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I think its definately slower , even the official apple store in my country after release day still has desert ti for pm available to pick up on 21sep. Guess one can only push their luck that far even for apple. think people still has some doubts on their AI implementation due to the full version of AI release it will be 18.4 which might as well skip this generation and go for 17
 
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Black 16 pro max 512gb has gone to 3-4 weeks here. For $2500AUD find it hard to believe they had lots, with the way the economy is.
 
Have you seen Boost mobile - no trade in - $0/month for the 16 Pro ?

$65/month service.

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Not much of a deal imo because this very same plan without the phone attached to it is only $25/mo. And it's only $65/mo if you get the base model 128GB Pro and stay on the plan for 3 years… HARD PASS.✋🏼
Terrible “deal” IMO for people who are bad at math.

Luckily for Boost Mobile 5 out of 4 Americans are bad at math.
This Boost Mobile plan may seem expensive, but it allows you to upgrade yearly for free with the Pro or less than $15/mo. for the bigger Pro Max so it's a good deal for those who upgrade and trade in every year.
 
This Boost Mobile plan may seem expensive, but it allows you to upgrade yearly for free with the Pro or less than $15/mo. for the bigger Pro Max so it's a good deal for those who upgrade and trade in every year.
Plus NO trade in needed which really sweetens the deal.
You can sell your old iPhone and apply that cash towards the monthly...
 
This Boost Mobile plan may seem expensive, but it allows you to upgrade yearly for free with the Pro or less than $15/mo. for the bigger Pro Max so it's a good deal for those who upgrade and trade in every year.
Still not a deal, because Apple will pretty much always give you at least 50% of last year's device in trade-in value toward the new one, especially the Pro series.

For example, I'm trading in my 15 Pro Max for $650 (that I originally paid $550 for after trading in my 14 Pro Max last year) and financing the 16 Pro Max through ACMI for $22.87 and will be activating it on my $25/mo US Mobile plan (taxes and fees included), coming out to a monthly cost of $47.87/mo for the phone AND plan vs $70.55 (plus tax) for the same exact device and comparable plan on Boost, and I can also upgrade every year by just doing this same trade-in process again and again (as I always have).

Boost isn't giving you a free phone. They've inflated the cost of their base plan to trick people into believing they're getting a heavily subsidized iPhone, effectively still charging you for said phone just through the plan instead, and clearly it's working...
 
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Still not a deal, because Apple will pretty much always give you at least 50% of last year's device in trade-in value toward the new one, especially the Pro series.

For example, I'm trading in my 15 Pro Max for $650 (that I originally paid $550 for after trading in my 14 Pro Max last year) and financing the 16 Pro Max through ACMI for $22.87 and will be activating it on my $25/mo US Mobile plan (taxes and fees included), coming out to a monthly cost of $47.87/mo for the phone AND plan vs $70.55 (plus tax) for the same exact device and comparable plan on Boost, and I can also upgrade every year by just doing this same trade-in process again and again (as I always have).

Boost isn't giving you a free phone. They've inflated the cost of their base plan to trick people into believing they're getting a heavily subsidized iPhone, effectively still charging you for said phone just through the plan instead, and clearly it's working...
It depends on how you look at it.

If you are NOT trading in, the ACMI is about $45 plus monthly service - mine is TMO $45 for seniors 55+.

Boost is $65 plus tax for no trade in as well, upgrade every year, and comes out cheaper than TMO in my case.

So it comes down to which service you have.

If I sell my iPhone 14+ on eBay, I'd expect to net around $450 ($130 more than Apple trade in). That amount applied towards the monthly Boost will pay for about 7 monthly payments or spread out over 12 months: $21 / month.
 
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Not much of a deal imo because this very same plan without the phone attached to it is only $25/mo. And it's only $65/mo if you get the base model 128GB Pro and stay on the plan for 3 years… HARD PASS.✋🏼

Terrible “deal” IMO for people who are bad at math.

Luckily for Boost Mobile 5 out of 4 Americans are bad at math.

Exactly. Boost isn’t trying to sell iPhones as the guy up above suggested. Boost wants to boost their subscriber count for their network.

You can't directly compare the $25/month plan with the $65/month plan as the $25/month plan doesn't include North America Connect or Global Talk and Text. Those two features would be an additional $20/month bringing the cost of the $25/month plan to $45/month.

Unlimited with add-ons:
$45/month x 36 months = $1,620 plus cost of iPhone 16 Pro ($999) = $2,619

Infinite Access for iPhone:
$65/month x 36 months = $2,340 plus iPhone 16 Pro at no extra cost = $2,340

Which is the "better deal" can depend on whether the customer wants/needs North America Connect and Global Talk and Text.
 
You can't directly compare the $25/month plan with the $65/month plan as the $25/month plan doesn't include North America Connect or Global Talk and Text. Those two features would be an additional $20/month bringing the cost of the $25/month plan to $45/month.

Unlimited with add-ons:
$45/month x 36 months = $1,620 plus cost of iPhone 16 Pro ($999) = $2,619

Infinite Access for iPhone:
$65/month x 36 months = $2,340 plus iPhone 16 Pro at no extra cost = $2,340

Which is the "better deal" can depend on whether the customer wants/needs North America Connect and Global Talk and Text.
Wow, very helpful math!

Do you know if the Visible + Premium plan @ $45/month is better with Global talk/text?

Looking at moving my incoming TMO 16 Pro to Visible with the $10 discount / month for 5 years, comes out to $35/month which beats my current $45 TMO 55+ Essentials plan.
 
It’s 9:27 AM ET and several Pro models are still shipping on 9/20. Several Pro Max models are at 10/2-10/7. Wondering how it’s going for Apple. Is this slower than in years past or am I just remembering wrong?
I'm sure there are some just sitting back in order to look at reviews and forum post about the phone before they pull the trigger this year.
 
Random question but has there ever been an iPhone that got bad reviews? I can't think of one.
There’s been individual areas that were criticized. The original iPhone for not having 3G, the high cost, and that recessed headphone jack. iPhone 4S for not including 4G. Several years of iPhones for no USB-C. iPhone 14 Pro was criticized for the camera not being much different in quality from the 13 Pro.
 
I just found my old iPhone 13 PM pre order mail confirmation back in the day. I pre-ordered 1 hour after the pre-order opened and I received my phone on october 6, about one week and an half from launch. Last Friday at the same time, most pro models have shipping estimation around the same date. I think people speculate too much.

It makes me laugh when I read that some people miss the days when you camp outside to get your phone. It's not like concert tickets lol. It's a good thing those days are over for good. It's just a damn phone, it is supposed to be easy to buy one and nowadays, it is normal people upgrade less often as before and Apple (and obviously other companies) knows that. Also, 10 years ago there's not so many models releasing each year. Now we have like 4 models, many colours and storage configurations, so its perfectly normal they won't sold out as fast as 7-8 years ago.
 
I was thinking about grabbing the
A lot slower. Remember the good old days of lines outside stores, excitement, band of brothers style bonding with those around you. Online orders would often slip to November within minutes. The store would crash. We will never see that again.
I remember those days! I would get a ticket and go somewhere else. then receive a text when it was my turn
 
Do you know if the Visible + Premium plan @ $45/month is better with Global talk/text?

While the Visible+ plan is $45/month, that includes taxes. Boost's "Unlimited" plan does not include taxes. Plus, if you sign up for a year of Visible+ at $395 the monthly price is the equivalent of around $32.92. The Visible+ plan also includes one "free" day per month of "Global Pass" for usage when out of the country.
 
"according to [industry analyst] Ming-Chi Kuo, both the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are underselling their iPhone 15 Pro counterparts. Kuo estimated that sales of all four iPhone 16 models reached about 37 million units in the first weekend after Apple began accepting pre-orders, which is down nearly 13 percent compared to first-weekend sales of the iPhone 15 series last year."
 
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this is actually an incredible deal, they really do need help selling this year’s incremental update
The actual no phone data/call plan would be no more than $15. If this is a one year plan you would actually save 1000-50x12=$400.
Since nothing comes for free I assume this actually is a two year plan and you would be better off with a no phone plan and buy it yourself.
 
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