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Listen. We are way better off than some other country. I mean the Penguins are totally screwed!!!!

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Of course. Why would you think it wouldn't? Americans pay $2000 for an iPhone and Europeans will pay 3000€ for the same iPhone.
Which would mean less sales in the US AND globally. Sure, the US is a large chunk of Apple's market at 43% - but that's still a minority. As long as Tim Cook has to please shareholders, they probably won't sabotage the other 57% of their revenue.
 
They will increase in many countries anyway because of retaliatory tariffs. I’m not sure how many Americans understand that the price of their exports will rise (leading to a decrease in demand) in any country choosing to impose their own tariffs eg China. At the moment there are few tariffs imposed on America. Trump’s cardboard table is a lie - they are not tariffs.


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Your ZX81-Icon is reminiscent of the deindustrialization that England experienced under 'Republican' Thatcher.
The country has never recovered from this. Will America be any different?
 
They will increase in many countries anyway because of retaliatory tariffs. I’m not sure how many Americans understand that the price of their exports will rise (leading to a decrease in demand) in any country choosing to impose their own tariffs eg China. At the moment there are few tariffs imposed on America. Trump’s cardboard table is a lie - they are not tariffs.
Apple products are not exported from the US, though.
 
Tim Cook could be clever and only import iPhones made in India into the US. That would reduce the tariff from 54% to 26%.

The idiosyncratic thing about the administration is that it acts one way today and another way tomorrow. Many companies have moved from China to Vietnam at Trump's request, and now there are tariffs for Vietnam too.

Vietnam cannot set the tariffs at 0% because it urgently needs every dollar for gradual reconstruction due to a lack of significant tax revenues. Its economy has been based largely on agriculture export (rice) and Bauxit (material in the production of aluminium) and will quickly bleed to death after this rape.
 
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I'm in Australia so Trump's tariffs don't apply.

Wouldn't be surprised if a heap of Americans are seen crossing the Canadian/Mexican borders in order to buy iPhones. They might as well buy a couple for 'friends'.

Suspect old mate's gonna learn that when you do silly stuff that increases tax on items by ~40% for no good reason (using wartime powers in a rather dubious manner), people will find alternatives.
 
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They will increase in many countries anyway because of retaliatory tariffs. I’m not sure how many Americans understand that the price of their exports will rise (leading to a decrease in demand) in any country choosing to impose their own tariffs eg China. At the moment there are few tariffs imposed on America. Trump’s cardboard table is a lie - they are not tariffs.
It is as if a kindergarten made those calculations
 
Well I thought I would upgrade to a 17 Pro Max this year but will see in October what pricing is looking like.
15 Pro Max is still going great, has Apple Intelligence and Visual Intelligence was added with 18.4, so not really missing anything, battery health is now at 95% and lasts a full day.

I wonder if these tariffs will affect some 17 PM parts and have Apple rolling back some upgrades.
 
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i cannot justify upgrading my 12 pro max to a 16 pro max. I prefer to pay the hefty price of a 17 pro max & hang on to it for another 5 years.

I however cannot say i will be getting a iPhone fold anytime soon, i would hate to see the price tag on that one.
 
I'm in Australia so Trump's tariffs don't apply.

Wouldn't be surprised if a heap of Americans are seen crossing the Canadian/Mexican borders in order to buy iPhones. They might as well buy a couple for 'friends'.

Suspect old mate's gonna learn that when you do silly stuff that increases tax on items by ~40% for no good reason (using wartime powers in a rather dubious manner), people will find alternatives.

Prices will rise worldwide. Australia is part of the planet.
 
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It is as if a kindergarten made those calculations
This really is almost literally true. When you look at the minuscule amount of effort that went into crafting the policy, like none whatsoever, versus the amount of documentation, lies and tortured logic spent trying to justify it to the American people, you really have to wonder what's gone on here. Who spends 0% effort on a plan, and 100% effort obfuscating the plan? Either he's literally insane and surrounded himself with utter morons, or some people made big money on the last massive crash and decided to engineer another one fast before anyone else catches on.
 
Not true. Australia won’t put tariffs on china, so apple can still import iPhones to Australia as before. iPhones are NOT exported from the US, so only prices for stuff the US imports or exports will rise.

Apple could very well increase prices across the board to effectively subsidize imports to the US so that their US prices don't rise as much.
 
Apple could very well increase prices across the boards to effectively subsidize imports to the US so that their US prices don't rise as much.
Of course they could, but historically they didn’t. Seems like they have a target profit margin they want to hit and gonna adjust the retail price accordingly.
 
Of course they could, but historically they didn’t. Seems like they have a target profit margin they want to hit and gonna adjust the retail price accordingly.

In recent history there have not been tariffs of this magnitude though.
 
They will increase in many countries anyway because of retaliatory tariffs. I’m not sure how many Americans understand that the price of their exports will rise (leading to a decrease in demand) in any country choosing to impose their own tariffs eg China. At the moment there are few tariffs imposed on America. Trump’s cardboard table is a lie - they are not tariffs.
People also need to realise that the retaliatory tariffs will be against the US only.

The rest of the world will be continuing on as before, other than the indirect effects, and some increased costs of components that were captured by tariffs. In time imports from the US will be replaced by imports from countries that now have a cost advantage.

Buying a Chinese made phone in the EU will be the exact same as it was before these tariffs came into effect - we do not pay the 54% China has to pay OR the 34% the US has to pay. Even the Chinese don't have to pay a tariff on an iPhone, since it's made in China! The only people who will have to pay more will be people in the US.

This is asymmetric "warfare" so to speak. It's the US Vs everyone else, not the US Vs one country. Everyone else can just get on with trading with each other and leave the US behind to an extent.
 
Apple could very well increase prices across the board to effectively subsidize imports to the US so that their US prices don't rise as much.
With consumers worldwide already starting to boycott American companies, and Tim Cook publicly aligning with Trump by donating to his inauguration, that's simply not going to work.

A better choice would be for Apple to do the same thing Americans do with sales taxes, advertise the 'rest of the world' price on their website and add the Trump Tariff Tax at checkout just for US citizens.
 
With consumers worldwide already starting to boycott American companies, and Tim Cook publicly aligning with Trump by donating to his inauguration, that's simply not going to work.

A better choice would be for Apple to do the same thing Americans do with sales taxes, advertise the 'rest of the world' price on their website and add the Trump Tariff Tax at checkout just for US citizens.
Apple already charges a premium in the EU to subsidise Americans. The market won't accept more.

I, for one, would move not buy any more Apple products if they try to absolutely gouge us in order to keep US prices down. I suspect there are a significant number of people like me.
 
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