I've tried LibreOffice, but it just (and, just as the MS Office suite still does as well) - it is just so non-native feeling and clunky. The features are fairly decent, but I just wish that some UI and designers would hop on some of these projects and really take things to the next level. I'm surprised it hasn't happened already, but it hasn't.

If they just made platform-specific UIs for the Libre suite, it would be a massive upgrade to things. I'm not against it whatsoever as it is right now. I just think they could do so much better, with not even that much work if they got some of the right people with those necessary skills onboard.
 
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MasterControlProgram said:
Personally I love Pages and Numbers. They might not be as fully featured as Word and Excel but I don’t have to pay a subscription to use them (yet… 🙄) and they do everything I need them to.

Plus Pages generally actually positions images without the entire document going crazy and whole paragraphs of text ending up shunted to another page like has been happening with MS Word since the ‘90s.
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The second paragraph covers my #1 beef with Microsoft Word. Pages isn't perfect either, where inserting an image in Pages word processor mode copies Word's attempt to have the picture take up as much space as possible requiring resizing. I much prefer the model of first creating a container and then placing the image in that container.

I also think that iOS compatibility for iWork was a bit of a mistake in that it limits what features could be put in Pages, Numbers and Keynote.
 
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IvyKing said:
The second paragraph covers my #1 beef with Microsoft Word. Pages isn't perfect either, where inserting an image in Pages word processor mode copies Word's attempt to have the picture take up as much space as possible requiring resizing. I much prefer the model of first creating a container and then placing the image in that container.

I also think that iOS compatibility for iWork was a bit of a mistake in that it limits what features could be put in Pages, Numbers and Keynote.
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Yeah word with images is pa pain. I like pages on iPad os compared to word on iPad. Not sure what image generation Apple is using for pages in creator studio but it’s superior to word. I pay for office, wouldn’t mind creator studio if Apple improves.
 
AppleTO said:
The problem doesn’t have as much to do with the functionally of the apps. They do what they do well. The problem is compatibility and collaboration with other users, often external. Microsoft Office is the world standard and people expect these kinds of documents. To make it worse, the iWork apps only run on Mac’s. Yes, they can import and export office format documents, but it’s a coin toss whether or not the integrity of the documents are lost.
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Indeed it's a coin toss. I am only starting to transition to iWork app almost exclusive use just for that. But working at a uni, I don't think I will get the stringent needs you may get, that's also true.
 
I bought Pixelmator 2 years ago just to avoid subscription. I have absolutely no use of apps like;
  • Final Cut Pro för Mac 12.0
  • Final Cut Pro för iPad 3.0
  • Logic Pro för Mac 12.0
  • Logic Pro för iPad 3.0
  • Pixelmator Pro för iPad 4.0
  • Motion 6.0 (Mac)
  • Compressor 5.0 (Mac)
  • MainStage 4.0 (Mac)

So, why should I pay for all these apps just for using Pages, Numbers and Keynote? Seems like I will be using MS office in the future.
 
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Kottu said:
I bought Pixelmator 2 years ago just to avoid subscription. I have absolutely no use of apps like;
  • Final Cut Pro för Mac 12.0
  • Final Cut Pro för iPad 3.0
  • Logic Pro för Mac 12.0
  • Logic Pro för iPad 3.0
  • Pixelmator Pro för iPad 4.0
  • Motion 6.0 (Mac)
  • Compressor 5.0 (Mac)
  • MainStage 4.0 (Mac)

So, why should I pay for all these apps just for using Pages, Numbers and Keynote? Seems like I will be using MS office in the future.
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Just to be clear, you don't have to pay for anything to use Pages, Numbers & Keynote. You only have to pay if you want the advanced features they offer (mostly AI integration at this point). Anything 'normal'/'traditional' is still free to use.
 
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SpanishAppleNerd said:
Indeed it's a coin toss. I am only starting to transition to iWork app almost exclusive use just for that. But working at a uni, I don't think I will get the stringent needs you may get, that's also true.
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Makes sense. The other day, I tried opening an excel spreadsheet in Numbers. I got this error message "unsupported formulas were replaced by the last reported value". Imagine getting that in a work environment. Someone sends you a spreadsheet, which you open in Numbers, and it breaks a formula. Then you make your modifications and send it on. No one is thinking that you modified the formula because why would you, but it causes cells to not be updated correctly, potentially causing unnoticed errors going forward. It's worth it to companies to standardize on MS Office to eliminate issues like that.
 
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diblasio said:
I can’t believe someone else here remembers this! How’s your back doing these days? 👴
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Ha, ha. I was a Mac-obsessed teenager who frequently got to hang out in his mom’s office after school. She was in Mac tech support back then. There was always the latest edition of MacWEEK on her desk. My favorite reading was “Mac the Knife” on the back page, the rumor column 😊
 
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