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Apple already charges a premium in the EU to subsidise Americans. The market won't accept more.

I, for one, would move not buy any more Apple products if they try to absolutely gouge us in order to keep US prices down. I suspect there are a significant number of people like me.
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I was just typing that exact reply, but since you said it better, I'm just going to agree with you, 100%.
 
Deep down, the democracies of the Western world are beginning to look dangerously like those they sell you as "enemies." In Spain, La Liga censors the internet every weekend, deciding which websites you can visit and which ones you can't, using the excuse of fighting piracy. The EU, in a preliminary report, says that VPNs may need to be prosecuted. In the US, protests are being repressed for political reasons, not to mention overprotective nationalism via tariffs. I think Trump believes that companies can overnight abandon advanced factories and skilled labor trained for decades and start manufacturing on national soil. We're on a downward spiral that will end very badly for everyone. The only ones who will win will be the "enemies" they sell you as guilty because we make it so on a silver platter.
 
Apple already charges a premium in the EU to subsidise Americans. The market won't accept more.

I, for one, would move not buy any more Apple products if they try to absolutely gouge us in order to keep US prices down. I suspect there are a significant number of people like me.
They've been fooling us for years with the dollar to euro conversion to sell more cheaply in the US, and that price drop comes from EU consumers, who pay more for the product and receive far fewer services or receive them much later than in the US.
 
We're so ****ed. As you said with the Switch, who knows what it'll end up costing with the new tariffs? It might actually be cheaper for my co-worker in Ireland to buy me something and bring it with him on a work trip rather than me buying something here in the US.
I was thinking about that. When I worked in one of the NYC Apple Stores, (I left in March 2024), we had tons of foreign customers who were buying here to save on the VAT they would pay at home. For some Europeans, it wasn't much of a savings- literally a few Euros. But for let's say someone from Brazil, an iPhone here was around 45% less expensive. They'd come with a fat wad of cash, and laundry list of Apple products to buy. Having a $5000-$8000 sale of various things to someone from Brazil wasn't an everyday thing, but it wasn't uncommon either.

Now, we'll be the ones buying an iPhone on vacation, scrapping the box and making believe we had it before we left the states.

How pathetic.
 
This really is almost literally true. When you look at the minuscule amount of effort that went into crafting the policy, like none whatsoever, versus the amount of documentation, lies and tortured logic spent trying to justify it to the American people, you really have to wonder what's gone on here. Who spends 0% effort on a plan, and 100% effort obfuscating the plan? Either he's literally insane and surrounded himself with utter morons, or some people made big money on the last massive crash and decided to engineer another one fast before anyone else catches on.
He surrounds himself with incompetent people that does what he says for the sake of making themself rich and powerful, not in the interest of the country or its people.
 
To be honest, even with iPhone made in India. Majority of iPhone parts are still made in China and shipped to India.

The very idea of manufacturing coming to the US is fantasy dream. China, India, Vietnam can produce things with much less cost.
Actually, while you are correct, manufacturing is starting to become quite expensive in China as labor costs have been skyrocketing. Perhaps the struggling Chinese economy might buy manufacturers some time, but they know that diversifying away from China is a must. Vietnam, India, Brazil (lesser extent), Indonesia, etc. will benefit from that. Hell, even Turkey will get a piece.
 
One solution for Apple would be to stockpile the iPhone 17 in countries with a lower import tax (say the UK) for later sale in the US. They then offset this by upping the improvement’s of iOS 19 and then use this to justify charging $50 for an upgrade.

Apple should have gone back to charging for os updates years ago. The only way to get people to open their wallets is to give them meaningful updates. This spurs Apple to make it better and thus makes our devices better too.
What do you mean? For example China has now imposed a 34% tariff on imported US goods. So Apple products will rocket in price in China, which will strangle Apple growth. I don’t think China is looking to negotiate anything. They’ll enjoy watching an idiot who has shot himself in the foot, limping along. Their home grown stuff will benefit enormously which will at least to some extent alleviate their export issues. But as for America, I can’t see any benefit at all because the world won’t suddenly be choosing to make everything expensively in America. It’s just a disaster. It’s the American working class who will get hammered.
Apple have been hammered in Apple recently. All it will do it make more people pick perfectly decent Chinese brands like Huawei, Oppo and Xiaomi who make arguably more experimental phones than Apple.
 
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India may not yet be in the cards due to quality control issues, at least from what I have read. I've heard similar complaints from industry professionals whose production lines were moved to India. Awful quality control overall.
This is true, and it is going to be a while before India can match, although they are getting better and better by the year. Vietnam, Turkey and way down the road, Brazil, will have to come online faster as well, along with domestic production in areas where shipping costs are high.

For instance, I can see manufacturing diversify to 3-4 different countries and assembly and some production moved to the U.S. and Mexico, Turkey for E.U. and China, Vietnam and India for Asia.
 
Not true. Australia won’t put tariffs on china, so apple can still import iPhones to Australia as before. iPhones are NOT exported from the US, so only prices for stuff the US imports or exports will rise.
I am from Australia & i know for a fact iPhone prices down under will be rising like the rest of the world.
 
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Eh, can just keep using my 14 Pro for a bit longer. It works very well, and there isn’t anything I need from the newer models.
I have not seen anything on 15, 16, or the rumors for upcoming 17 to make me need to upgrade. I have the 14 pro max and it works just fine. And I just got the kids the 16 so they'll be good for a few years too.
 
An iPhone will become a status symbol for the absolute richest. I'm sure it won't be a problem for the US president and his friends. An iPhone 16e already costs $800, an iPhone 16 costs around $950 in Denmark where I live. I won't pay more than that.

I've been happy with Apple products, and especially their ecosystem. But if the prices rise to unreasonable amounts, then I'll just put my money on Samsung, they make some pretty good premium products after all.
 
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An iPhone will become a status symbol for the absolute richest. I'm sure it won't be a problem for the US president and his friends. An iPhone 16e already costs $800, an iPhone 16 costs around $950 in Denmark where I live. I won't pay more than that.

I've been happy with Apple products, and especially their ecosystem. But if the prices rise to unreasonable amounts, then I'll just put my money on Samsung, they make some pretty good premium products after all.
Haha guess where Samsung produces their phones. NOT in the US.
 
Isn't the tariff added to the manufacturing price at which Apple imports the phones to US from China, before Apple adds their profit margin? I think it's misleading to calculate the tariff on top of current sales prices.
 
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Only a little, due to the general inflationary pressures that are the fallout of Trump's insane trade war. The items are shipping from China to Australia. Those two countries are not applying any new tariffs to each other.
Incorrect.
Apple's profit margin is falling, it can't push development, parts and manufacturing below ROI, so we will have huge cost increases, some of which will be realized by adjusting Apple's selling prices.

Apple has lost 300 billion dollars in stock market value to date.

I'd be surprised if Apple gave you devices at current price, Australia isn't a developing country is it?
 
I’ll return to this thread in September when the new iPhone is announced and the prices are the same.
 
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Isn't the tariff added to the manufacturing price at the which Apple imports the phones to US from China, before Apple adds their profit margin? I think it's misleading to calculate the tariff on top of current sales prices.

What's the difference? One time you have to add, the other time you have to multiply. Both results are always incompatible for Apple and the consumer.
 
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