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Fairness of the 5GB free iCloud allowance

  • The flat 5GB flat allowance is fairer for all users

    Votes: 99 76.7%
  • A higher allowance is fairer for capacity for larger models

    Votes: 29 22.5%

  • Total voters
    129
I do think that Apple should give 5GB PER Device instead of per ID though.

Well my argument is just an extension of that. The allowance doesn't take the device, number or devices or price paid into account. It's just a 5gb cap regardless. I'm pretty sure that wold be plenty for an iPod touch but not so plenty for a MacBook. It just seem illogical.
 
Do you think the free iCloud 5GB allowance is fair for all users?

Surely it would be fairer to offer increasing capacity per iPad model. Why should someone who buys a 64GB model get the same free 5GBs as someone who only bought a 16GB model?

Apple should have offered 5GB For the 16GB model, 10GB for the 32GB model and 20GB for the 64GB model.

Edit:
Look at is as a percentage rather than GB.

16GB owners get 31% extra free icloud space
32GB owners get 15% extra free iCloud space
64GB owners get 7.8% extra free iCloud space


That doesn't seem very fair to me :(
iCloud is a service that in no way is bound to the iPad. Everyone who has an Apple ID get 5 GB for free, and then you can opt to pay for more if you feel you need it. Granted, you need an iDevice to use it, but when Mountain Lion comes out, you'll be able to use it with the computer as well.

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There is no such thing as a free service

Then why don't you pay for the extra storage?
 
I back up 2 iPads, 2 iPhones and an iPod touch to one iCloud account.

I haven't upgraded, I use the free 5GB I was given and I still have 3.4GB free.

Works for me!
 
Also, I guess I'm missing something about iCloud...all it does for me is back up my settings. I don't need much space to back up my settings. If it were actual usable storage for me, maybe I'd have a more selfish response.

Purchased content (movies, music, apps, books) don't get counted against the free 5GB allowance. Neither does Photo Stream. So it's primarily for settings, app data, bookmarks, calendars, contacts and your camera roll (if you so choose).
 
You can but the point is that you pay a big premium for the higher capacity models and inherently those users need more space than someone who buys the barebones 16GB model. It's not if it would cost apple much to make the free allowance fairer.

When Mountain Lion is released, we will be able to use iCloud storage with our computers as well. Do you reckon someone who gets an Apple computer with a 512 GB HDD should get twice the amount of iCloud storage space as someone who gets an Apple computer with a 256 GB SSD? And would you say it's fair that the first guy gets eight times the iCloud storage as someone who owns a 64 GB iPad?

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I am dealing with it. Just because it's "free" doesn't mean it's fair for all users.

Besides if it's truly "free" why isn't it free for iPad 1 and 2 users too?

What isn't free for iPad 1 and 2 users, iCloud? I have no problems using iCloud on my iPad 2 and I've never paid for it... What are you talking about?
 
Better than sounding communist, as you do. I treat people better if they have more money. They have more to offer and could pay for my services. That said, I got the 16 Gb cuz I'm poor. Though poor, I don't give a crap about iCloud storage. I haven't used more than 4gb of my iPads storage anyways. Poor people can figure it out like I have.

If I spent more, I'd expect better perks. If I bought their top of the line iPad, id expect some extras. If I went to an expensive restaurant, I'd expect more than good food.

More money hardly makes someone better than a poor person, and let alone deserve more because they have money.
 
You should get an increasing, cumulative allowance for every device and every difference device.

Ok so say Apple sell three devices, an iPhone, an iPad a MacBook to three individuals, that's three apple ids so apple give away 15GB of "free" allowance.

Say one person buys the iPhone, iPad and MacBook with a single ID, apple give away just 5gb of "free" iCloud allowance.

So how is that fairer on the individual compared to the 3 separate users. Apple alone benefit by having to give away less "free" capacity for the same hardware?
 
Um, because you have to "pay" for an iPad 3 to get this " free" service?
No, you have to create a free Apple ID to get this service.

Simple, you should get an allowance based on the purchase price of the original device. As MBs cost more than the premium iPad, you should get proportionally more free allowance.
Just a minute ago you said the iCloud storage space should be based on the device's storage space, not the price.
 
Yes but that also means you have more data to back up into the cloud. I use iCloud to back up critical data not store more tunes. I can back up 7% of my device online, others can back up 31%, unless of course I pay extra. If I paid a premium for a premium capacity model surely we should get a premium free allowance. It should be a fixed percentage.

What is this critical data that you are backing up to iCloud from your iPad that has maxed out your five free GB's?
 
I back up 2 iPads, 2 iPhones and an iPod touch to one iCloud account.

I haven't upgraded, I use the free 5GB I was given and I still have 3.4GB free.

Works for me!

Purchased content (movies, music, apps, books) don't get counted against the free 5GB allowance. Neither does Photo Stream. So it's primarily for settings, app data, bookmarks, calendars, contacts and your camera roll (if you so choose).

Exactly. So why is this even a discussion? Might as well bitch about apple not giving us two more CPUs...if it isn't needed for flawless operation, apple is going to add it.
 
Just a minute ago you said the iCloud storage space should be based on the device's storage space, not the price.

its the same thing, the higher the capacity of the device the higher the price you pay.


For every hardware GB you buy in the device it should be reflected in the GB of iCloud allowance you get. The more devices and the higher the hardware capacities you "pay" for the more "free" cumulative allowance you should get.

Edit: Ok I can see the Apple Defence League are out in force so I'm running for cover!
 
You should get an increasing, cumulative allowance for every device and every difference device.

Ok so say Apple sell three devices, an iPhone, an iPad a MacBook to three individuals, that's three apple ids so apple give away 15GB of "free" allowance.

Say one person buys the iPhone, iPad and MacBook with a single ID, apple give away just 5gb of "free" iCloud allowance.

So how is that fairer on the individual compared to the 3 separate users. Apple alone benefit by having to give away less "free" capacity for the same hardware?

Because they're not giving away the free storage based on hardware purchases, but gives each and every one of their customers five free GB's, hoping that enough people will feel the need to purchase more storage space.

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its the same thing, the higher the capacity of the device the higher the price you pay.


For every hardware GB you buy in the device it should be reflected in the GB of iCloud allowance you get. The more devices and the higher the hardware capacities you "pay" for the more "free" cumulative allowance you should get.

Edit: Ok I can see the Apple Defence League are out in force so I'm running for cover!

The more GB you purchase from Apple, the less you pay per GB. For your fairness argument to be valid, wouldn't the unit price per GB have to match?
 
Because they're not giving away the free storage based on hardware purchases, but gives each and every one of their customers five free GB's, hoping that enough people will feel the need to purchase more storage space.

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The more GB you purchase from Apple, the less you pay per GB. For your fairness argument to be valid, wouldn't the unit price per GB have to match?

This is all bs. And it makes many assumptions about what apple intended iCloud to be used for. Again, apple didn't need to include ANY free cloud storage, yet they did for backing up and restoring purposes. If you found another use, you can pay for more.
 
its the same thing, the higher the capacity of the device the higher the price you pay.


For every hardware GB you buy in the device it should be reflected in the GB of iCloud allowance you get. The more devices and the higher the hardware capacities you "pay" for the more "free" cumulative allowance you should get.

Edit: Ok I can see the Apple Defence League are out in force so I'm running for cover!

I am a firm believer in common sense and logic, and you don't have either. People are not defending Apple, just saying your argument doesn't make sense.

You pay more for an iPad because it comes with more features (increased capacity, 3G/LTE). This doesn't also entitle you to more storage space on a completely different (but linked) service.
 
I agree with the earlier poster that who who bought the smaller capacity iPads should be the ones to get more iPad storage, as they are the ones who will need that extra space more.

What's next? I paid more tax, so the police should give me priority over my poorer neighbour?
 
I am a firm believer in common sense and logic, and you don't have either. People are not defending Apple, just saying your argument doesn't make sense.

You pay more for an iPad because it comes with more features (increased capacity, 3G/LTE). This doesn't also entitle you to more storage space on a completely different (but linked) service.

There is no room for logic on this site. Please refrain from using it.

Can I get a mod to filter all logic please? It would be much more practical. :p
 
I agree with the earlier poster that who who bought the smaller capacity iPads should be the ones to get more iPad storage, as they are the ones who will need that extra space more.

What's next? I paid more tax, so the police should give me priority over my poorer neighbour?

I would. Your tax pays their bills.

How is it fair that a poor person buys a 16gb iPad and has apple help them out more than a rich person buying a 64gb iPad? Doesn't seem fair to me. That's like helping out kids that are failing in class without helping out the kids that are passing. Stinks of socialism.

Reminds me of a picture I saw of a welfare mom toting a government paid cellphone around.

Edit: Obama, I've got an idea for you...
 
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I would. Your tax pays their bills.

How is it fair that a poor person buys a 16gb iPad and has apple help them out more than a rich person buying a 64gb iPad? Doesn't seem fair to me. That's like helping out kids that are failing in class without helping out the kids that are passing. Stinks of socialism.

Reminds me of a picture I saw of a welfare mom toting a government paid cellphone around.

Edit: Obama, I've got an idea for you...

Who says only "poor" people buy 16gb iPads? Think about that sentence in general.
 
I would. Your tax pays their bills.

How is it fair that a poor person buys a 16gb iPad and has apple help them out more than a rich person buying a 64gb iPad? Doesn't seem fair to me. That's like helping out kids that are failing in class without helping out the kids that are passing. Stinks of socialism.

Reminds me of a picture I saw of a welfare mom toting a government paid cellphone around.

Edit: Obama, I've got an idea for you...

Ever heard of equality? Its generally agreed that less fortunate people need help more than people with money because they don't have money.

Its a free service because every device has the same allowed storage space.
 
Ever heard of equality? Its generally agreed that less fortunate people need help more than people with money because they don't have money.

Its a free service because every device has the same allowed storage space.

So who foots the bill? Apple? Uncle Sam?
 
Exactly. The point is moo.

No, your point is lame. Asking, "How is it fair that a poor person buys a 16gb iPad ..." is just like saying that only poor people buy 16gb iPads. When I hear about someone buying an iPad of any capacity "poor" doesn't come to mind.
 
No, your point is lame. Asking, "How is it fair that a poor person buys a 16gb iPad ..." is just like saying that only poor people buy 16gb iPads. When I hear about someone buying an iPad of any capacity "poor" doesn't come to mind.

It flew right past you, Jessica.
 
I can tell we're just going to have scintillating threads from MacAttacka going forward.

5 GB is fair considering iTunes content isn't counted against that total so it doesn't matter how larger your iPad is it matters where you get your content from.
 
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