Is the IPhone 4S radioactive?

[onener]

true, but...

you're right to point out that the direct death toll after chernobyl was low... but that's not the only thing to worry about... there were thousands of babies born with the most various disabilities after the incident... this anomaly continues today in ukraine and will continue for the coming about 50-100 years... moreover various cancer rates in have surged in the region... related deaths cannot be directly attributed to chernobyl, but it is clear that there would have been a lot less cancer deaths without chernobyl, even in central europe...

my fear of this development is inversely proportional to the level of transparency and professionalism of the japanese authorities... the more they are hiding the worse it probably is... these days it became public that they wanted to evacuate tokyo but didn't in the end because there were too many people (20m?) and panic was feared...

fukushima may also be way worse than chernobyl as also plutonium has been released (half-life of 30'000 years vs. 30 years of ceasium and way more dangerous) and vast areas contaminated with the material.... while overall contamination in japan may be low, there are many local spikes (e.g. where it rained (fallout) or on hills)...

There are many examples in the past where authorities had to intervene to remove dangerous contamination...

e.g.
japanese cars in chile
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/05/04...und-in-japanese-cars-ready-to-unload-in-chile

or remember the story of the OTIS elevator buttons?
http://www.medindia.net/news/Twenty...tons-Components-Exported-by-India-43835-1.htm

Fukushima death toll so far, zero. Fukushima death toll in 100 years will be zero.

You're more likely to get more radiation from a coal power station than nuclear.

You should go and live 1km underground, those cosmic rays and all.

 

[tivoboy]

actually

Holy cow. Keep waiting. It's not like shipments are screened.

Start looking up radioactivity half life.

Maybe study this.
http://xkcd.com/radiation/

Or extract the science from sixteen pages of posts on this topic of concern on a camera forum.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/991531/

actually shipments to us ports are screened, but it isn't a 100% cargo screening. And, it would have to be much higher radiation levels than anything like this would represent probably to trigger an alert.

 

[Usual]

I am a purchasing supervisor in one of the biggest chewing gum producers.

After this disaster, we had got confirmation that non of the raw materials were produced after the earthquake, closer than 1.000 km to the place.

But this was "food". I do not think any problem should happen because of the radiation. The radiation, because of the usage of the phone would be much and much more..

 

[Iphone3gs]

It's not bad science.

It's the cut in funding and resources that don't enable scientist spend time or resources for their research.

Like cuts in education-educating people like you would come up with theory of bad science

 

[SimonTheSoundMa]

So basically no-one knows yet? That's bad science.

Just poor journalism.

They shouldn't be reporting on something that isn't finalised.

 

[macingman]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A334 Safari/7534.48.3)

PUT ON THE FOIL HATS!!

 

[Menel]

So basically no-one knows yet? That's bad science.

No, bad science would be publishing false information.

It's perfectly good good science to publish the fact that findings are inconclusive or as yet unknown.

 

[paulrbeers]

I guess we shouldn't purchase any new electronics in the foreseeable future. How many parts to our computers/cell phones/television/blu-ray players/etc. have parts sourced from Japan?

What I hate about the internet, is that it is forum posts like this that get all the crazies in a panic.... They read one thing about the possible radiation from their X caused by X by someone who has no real evidence or really any expertise and people go crazy. Do the world a favor and carry your cell phone in your under-roos.

 

[4:20]

I will wait to buy an IPhone 4S until I am completely ensured by Apple that any radioactive contamination after the Fukushima incident has actively been excluded or tested for (gamma, beta, alpha emitters).

Elements to worry:

1) Shipment and presentation of 4S are running so late because some components are made in the Fukushima disaster area and surrunding areas. As anybody knows massive contamination is spreading currently over huge areas (up to 200km). Even some quarters of Tokyo are now massively contaminted (annual limit dose reached within 20 hours, essentially ceasium but even elements such as plutonium of which 1mg is lethal). While it is true that assembly usually takes place within a protected and uncontaminated inside environment, raw input materials are often stored outside and may have been massively contaminated. Contamination of electronic parts is then inevitable. Moreover, international border checks are currently limited to very small samples given that the mass of exports just cannot be reasonably controlled.

2) Ipad 2 had formerly already been shown to be radioactively contaminated ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT6qHaKFgGY )


PS: As an example, other suppliers I know already started testing all japanese components for gamma, beta and alpha emitters already 2 days after the meltdown and ever after the incident .

PS2: This thread has been removed from the apple.com communities page. Apparently Apple does not want to transparently inform about these issues...

You can borrow my Geiger counter. No big deal.

 

[ErikSinanyan]

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[HKUSP.40]

Sweet, i got a new lock screen picture!

 

[DroidRules]

"95% below FCC limit" Per Pong's website

"....ALL cell phones must meet the FCC’s RF exposure standard, which is set at a level well below that at which laboratory testing indicates, and medical and biological experts generally agree, adverse health effects could occur....."

"....Recently, some health and safety interest groups have interpreted certain reports to suggest that wireless device use may be linked to cancer and other illnesses, posing potentially greater risks for children than adults. While these assertions have gained increased public attention, currently no scientific evidence establishes a causal link between wireless device use and cancer or other illnesses....."

"....Consumers should remember that all wireless devices are certified to meet the FCC maximum SAR standards, which incorporate a considerable safety margin. (Information about the maximum SAR value for each phone is publicly available on the FCC website.)...."

Nothing like making money off people's fear!

I would even suggest you get more radiation walking outside in the sun.

 

[ErikSinanyan]

k

 

[VulchR]

I seriously doubt that the iPhone4S has been contaminated, and for the record the only known biological effect of mobile phone use seems to be a detectable but biologically insignificant increase in the temperature of tissue near the phone.

 

[sulpfiction]

Sheww...I just downloaded the "iGeiger" app. So far, so good. Very little contamination.

 

[DroidRules]

Cell phone radiation and UV radiation are totally different. And yeah, keep following the safety limits of the FCC and FDA. Clearly you know nothing about health..

Yeah I don't know ****..... Me being nurse for 14 years, honorably discharged vet with 2 tours in Iraq doesn't qualify me to know ANYTHING about health

Radiation, causes cell mutation. Your cells don't care what kind of radiation it is. Cell mutation = possible cancer. Like I said, you probably get more radiation walking outside on a sunny day than you do from a cell phone. Concidering skin cancer is the most diagnosed form of cancer (in the US anyway), and Melanoma one of the most deadly (about 1 in 3.5 dx will die world wide), I would say the sun is WAY more dangerous than cell phones. Care to discuss this further?

Sheww...I just downloaded the "iGeiger" app. So far, so good. Very little contamination.

I LoL'd!

 

[RotaryP7]

He had an iPhone 4S..

 

[macingman]

Your iPhone isn't going to kill you or mutate your future children. Don't worry.

To do serious damage you need to be in high levels of radiation.

 

[Stealthipad]

Just do not put it in your front pocket and your future kids should be fine. All kidding aside if some people think that the RF is harmful, why would you keep your device in your front pocket

 

[DroidRules]

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He had an iPhone 4S..

Hey.... that was a good movie. Cher was a junkie and there were bikers... what more do you need?

Just do not put it in your front pocket and your future kids should be fine. All kidding aside if some people think that the RF is harmful, why would you keep your device in your front pocket

They say it only emits when it's "on" so unless your phone blows up all the time you should be fine.... but then again???

 

[daneoni]

Yes it blasts you with Gama radiation causing you to turn into a frog when you sneeze. Sadly that problem isn't covered by Applecare either.

 

[Sackvillenb]

Radiation from having A "mobile" device can be harmful simple google search will show you the effects it has on young children's brain as their skills are more thin radiation penetration is more easily entered to the brain.

http://m.guardian.co.uk/science/201...adiation-cancer-risk?cat=science&type=article

Radiation from mobile phones has been classified as a possible cancer risk by the World Health Organisation after a major review of the effects of electromagnetic waves on human health.
The declaration was based on evidence in published studies that intensive use of mobile phones might lead to an increased risk of glioma, a malignant form of brain cancer.

Hey, um, no offense, but you may want to learn some science... the radiation you are talking about is not the same type of radiation the OP was talking about. You are referencing electromagnetic radiation, while the poster was talking about ionizing radiation.

While electromagnetic radiation from phones and devices may have some effect on humans, Apple devices are not radioactive because of Fukushima. There are many reasons why, so I really wouldn't worry about it. Most people's diets will be far more harmful to them than radiation from Japan getting into products that are made in China...

 

[ErikSinanyan]

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[verwon]

Lol, the sun gives life to everything. It is the source of energy for everything on this planet.. it contains the most abundant form of Vitamin D. Just because you're a nurse doesn't mean you know about true health. You know disease management and how to make big bucks for doctors and pharmaceutical companies. Skin cancer is caused from all the toxic ingredients we're putting on our skin, NOT from the sun! Yes, obviously, too much sun is not healthful, just like too much of ANYTHING is not good for you. But THE SUN IS NOT TO BE FEARED. The sun is amazing and anyone who buys the ******** spewed by skincare companies about the sun being hazardous to our health is misinformed.

Ummm...yeah, that perfectly explains why my dad, who worked construction out in the sun for years, but never used skin care products had to have cancerous lesions removed a few months ago....NOT!

 

[lordofthereef]

How did I miss this thread? Amazing!!!! Who the hell is voting this down? It should be voted UP UP UP!!!!

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Lol, the sun gives life to everything. It is the source of energy for everything on this planet.. it contains the most abundant form of Vitamin D. Just because you're a nurse doesn't mean you know about true health. You know disease management and how to make big bucks for doctors and pharmaceutical companies. Skin cancer is caused from all the toxic ingredients we're putting on our skin, NOT from the sun! Yes, obviously, too much sun is not healthful, just like too much of ANYTHING is not good for you. But THE SUN IS NOT TO BE FEARED. The sun is amazing and anyone who buys the ******** spewed by skincare companies about the sun being hazardous to our health is misinformed.

Well, with the bolded statement your have proven to me that you know absolutely nothing too...