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is it an iPad killer?
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I never found a use for iPads or tablets beyond perhaps reading.
To your question here is the main test at the rMB replacing the tablet.
Take your rMB to the restroom with you the next time you need to be in there for a few minutes and would like some reading material. Report back on how that worked out for you.
Dead to you because you can't imagine a use for it.
It is not dead to me, I have 3 iPads doing a huge range of tasks daily in my work and household. I know or know of people who use them exclusively in their work, particularly art and music, but other things too.
So, speak for yourself instead of deeming a tool to be useless or dead just because you don't need or use it. I'm sick of seeing this ignorant attitude on these forums.
You are assuming that I can't find a use for it. I am referring to the iPad's weak market position and development the last years.
Why would you use an iPad for art or music when you could get a Surface 3 / Surface Pro 3 and use a precise pen with pressure sensitivity and have USB ports for external audio equipment? And theyre dockable to full size monitors, mouse for precision input, keyboard, thumb drives, etc...
It isn't that the iPad can't be used for things, but it's so limited and makes the most simple tasks more difficult.
I'd have the rMB over an iPad but that price means it sure isn't an iPad killer. It also can't easily be used walking around, and is less practical in situations like public transport.
Under advice of counsel, my new Macbook will not give a statement at this time. Thank you.
I came very close to that opinion, but ultimately decided no.
Don't discount the tablet form factor. It is still more comfortable to stand in a hall or walk and use an iPad than a MacBook. It's still nicer (in my opinion) to annotate PDFs on a tablet.
The iPad is still quicker to "pick up and go" than a MacBook. Plus, there is a hefty investment in iOS apps that would have be left behind for many users.
That's not to say I don't think the iPad can learn a few things from the MacBook.
Don't discount the tablet form factor. It is still more comfortable to stand in a hall or walk and use an iPad than a MacBook. It's still nicer (in my opinion) to annotate PDFs on a tablet.
The iPad is still quicker to "pick up and go" than a MacBook. Plus, there is a hefty investment in iOS apps that would have be left behind for many users.
That's not to say I don't think the iPad can learn a few things from the MacBook.
I have an iPad Air 2, and at work it's definitely at iPad killer for people using them with keyboards. Now that it has a retina display and weighs about as much as an iPad with a keyboard case, it's definitely an iPad killer in work scenarios where I need to get real work done between meetings. The iPad was OK, but for my work the Macbook is superior.
That said, at home I still overwhelmingly prefer the iPad. I mostly consume content at home and the iPad is still way nicer for those scenarios in my experience. I've had the rMB for about two weeks now, and now that the newness has worn off I'm back to the iPad at the house.
It's the best competition to the iPad for sure, but it depends on the use-case and software in the end.
That said, at home I still overwhelmingly prefer the iPad. I mostly consume content at home and the iPad is still way nicer for those scenarios in my experience. I've had the rMB for about two weeks now, and now that the newness has worn off I'm back to the iPad at the house.
It's the best competition to the iPad for sure, but it depends on the use-case and software in the end.
On an ipad you can play 3D games smoothly, on a Macbook you can't. So it won't kill the ipad.
To the people who are saying that they are for completely different purposes, what are you doing on your Macbook that you can't with an iPad and keyboard cover?
To the people who are saying that they are for completely different purposes, what are you doing on your Macbook that you can't with an iPad and keyboard cover?
Agree completely with this sentiment, with the caveat that it is also exactly my use case scenario, so I'm biased. MBA (soon rMB, hopefully next week it arrives!) for work, iPad for personal use. iPad has completely replaced my need for a personal laptop, and I can't see myself going back.
Now I realise that a lot of people have one machine that serves both personal and professional purposes, but I don't like to clutter/mix my professional use machine with personal stuff, games, pictures, files, etc.
I also have a Mini as a household media server that also serves as a more detailed home video editor (when creating epic films, like summer vacations. Most of the short flicks like birthday's and weekend getaways or the kids events get done solely on iPad or iPhone - iMovie for Mac is still a much more featured app on OS X than iOS). But all photo editing is done on iPad now with various excellent apps. Pixelmator is my wife's favorite.
Totally wrong there. iPod Mini cannibalized iPod, iPhone completely decimated iPod, iPad over Mac, iPad Air over Macbook Pro,...Obviously the best example is the iPhone killing the iPod.
Apple is not like normal corporations.
As for me, I use my iPad now for maybe 30 minutes a day after buying the new Macbook, down from 4-5 hours.
My ideal setup:
iPhone 6+
Retina MacBook
Retina MacBook Pro + Dock + 24" Monitor
Current Setup:
iPhone 6+
iPad Air 2
MSFT Surface 3
Retina MacBook Pro + Dock + 24" Monitor
I may sell/return the Surface and the Air and buy me one of these.
iPhone 6+
Retina MacBook
Retina MacBook Pro + Dock + 24" Monitor
Current Setup:
iPhone 6+
iPad Air 2
MSFT Surface 3
Retina MacBook Pro + Dock + 24" Monitor
I may sell/return the Surface and the Air and buy me one of these.
iPad doesn't replace full OS applications
I have a iPad and various Mac computers, and for me there is a world of difference in what I use the machines for.
1) Office Apps - yes, there are "light" equivalents on iOS, but these do not have all of the features I require, and actually working on the tiny iPad screen without "proper" cut and paste, a file system, and multi-tasking is (for me!) a lot less productive than on Mac OS
2) Many applications that I use for development, virtual machines etc are simply not available on iOS, or require far more memory (and sometimes CPU power) than can be provided by a tablet.
3) Generally, I find using a full-sized screen, keyboard and mouse or trackpad to be a lot easier to use than prodding the screen with my fingers, especially when using a keyboard with the iPad. I'm surprised that people do music and video editing on a iPad out of choice if they have a Mac available to them - but each to their own!
iPad is great for consumption (and light productivity - I'm typing this on my iPad 2 with Logitech keyboard), but the productivity experience is better on my Mac Book.
I have a iPad and various Mac computers, and for me there is a world of difference in what I use the machines for.
1) Office Apps - yes, there are "light" equivalents on iOS, but these do not have all of the features I require, and actually working on the tiny iPad screen without "proper" cut and paste, a file system, and multi-tasking is (for me!) a lot less productive than on Mac OS
2) Many applications that I use for development, virtual machines etc are simply not available on iOS, or require far more memory (and sometimes CPU power) than can be provided by a tablet.
3) Generally, I find using a full-sized screen, keyboard and mouse or trackpad to be a lot easier to use than prodding the screen with my fingers, especially when using a keyboard with the iPad. I'm surprised that people do music and video editing on a iPad out of choice if they have a Mac available to them - but each to their own!
iPad is great for consumption (and light productivity - I'm typing this on my iPad 2 with Logitech keyboard), but the productivity experience is better on my Mac Book.
For me, yes
I currently have a late 2010 MBA, 1st gen retina iPad, and a 5S. Soon I'll have the 1.3 512 SG rMB and will be selling my iPad and MBA. Then in just a few months I'll be able to upgrade my phone and will sell the 5S for a 6S+.
I definitely like the iPad, but I find that the rMB and 6+ are both more productive and provide the best possible experiences in their respective domains. The iPad tries to be the best of both but ultimately fails to provide the experience of a full computer or full smartphone.
6+ and rMB are just so good.
I currently have a late 2010 MBA, 1st gen retina iPad, and a 5S. Soon I'll have the 1.3 512 SG rMB and will be selling my iPad and MBA. Then in just a few months I'll be able to upgrade my phone and will sell the 5S for a 6S+.
I definitely like the iPad, but I find that the rMB and 6+ are both more productive and provide the best possible experiences in their respective domains. The iPad tries to be the best of both but ultimately fails to provide the experience of a full computer or full smartphone.
6+ and rMB are just so good.
Yes and no, they are both better at some things and worse at others. For me the rMB will replace the iPad as the computer I take with me when I go out the door but I will still use my iPad at home.
I agree. I don't understand why people can compare this to an iPad. An iPad is for fun and nothing else.
As a follow-up to my other post, I still use both. I need my laptop with me at all times for work, but I like to have my iPad with me as well for personal uses. When traveling, I can now carry both in less space and weight than a single rMBP. This is the power of the rMB to me, and they both slip in to my old 11in neoprene case.
Actually that's exactly how you scale and many corporations are in that exact habit. Just look at Univer. They own about 6 brands for every category in which they operate and these brands all compete against each other in the consumer's mind.
Not convinced yet? Look at the power tool sector. You'll be shocked who owns who and yet these different products all "cannibalise" each other. The agricultural machinery market is the same.
I'm confused. You first say not a chance, then you say your MBA already killed the iPad for you so you sold it - and then you say the devices are completely different and shouldn't be compared this way?
So...which is it? (for you)