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Is Apple still serious about the professional market?

deconstruct60 said:
Was the all software folks and were they working on the core elements of the program ?
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"We certainly do. Folks who left were in support, not engineering. Next release will be awesome."

Deepshade said:
It's all getting a bit late. With Sandy Bridge announced for release at the end of this year, by the time the new Mac Pros come out they will have 6 months before they are out of date.

Apple may be leading the gizmo market. But for creatives and power users - it looks like Apple have changed from innovators and leaders to embarrassed followers.

A sad day....MacPro turns into MacSlow
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Sandy Bridge-EN and -EP for servers and workstations aren't coming until H2 2011.
 
Eric S. said:
Of course they have to separate them for accounting purposes, but those are options, not actually different computer models.
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Exactly. They have different SKUs for the different base variants of each model for inventory purposes. Kinda the same way with cars. You have a car model (such as Camero), a trim package (SS, LS, etc.,) and then other build to order options.

I think this might be a more semantic than substantive debate to be having though.


Lethal
 
well ,i'm really disappointed too from last wwdc...
ok it was all about I-Os 4...i knew it...
but WWDC used to be for Real Mac too.....
it seems to me that an era has come to the end...
i see a great risk in here...
sounds like the Mac Pro Era has ended...
and i'm scared ...in the future to see the "new" I-oS
replacing OSX....
this makes me really sad...
i know...the money are behind the i-devices....
but i was believin Apple was less..followin this market..
infact..no rumors here about new Imac or MAC Pro....
am i exageratin?
nO more Desktop till 2011?maybe with Sandy Bridge technology?
WE WILL SEE IT.....i hope i'm wrong
for me Apple can't afford to exclude the Pro Market from its line...
it will be a complete fail and will start some sort of migration back to Pc,
to be honest...i really don't care a Pro machine to game with....
i need a Pro Mac to work hard and safe as in the past.
 
form 9to5 mac:

Nobody wants to really think about it, but perhaps Fake Steve/Dan Lyons is right in today's Newsweek story? The writing is on the wall for the Macintosh. This week's WWDC was all about the iOS, the Apple Design Awards were only iOS apps and Mac OS 10.7? Not even a hint. Mac IT technical tracks? Gone.

Apple killed the 'I'm a Mac' commercials recently and has been pumping out iPad and iPhone ads like crazy. It isn't hard to make the argument that the Macintosh is being pushed to the side.

But then Lyons starts to put on his Fake Steve face a bit:

For one thing, with iOS 4, Steve gets to decide which apps can run on the platform. I mean he can literally pick and choose the apps. He gets to approve each one. He has total control. You know how Steve is about control. Also, those apps can only be sold in Steve’s online app store, and he gets a 30 percent slice of the revenue. Also, there are ads. I know, Mac—you were always the platform that was so pure, with no ads, no crapware. That was what Steve always said he loved most about you.Remember how Steve used to go on and on about how people didn’t want their personal computers cluttered up with garish ads like some ugly stock car circling a NASCAR track? Well, not anymore. This new iOS 4 is a full-blown tart, and will come splattered with ads everywhere. And guess what? Steve thinks it’s great. In fact, he’s the one behind it. He’s making the ads himself! And he’s keeping 40 percent of the revenue.

Newsweek story aside, I think the most telling hint that the Mac is going to be reduced to bit part was when Jobs gave the Car/Truck analogy at the AllThingsD conference. Initially all vehicles were trucks, but most people found that they didn't need a truck and they now use car.

"I think PCs are going to be like trucks. Fewer people will need them. And this is going to make some people uneasy."

Steve Ballmer, being...Steve Ballmer, the next day said "That's why they call them Mac Trucks!" not realizing Jobs was also talking about Microsoft's core Windows business as well. And how many times in the past decade has Jobs made Ballmer eat his words? What does Microsoft have in Mobile?

It makes sense too. If you can possibly imagine it (and having an iPad without a computer for a few days helps), most people don't need a $1000 Mac. In fact, I'd say within a year, the iOS devices could be over half of the US population's only computer.

And remember how the iPod has scaled up in functionality and down in price? The first 5GB iPod cost $500 and has a B&W LCD screen. In five years, is it hard to imagine a $99 iPod touch for developing countries? A $250 iPad?
 
totally agree..Steve has so much power...
and its not only me....
this is some kind of Big Bro' ...
a soft way of...i mean...don't wanna be too serious....
in USA i heard som'thing about Antitrust and Itunes....
maybe thats why we have Bing now in the I-0s 4....
BUT...what i really hope is to see the PRO line still alive in the next months..
i really hope it....
how can a Ipad replace logic on a mac Pro?
how????
i hope to feel soon changes in the wind....
or you'll see a lot of Hackintosh around spreadin around....
ps.
If Pro line will die...next Imac 27 /(wallet decides) Mac pRO 09....will be my last....
i'm not angry ..i'm quite grateful for the past....i'm just sad....
 
xgman said:
It makes sense too. If you can possibly imagine it (and having an iPad without a computer for a few days helps), most people don't need a $1000 Mac. In fact, I'd say within a year, the iOS devices could be over half of the US population's only computer.
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In a year? Half the US population? It feels that way but this is pure hyperbole. iOS devices will always be a niche. Android and its open nature will overwhelm Apple. But who cares? We'll still have a great iPhone. SJ only seems to care about great products and not market share.

Most people who buy iOS devices have computers. Are they suddenly going to throw them away? Not when the novelty of the iPad wears off and the realization that one has an expensive toy sinks in.

1 million PC's are bought daily. If SJ doesn't want a piece of that any longer the Dell's, HP's, and Lenovo's of the world will be glad to pick up the slack. They may not make the margins that Apple does with its Macs. But that's the point. People still want computers and many of them still want Macs. Macs still have huge margins. That's why Apple's fumbling the Mac ball is so puzzling.
 
The Mac Pro hardware is becoming out of date for its price, and Apple is having a hard time putting useful components into their iMacs because of its size. The iMac has essentially turned into the iPad version of a MacBook Pro. They pretty much use mobile components in a Desktop computer, which isn't good enough. The Mac Pros have lost their bang for the buck. The only thing keeping people coming back to Apple is probably OS X.

Apple needs to do an entire makeover of its desktop line.
 
xgman said:
I think the most telling hint that the Mac is going to be reduced to bit part was when Jobs gave the Car/Truck analogy at the AllThingsD conference.
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I agree completely.

REM314 said:
The iMac has essentially turned into the iPad version of a MacBook Pro. They pretty much use mobile components in a Desktop computer, which isn't good enough.
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Well at least the latest iMacs use Lynnfield cpus which are desktop versions, instead of the mobile cpus all iMacs used to have.
 
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