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Really? because with out the design/video department my company wouldn't exist. nor would any other advertising or video company.

I consider the production part of a business to be one of the most important.

And advertising firms and video production companies make up a VERY small percentage of the "CORPORATE PROFESSIONAL MARKET" as a whole.

Quit being so stubborn. You're wrong. Accept it.
 
apple is really beginning to ***** me off, big time. i just dont like where they are heading, and what customers they value. they seem to have forgotten us pro users and are making critical decisions just to support the general public.

the pro line is named pro for a reason and they seem to be forgetting that. i think the MBA is nice for the general public but lets keep the pro as pro as possible. id like to see the same MBP design with better cooling, more features/ports, and better performance. but no they're going to make a thinner pro that runs blazing hot.that and they're pretty much ditching the mac pro line all together.

also how there trying to implement ios stuff into OSX. i dont want that bloated **** on my OS, i want more flexibility, performance, and simplicity.

if any other laptop could compare the the MBP i would get it, but for now im going to buy a new MBP. but i tell you what im building a killer desktop PC soon. so much more bang for buck and then ill have the best of both worlds.

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Like I've said elsewhere on this forum: Apple had only a runaway success with the iPod and iTunes. As a computer company they are mediocre - the only thing going for them was the nice enclosure thanks to Jonathan Ive and that the software was based on Unix. Originally the Mac was for graphics work and the PC for character-based office work (data entry etc).

Then the mobile phone manufacturers started to add MP3 players to their phones and subsequently Apple had to get into the phone industry since their iPod sales started to drop off. However the mobile phone industry is a fickle one - we had Motorola come and go, Ericson, Nokia, Rim (remember Blackberry anyone?) and I cannot see Apple being any different. Heck Samsung mobile phone sales are growing faster than Apple's hence that Apple had to start some patent war because they have not got anything else. Grasping to straws imho.

Now they have bought a patent from Xerox to do with electronic location which may in a patent war have far reaching implications. If they try to hold the rest of the industry / world at ransom with that (tomTom, GPS, Google maps, Cellphone towers, plane positioning etc etc) then they may well find themselves being broken up in a hurry like Ma Bell. The rest of the world is not going to stand for it, that is going to be a garantee since every man and his dog has been using this technology under Xerox reign.

IMHO Apple has gotten themselves just into trouble, it will be interesting to see how long it will take before they hit rock bottom again, just when they ousted Steve Jobs in the beginning.
I needed to move from a laptop to a large screen (deteriorating eyesight) and the Mac mini 2010 was the option I choose. Unfortunately it was not powerfull enough for a commercial application I have and hence I had to upgrade to the 2011 i5 2.5 with GPU. But the thing is noisy, runs hot and is in no way of the same build quality as the 2010 model. And do not even get me started about taking out the CD/DVD.

The 2011 was the second and will be the last Apple product I buy - OSX is morphing into iOS and once OS X is gone that will be the end of some Pro products.

Some years ago there was a large insurance company doing a study on the reliability of computers and Asus came out on top. That will be my next brand (I had initially Toshiba, next IBM which has gone down the drain and now Apple but the latter will be a short lived affair. I am not investing any more time in learning / becoming familiar with OS X, I've ripped it off and replaced it with Windows 7).
 
No, he really doesn't.

They killed the Xserve, Final Cut X is a POS no one that does heavy video wants, and there is rumor of killing the Mac Pro. Which the iMac is NOT a good replacement for if you do lots of video work.


I work at a 40,000 person company that does a lot of video work and uses XServes and Mac Pros for their editing. The video teams have already cried they don't want the new Final Cut, when the XServes go our of warranty and unsupported they will be replaced with Windows Servers, and when the Mac pros die they will probably be replaced with PC workstations.

While the high end market probably was once significant in terms of revenue, Apple no longer needs it as much since their main products have clearly moved squarely into the consumer market and Apple has gone from selling computers to selling an end to end content delivery system. Mac Pros make for nice eye candy in the store but really aren't thee focus; I even had the business manager at an Apple store dissuade me from buying one because an iMac is a more cost effective solution. I realize some people want that power but Apple seems to have decided it simply isn't worth pursuing and would rather devote talent to other more profitable markets.
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Also only selling 27in displays means we cant buy them as your average company desk cant fit an iMac and a 27in display, so we are using Mac Pros and two 23in displays. If the Mac pro is discontinued then we will be getting iMacs instead of Pros to go with a 23in display. That's a lot less per machine that Apple will be getting from us.

Apple is pushing themselves out of the corporate professional market.

I don't think Apple really cares about that end of the market - there is simply not enough revenue and margin in it. Apple isn't a computer company, the computer is just one part of a broader media strategy and the high end professional user doesn't fit into that plan.
 
apple is really beginning to ***** me off, big time. i just dont like where they are heading, and what customers they value. they seem to have forgotten us pro users and are making critical decisions just to support the general public.

the pro line is named pro for a reason and they seem to be forgetting that. i think the MBA is nice for the general public but lets keep the pro as pro as possible. id like to see the same MBP design with better cooling, more features/ports, and better performance. but no they're going to make a thinner pro that runs blazing hot.that and they're pretty much ditching the mac pro line all together.

also how there trying to implement ios stuff into OSX. i dont want that bloated **** on my OS, i want more flexibility, performance, and simplicity.

if any other laptop could compare the the MBP i would get it, but for now im going to buy a new MBP. but i tell you what im building a killer desktop PC soon. so much more bang for buck and then ill have the best of both worlds.

Doesn't work that way unfortunately.

Who ever said they were doing all those things to the MBP anyways?

They made the MBA for a reason. It's an as-thin-as-possible redux of the MBP. If they were going to do the same to the MBP, it would essentially be a MBA. That wouldn't make sense.

And Apple has never really been about "more". The MBP has always offered everything needed and nothing else. It would be un-Apple for them to put more ports on the MBP. I mean honestly, what other port would you need on a laptop? I'm pissed I have a card reader on mine TBH.
 
Doesn't work that way unfortunately.

Who ever said they were doing all those things to the MBP anyways?

They made the MBA for a reason. It's an as-thin-as-possible redux of the MBP. If they were going to do the same to the MBP, it would essentially be a MBA. That wouldn't make sense.

And Apple has never really been about "more". The MBP has always offered everything needed and nothing else. It would be un-Apple for them to put more ports on the MBP. I mean honestly, what other port would you need on a laptop? I'm pissed I have a card reader on mine TBH.

maybe another usb port or two. an hdmi port instead of the stupid mini dvi that loses the sound. thats basically what i meant by "more ports" and i believe apple should have those ports like every other laptop on the market these days.



and im glad to see theres a lot of other people that see where im coming from. honestly i hope apple has a big awakening and has to reevaluate their objectives. personally i like those companies that spend a lot of money with research and design and not so much marketing. i just think apple is losing their touch and they need to get their heads out of their asses.

as someone mentioned before...i started out a 100% pro apple user and in the past few years that has only diminished. i still like the MBP's obviously and everything apple really, but PC sure does offer a lot of better options, with more flexibility, for much cheaper. so like i said, im going to get a new top of the line 15" MBP and then build a nice pc
 
Actually the pro line is named the pro line because the marketing people thought it would sell more. It has nothing to do with anything else except for marketing.

I actually don't agree with you. The Pro was introduced when the regular MacBook was still being sold by Apple in their stores. The Pro was named the Pro (in my opinion) based on how much more it could offer than the regular MacBook. I doubt this has anything to do with marketing. The computers will keep seeing updates in the coming years and I'm sure that the Pro will offer a lot more than the Air (in terms of processing) unless Apple decides to combine them.
 
maybe another usb port or two. an hdmi port instead of the stupid mini dvi that loses the sound. thats basically what i meant by "more ports" and i believe apple should have those ports like every other laptop on the market these days.



and im glad to see theres a lot of other people that see where im coming from. honestly i hope apple has a big awakening and has to reevaluate their objectives. personally i like those companies that spend a lot of money with research and design and not so much marketing. i just think apple is losing their touch and they need to get their heads out of their asses.

as someone mentioned before...i started out a 100% pro apple user and in the past few years that has only diminished. i still like the MBP's obviously and everything apple really, but PC sure does offer a lot of better options, with more flexibility, for much cheaper. so like i said, im going to get a new top of the line 15" MBP and then build a nice pc

The current MBPs use the TB port, not Mini-DVI. And MBPs for the last few years have used Mini-Display Port. In fact I don't think mini-DVI has been used since Powerbooks. So you probably just need to upgrade your hardware.

Honestly putting an HDMI port on the MBP is doing exactly what pisses you off, limiting the MBP to consumers. Why would anyone spend $2500 on a laptop that can't output any resolution passed 1080p? And how could you possibly need 4-5 USB ports on a laptop?

Apple has always been about simplicity, not redundancy. If it's redundancy and gimped technology you want, HP makes great laptops for that.

I really do agree with you on Apple's change in focus though. Not because the MBP is a bad computer, but because they seem to be focusing more on their consumer aimed products (MBA, iMac, bringing iOS to OS X). I however don't think that that's going to make the MBP the next MBA.
 
The current MBPs use the TB port, not Mini-DVI. And MBPs for the last few years have used Mini-Display Port. In fact I don't think mini-DVI has been used since Powerbooks. So you probably just need to upgrade your hardware.

Honestly putting an HDMI port on the MBP is doing exactly what pisses you off, limiting the MBP to consumers. Why would anyone spend $2500 on a laptop that can't output any resolution passed 1080p? And how could you possibly need 4-5 USB ports on a laptop?

Apple has always been about simplicity, not redundancy. If it's redundancy and gimped technology you want, HP makes great laptops for that.

I really do agree with you on Apple's change in focus though. Not because the MBP is a bad computer, but because they seem to be focusing more on their consumer aimed products (MBA, iMac, bringing iOS to OS X). I however don't think that that's going to make the MBP the next MBA.

actually mini dvi was used until 2010 on the white macbooks. and does TB transfer audio as well? because its annoying when im trying to hook my mac up to my TV but the sound doesnt come out of the tv.
 
actually mini dvi was used until 2010 on the white macbooks. and does TB transfer audio as well? because its annoying when im trying to hook my mac up to my TV but the sound doesnt come out of the tv.

I wouldn't consider the white MacBook a "pro" computer, or any 13" for that matter.

The 2010 MBP supported audio out via the mini-Display Port connection, so I can only imagine the TB enabled models do also. It is probably the adaptor you're using.
 
I actually don't agree with you. The Pro was introduced when the regular MacBook was still being sold by Apple in their stores. The Pro was named the Pro (in my opinion) based on how much more it could offer than the regular MacBook. I doubt this has anything to do with marketing. The computers will keep seeing updates in the coming years and I'm sure that the Pro will offer a lot more than the Air (in terms of processing) unless Apple decides to combine them.

Then why not keep the names PowerBook and iBook?

Honestly putting an HDMI port on the MBP is doing exactly what pisses you off, limiting the MBP to consumers. Why would anyone spend $2500 on a laptop that can't output any resolution passed 1080p? And how could you possibly need 4-5 USB ports on a laptop?

Except that Apple isn't catering to the consumer. They're catering to iSheep. A business class laptop has a VGA output for presentations. Not a mac. A consumer laptop has a HDMI output for TV. Not a mac. Ultimately, the mac caters to the "I have money" crowd, and everyone else just sort of has to... adapt.
 
Actually the pro line is named the pro line because the marketing people thought it would sell more. It has nothing to do with anything else except for marketing.

Actually, that is incorrect. If you read the new Steve Jobs bio you will see that when he returned to Apple he wanted a pro and consumer line of products. Long story short, he axes everything but 4 major products, two groups to pursue, and drove their production with that in mind.

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as someone mentioned before...i started out a 100% pro apple user and in the past few years that has only diminished. i still like the MBP's obviously and everything apple really, but PC sure does offer a lot of better options, with more flexibility, for much cheaper. so like i said, im going to get a new top of the line 15" MBP and then build a nice pc

With some ups and downs, apple has been selling computers for 35 years now. If I remember correctly, they were never really flexible with their hardware, and almost always more expensive than the average PC. Apple computers were never known for their reliability, they had quite some disasters in the past. Adopting new design ideas and technologies is more of an Apple trademark, and a better than average customer service.

For the last 5 years, apples computer business (laptops + desktops) has been growing faster than the market _each_ quarter. They achieved this without aggressive pricing.

The Air was Apple last big "invention" in the computer market. Now the rest of the market is following with the Ultrabooks, while Apple is probably preparing the next big step.

But of course, you know how Apple could do much better, and how they are doing it all wrong now.
 
I could not agree more with the OP. I remember when the Pro line of Mac products had a great deal of respect in the IT crowd. Powerbooks had high-end features and ran Unix which made them powerful and highly desirable by the pro IT community.

I understand that Apple realized that their pot-o-gold is consumer line of products. It has made them a great deal of money but I wish they had the desire to grab the niche pro market like they used too.

I used to be able to justify the cost of Apple products with the performance. You could say well my MBP might have been xxx amount of dollars more that brand x but it comes with all they added features.

I'm not sure I see that anymore.

The MBP Pro line ships with 4 GB of memory. Does that not just amaze you? It does me when I see almost every shipping PC Pro Notebook with 8, 12, and 16GB of memory! Then to add insult to injury, they are $500 to $1k cheaper with USB 3.0, and HDMI ports.

I like OS X but Windows 7 is also a great OS. I use both daily and each has its Pros and Cons. Though that line is pretty hard to see anymore. I could move back to Windows 7 and not really miss OS X much. I also suspect that Windows 8 will be a success for MS.

Somebody before me posted that if you don't like what you see then you should shop elsewhere. That is exactly what I plan to do for my next upgrade.

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Sorry, but what iOS features are in Lion that you are forced to use?

And there's a rumor that the Mac Pro will be discontinued? How about waiting to see if this actually happens (and there's no suitable replacement) before getting upset?
 
I could not agree more with the OP. I remember when the Pro line of Mac products had a great deal of respect in the IT crowd. Powerbooks had high-end features and ran Unix which made them powerful and highly desirable by the pro IT community.

I understand that Apple realized that their pot-o-gold is consumer line of products. It has made them a great deal of money but I wish they had the desire to grab the niche pro market like they used too.

I used to be able to justify the cost of Apple products with the performance. You could say well my MBP might have been xxx amount of dollars more that brand x but it comes with all they added features.

I'm not sure I see that anymore.

The MBP Pro line ships with 4 GB of memory. Does that not just amaze you? It does me when I see almost every shipping PC Pro Notebook with 8, 12, and 16GB of memory! Then to add insult to injury, they are $500 to $1k cheaper with USB 3.0, and HDMI ports.

I like OS X but Windows 7 is also a great OS. I use both daily and each has its Pros and Cons. Though that line is pretty hard to see anymore. I could move back to Windows 7 and not really miss OS X much. I also suspect that Windows 8 will be a success for MS.

Somebody before me posted that if you don't like what you see then you should shop elsewhere. That is exactly what I plan to do for my next upgrade.

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yeah i hear ya man. ill stick with a MBP for now but im def getting a desktop pc, instead of an imac and it will easily be twice as powerful for probably cheaper. then ill have the best of both worlds.
 
And you base this grandiose conclusion on . . . what? Were you privy to the decision making within Apple re naming the Macbook Pro?

i agree its just like the car makers and appliance hustlers who use the term 'professional grade.' its just madison avenue/cupertino hype. i have a mbp, great laptop but nothing 'professional' about it. unless the aluminum opposed to the white plastic on the defunct macbook makes it 'professional.'
 
I love my MBP and I always took the "Pro" moniker not to mean it's for "pro" work or anything, but it just meant it's Apple's "best" or "high end" model in that category. There is no iMac Pro because it's a bit crippled (IMHO) as a desktop computer. It uses mobile parts and is pretty much closed. For most people, this is good enough if they want a big screen type desktop computer.

All laptops are "fixed", to a degree so Apple gets away with the locked design on them. On desktops, Apple gets criticized, mainly by hardcore PC desktop users who like the open design of desktops with slots, swappable video cards and even CPU's.

I have a Windows 7 PC that I use for games mostly, but I do all of my Apple ecosystem stuff on Apple products. This includes the management of my iPod music through iTunes, iPhone and iPad apps through iTunes, Photo's through iPhoto and some other stuff. None of my iOS devices are ever connected to my Windows 7 PC.

There was a time where OSX was miles better than Windows, but Windows 7 is actually really good and some will say it's better than Lion. I think Snow Leopard is about equal with Windows 7 and everything prior to Windows 7 was garbage.
 
My "15" 2010 MacBook Pro" is anything but professional. It's clearly just another clever & deceptive way to sell them to those who believe the Apple hype machine.

Don't get me wrong, it's one of my favorites, but it's just a regular hi quality laptop. Obscenely overpriced, at a full one thousand dollars more than the equally configured and every bit as high quality ThinkPad T510, I bought during the same month.

Killing off the much loved PowerBook moniker, was a very stupid move on Steve Jobs part. While not surprising he'd do such a thing, it was nonetheless a needless bone headed move.
 
they are all rumors....even if they are true, then that is their choice to ditch the pro markets....there are many more powerful laptops than the MBP.
 
All this iOS stuff is actually incredibly intuitive with the trackpad. I only got my Pro a week ago and I'm still in amazement over how cool it is. It works well for my college work and web design. Being able to seamlessly switch between desktop tailored for my needs (one for internet, other for dreamweaver, photoshop etc.). I don't think Apple are forgetting us, and I trust them not to make a slimmer version that gets hotter. Apple isn't like that. They wouldn't sacrifice any power or let it get hot just for a slimmer Pro.

If it bothers you that much, go buy a ****** Dell or something.
 
No, he really doesn't.

They killed the Xserve, Final Cut X is a POS no one that does heavy video wants, and there is rumor of killing the Mac Pro. Which the iMac is NOT a good replacement for if you do lots of video work.


I work at a 40,000 person company that does a lot of video work and uses XServes and Mac Pros for their editing. The video teams have already cried they don't want the new Final Cut, when the XServes go our of warranty and unsupported they will be replaced with Windows Servers, and when the Mac pros die they will probably be replaced with PC workstations.

Also only selling 27in displays means we cant buy them as your average company desk cant fit an iMac and a 27in display, so we are using Mac Pros and two 23in displays. If the Mac pro is discontinued then we will be getting iMacs instead of Pros to go with a 23in display. That's a lot less per machine that Apple will be getting from us.

Apple is pushing themselves out of the corporate professional market.

Apple like any other company is in it for the money. They have been for a very long time. The fact is the Mac Pro doesn't make a lot of money, and XServe was losing them money (BTW get Linux servers rather than windows, they are more stable). It's a very limited market. I'd hazard a guess that Apple makes more in profit from an iMac sale than they do a Mac Pro sale, simply because of economies of scale.

Once Thunderbolt peripherals get established (and they will now PC Ultrabooks are beginning to hit the market), then in all likelihood an iMac will be as upgradable as a Mac Pro, and will happily do what is required of it.

Lion is only at 10.7.2, and will likely improve in performance and reliability. I had issues with Snow Leopard until 10.6.5 . You can still get to terminal, you can still launch with the dock or with Spotlight. No one is forcing you to use the new features. So stop with the entitlement whining and accept that Apple has changed their focus. They are now primarily a consumer electronics company. The iPhone and iPad make more money than the rest of the operation.

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My "15" 2010 MacBook Pro" is anything but professional. It's clearly just another clever & deceptive way to sell them to those who believe the Apple hype machine.

Don't get me wrong, it's one of my favorites, but it's just a regular hi quality laptop. Obscenely overpriced, at a full one thousand dollars more than the equally configured and every bit as high quality ThinkPad T510, I bought during the same month.

Killing off the much loved PowerBook moniker, was a very stupid move on Steve Jobs part. While not surprising he'd do such a thing, it was nonetheless a needless bone headed move.

PowerBook was killed because they no longer use PowerPC chips

and PLEASE, the ThinkPad T510 is awful. I see lots of them returned faulty. They can't take heavy use.
 
Can't honestly say that any of decisions you mentioned have affected me personally but it is disappointing to see how they've abandoned some their oldest customers. Even if it's not you now, it could easily be you next.
 
I actually don't agree with you. The Pro was introduced when the regular MacBook was still being sold by Apple in their stores. The Pro was named the Pro (in my opinion) based on how much more it could offer than the regular MacBook. I doubt this has anything to do with marketing. The computers will keep seeing updates in the coming years and I'm sure that the Pro will offer a lot more than the Air (in terms of processing) unless Apple decides to combine them.

IIRC the PowerBook was replaced by the MBP first, the iBook was replaced by the MB later.
 
apple is really beginning to ***** me off, big time. i just dont like where they are heading, and what customers they value. they seem to have forgotten us pro users and are making critical decisions just to support the general public.
For a long time, and certainly since 1997, Apple have been trying to make "pro" tools more accessible to consumers and "prosumers". This isn't a new direction. Despite the fact that when Steve Jobs returned he wanted to concentrate on the 4 quadrants, Apple have been doing a lot to make tools accessible to the public that were previously out of reach of most due to hardware and software costs.

This is certainly true in the audio, graphics and movie fields.

No, he really doesn't.

They killed the Xserve, Final Cut X is a POS no one that does heavy video wants, and there is rumor of killing the Mac Pro. Which the iMac is NOT a good replacement for if you do lots of video work.

I don't really want to get into the FCPX debacle, but it is the first thing most will start touting when this argument comes along so it's difficult to ignore. I don't believe that changes in FCPX have anything to do with "some new direction" or "wanting to get rid of pro users". I believe that Apple genuinely thought the changes they were making made sense. They seem to have taken the issue quite seriously and FCP 9 is now back for sale and they are trying to fix what is missing in FCP X. Either way, if I was an actual pro in the media creation field, I wouldn't be rushing to the latest, early versions of software.

the pro line is named pro for a reason and they seem to be forgetting that. i think the MBA is nice for the general public but lets keep the pro as pro as possible. id like to see the same MBP design with better cooling, more features/ports, and better performance. but no they're going to make a thinner pro that runs blazing hot.that and they're pretty much ditching the mac pro line all together.

The Xserve was ditched for many reasons, which have very little to do with your argument of "Apple abandoning pro-users". The debate rages on the in the Mac Pro sub-forum so you may join it if you wish since I am not going to try and repeat it.

The unsubstantiated rumour of the Mac Pro being killed is just that - an unsubstantiated rumour with no verifiable facts. Apple may be considering a redesign or they may be considering many things. The fact remains that we're waiting for the new chips from Intel. If the Mac Pro is not upgraded once the new chips are out, then I shall come back to this thread and say that you're right. .

The 2011 MBP is far more powerful and has better cooling than the 2009 MBP. By better cooling I mean that it's far more usable since I can actually use the top left corner of the keyboard without feeling like my fingers are getting scalded. This seems like a good direction to me.

also how there trying to implement ios stuff into OSX. i dont want that bloated **** on my OS, i want more flexibility, performance, and simplicity.
I am not sure what you're talking about and I don't think you are either. iOS is essentially a subset of the SDK that Mac OSX runs on. Just because launchpad is in lion does not mean that Lion has "bloated IOS ****".

I find Lion to have flexibility and simplicity. In fact, I prefer many things in Lion to Snow Leopard. Yes, the performance is a smidgeon worse, however that is to be expected and will be resolved. The same thing happened with early versions of Snow Leopard. The debate of where Lion is heading has nothing to do with the "Apple is abandoning pro users!!" argument.

if any other laptop could compare the the MBP i would get it, but for now im going to buy a new MBP. but i tell you what im building a killer desktop PC soon. so much more bang for buck and then ill have the best of both worlds.

Your argument seems to be mainly around the rumours that the latest MBP will be thinner and you're worrying about heat. What's are the most important things to a pro user in any discipline? Hardware performance and good software. In the past Apple have dragged behind in hardware and, luckily, this is no longer the case. Software is available from many vendors, not just Apple.

You can buy mobile workstation laptops from the likes of HP that cost a lot more than Macbook Pros. These are equipped with real pro features such as GPU that are designed for a particular job (hint: not playing games). Apple has not had a laptop in this category since 1997 (and I don't know about the full history before then). How serious were they ever about this market? The argument that this is a "new direction" for Apple is not valid, in my opinion. The majority of you sitting on these forums are "prosumers" and you're complaining that Apple is making things more accessible for you. I don't get it. Not too long ago the software you're using would cost thousands or tens of thousands of dollars. Look at the storage options that Thunderbolt is making available for "prosumers".

All laptops run hot. This is a simple matter of physics. Considering that the current Macbook pros handle the temperatures without shutting down, it's not difficult to fathom that the lower TDP Ivy bridge equipped Mac Book pros will be able to run in a similar fashion, even if the enclosure is slightly smaller.

maybe another usb port or two. an hdmi port instead of the stupid mini dvi that loses the sound. thats basically what i meant by "more ports" and i believe apple should have those ports like every other laptop on the market these days.

I am sorry, but now you have lost me completely. Your first argument was that Apple was moving away from the pro market and that was upsetting you. Now your argument is that it's because there is no HDMI port? A cheap dongle will sort that out for you and HDMI is not something that is a necessity on a "pro" mobile workstation. You are complaining that display port does not carry sound? What kind of pro work requires HDMI and sound? Watching movies? HDMI can only carry a signal up to 1080p. It's not good enough for "pro" work since a "pro" monitor would use a higher resolution hence why DVI and DP are the standard right now for connecting a monitor.

The 15 and 17 inch MBP models have quite a lot of USB ports. If you require more, then I suggest that you get a USB hub. Where should the additional ports that you foresee be added? Where do you see wasted space?


Frankly, judging by the way you write and the amount of effort you have expanded to present a legible and well thought-out argument, it's difficult to take you seriously.
 
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