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Is Lion lining up to be a disaster for Apple?

I see no indication that Lion has been a disaster. The download was fast for me and many others, which was one area that could have been a disaster.

All the reviews seem very positive so far. The MAS reviews are flooding in with 5 star ratings.

I think they took a lot of risks and it seems like it paid off...as always (like someone else said)!
 
Thanks for the responses everyone.

I do appreciate that this is a .0 release and there will of course be bugs.

I am just surprised that they are in some of the headline features.

Someone posted that there are hundreds of thousands who have downloaded it and won't care or know any different. However those who frequent forums like this seem to be finding a fair few issues.

There is lots of it that works, but some major parts that are a bit wonky, especially considering there is a relatively small hardware mix.

Things like the mission control windows sitting on top of desktop spaces, etc is not great and show have been fixed before a GM, especially if it is a well know issue.

Windows 8 is a fair way off, so delaying Lion another month or two to make sure it was "right" would have been time well spent. Although I guess the release of Mac mini, Air, etc forces the hand a bit.

Is it too much to ask to activate Mission Control and it work as described? I think not
 
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works fine for me so far. If I find a way to reenable java 1.5 today, I'll have zero transition issues.
 
jonathanc said:
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Apple has built a reputation on the cliche of "it just works", but clearly in this case "it just doesn't!"
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No, and no.

Apple's reputation for ease of use has been built by the marketplace itself: no one makes you buy a Mac, an iPod, an iPhone, an iPad or a flippin' OS upgrade. Apple's reputation is formidable. Its repeat customers are legion. If that simple truth really bothers you, you can do something about it and not buy whatever the next Apple thing is. Money talks! But judging from the early reviews of Lion, you would be missing something pretty useful by skipping Lion.

All OS releases have bugs. It's the nature of software design. The final "test" amounts to just calling it good and cutting the thing loose to the general public. Sure, in a way it's just another beta test. But it's where Lion meets damaged machines, poorly maintained systems, bizarrely constructed third-party programs, and other wild animals of the world of ones and zeros. Yes, real live bugs will also be encountered, worked on, and fixed in future point releases. All those people who helped beta-test Lion, however, have already addressed many of the bugs. If Lion still had any catastrophic failure issues, the gold master would still be a thing of the future.

Now we are all beta testers, so let's have at it, but in the meantime why not tone down the harsh rhetoric a little. Really, from what's out there in the forums and press, many people are finding that Lion does indeed "just work." They're not all going to write in to Apple or to forums such as MacRumors to say so, though!

I'm always happy when I plug in a new external drive, or a new microwave oven, and it just works. I've never written to the manufacturer to say what a satisfying experience that is. I'm sure that's how it usually goes for Apple, too. (But hey, to you Lion devs: kudos... :) ya done good)
 
Absolutely zero problems here, aside from the fact that not all apps are updated to use Lion's new features (*cough* CHROME! *cough*). Give it time. It's a LOT better than Vista was out of the box.
 
jonathanc said:
What are your thoughts on Lion as an issue for Apple. Will it cause damage?
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In no way shape or form do I feel this will cause any damage. I have it installed on several machines now with virtually no issues. What issues I am having are minor.

Bit of a news flash I guess, people are going to have the odd group of issues with a new OS. For an example of this please see the entire history of the operating system.

Enough of this FUD.
 
The only issue I have is with Microsoft Messenger not willing to log on.
Other than that, zero problems here.
I'll have to adapt to the new stuff, but it's growing on me :)
 
No issues with Lion..so far

Downloaded Lion on my 27" 2010 iMac earlier today and so far no issues, in fact I'd say programs seems to run faster then Leopard.....It feels less bloated and similar to how Windows 7 was so much better than Vista. I have both operating systems and both PC and Apple products, they BOTH have a place in the computing world.
 
Actually this seems rather smooth for a new OS release. Seems much smoother than the release of Snow Leopard where there were eventually long lists of programs circulating that detailed which programs weren't working in SL.

Sure there are some bugs and changes to certain features that some will claim aren't improvements, but on the whole, this seems to be a relatively quiet release in terms of unforeseen issues.
 
Considering all that good of gone wrong, I would say that release has been a success. Maybe if the App Store crashed, if Lion was buggy to the point of being unusable and if the new Air and Minis were only slightly upgraded Apple would have a problem. Instead, everything went of more as less without a hitch and the new OS has had pretty good reviews. This release seems to be par for the course for Apple.
 
I have not personally run into any issues (bugs and such). There are two major problems for me though:

1) AirDrop doesn't work on older computers. I guess I can't blame Apple for this, because it's apparently simply too old of hardware to do the job. But this was a big deal for me. And my iMac is from early 2008. Works on my macbook pro, but without my iMac working, who cares.

2) Launchpad - I was REALLY looking forward to this. Unlike some people here, I like iOS and I want it incorporated into the regular desktop/laptop experience. Unfortunately, I can't rename folders. I CANT DELETE APPS???? And I'm having trouble adding Apps to the launchpad. I CANT DELETE FOLDERS???? Deleting stuff is a very simply feature and I simply can't understand why it's not included from the get-go. It just seems so stupid on Apple's part.

Minor Problem:

1) No support for PowerPC apps - This doesn't really bother me, except I just got Ghost Recon (the original original from like a decade ago). I always loved the game and finally got it for my mac. Somehow I didn't realize it was powerpc. And bam. After playing it for two days and having the time of my life.... no more Ghost Recon again. Thankfully it's the only powerpc app that I have. I just don't understand why there is NO support at all for powerpc. It doesn't seem like a big deal to include, but whatever.
 
Lion was a bit buggy in the beginning after it first installed this afternoon, but after a while, and after a few tweaks to the system preferences, it seems to be getting a bit better, and I'm loving it.
 
The operating system is a bit buggy but that's not what gets me. It's some of the decisions they made which aren't bugs, they are OS changes. That's something they won't change unless there is a huge backlash. What gets me is that as I read these reviews, does nobody see some of these issues? Like the gestures...how does all the reviews LOVE the gestures but a lot of people in these boards HATE them.

It makes me wonder if some of these reviews need to go because their fanboy manner is really ruining in what I expected was a good and honest review. They are just a bunch of old farts disconnected from the real people who use these tools everyday.
 
Bare in mind that most people starting threads/commenting in those kind of threads are the ones with issues. People don't really make threads just to say "hey it works for me!"

You wouldn't ring the firemen to say "theres no fire!" would you? you'd only ring if there WAS
 
No. It's $30 and they're not forcing people to adapt to it. I see it as more of an experiment for the Mac App store then anything.
 
i've had the os for about 4 hours now, and so far everything is working fine (several apps required newer version updates).
 
SSVicious said:
I have not personally run into any issues (bugs and such). There are two major problems for me though:

1) AirDrop doesn't work on older computers. I guess I can't blame Apple for this, because it's apparently simply too old of hardware to do the job. But this was a big deal for me. And my iMac is from early 2008. Works on my macbook pro, but without my iMac working, who cares.

2) Launchpad - I was REALLY looking forward to this. Unlike some people here, I like iOS and I want it incorporated into the regular desktop/laptop experience. Unfortunately, I can't rename folders. I CANT DELETE APPS???? And I'm having trouble adding Apps to the launchpad. I CANT DELETE FOLDERS???? Deleting stuff is a very simply feature and I simply can't understand why it's not included from the get-go. It just seems so stupid on Apple's part.

Minor Problem:

1) No support for PowerPC apps - This doesn't really bother me, except I just got Ghost Recon (the original original from like a decade ago). I always loved the game and finally got it for my mac. Somehow I didn't realize it was powerpc. And bam. After playing it for two days and having the time of my life.... no more Ghost Recon again. Thankfully it's the only powerpc app that I have. I just don't understand why there is NO support at all for powerpc. It doesn't seem like a big deal to include, but whatever.
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Actually, you can rename folders. You have to double or triple click on the name to rename it. Deleting though, I'm not sure yet, as I haven't tried it out.
 
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