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You do realise that's basically just a skin for Safari, right? Apple don't allow full alternative browsers on iOS. Even Chrome is just a wrapper around the default webkit ui


So all WebKit browsers are just skins now? Jeez the amount of ill-informed posts in this thread keeps on increasing.
 
He's not ill informed look up how browsers function on ios before you start trash talking other people.


I know how WebKit functions. I also know how a skin functions. Are you suggestion as well that the only difference between all the WebKit browsers is just the skin they paint on it? As you are basically saying that when Chrome used it, it was basically the same as safari? Just a different skin.....

Hmmm, really?
 
I know how WebKit functions. I also know how a skin functions. Are you suggestion as well that the only difference between all the WebKit browsers is just the skin they paint on it? As you are basically saying that when Chrome used it, it was basically the same as safari? Just a different skin.....

Hmmm, really?

"Apple’s App Store policies state: “Apps that browse the web must use the iOS WebKit framework and WebKit Javascript.”

"This means that web browsers can’t implement their own rendering engines; they must embed a version of Safari’s rendering engine. They can’t offer a faster rendering engine or new web features. In effect, each third-party browser on iOS is a different interface around Safari."

http://www.howtogeek.com/184283/why...safari-on-iphone-and-ipad/?PageSpeed=noscript
 
I know how WebKit functions. I also know how a skin functions. Are you suggestion as well that the only difference between all the WebKit browsers is just the skin they paint on it? As you are basically saying that when Chrome used it, it was basically the same as safari? Just a different skin.....

Hmmm, really?

No. The fail is strong with that train of thought.
 
"Apple’s App Store policies state: “Apps that browse the web must use the iOS WebKit framework and WebKit Javascript.”



"This means that web browsers can’t implement their own rendering engines; they must embed a version of Safari’s rendering engine. They can’t offer a faster rendering engine or new web features. In effect, each third-party browser on iOS is a different interface around Safari."



http://www.howtogeek.com/184283/why...safari-on-iphone-and-ipad/?PageSpeed=noscript


Agreed and I never disputed that either. That is not what was being said nor discussed nor disputed.
 
I think part of the reason some people don't complain about it is because there's absolutely nothing we can do.

Apple will do what Apple does and we can't change it. We're just along for the ride, and both times I've looked over at the Android side I saw a less stable platform with MANY more issues than our scant few.

Do I wish the iPhone 6 series had more RAM? Yes. Can I do anything about it? No. Do I want to use Android, a less stable platform with four times as many bugs? No as well.

What makes you say that Android has "four times as many bugs"?
I use an Android tablet and despite 'only' having 1.5GB of RAM I see no webpage refreshes, and nor any other bugs to be brutally honest. Sure it may not always do things in a way that I would like, but KitKat is a smooth and bug-free experience for me....and I'm very critical of things which don't work as intended.
 
iphone with it ecosystem can handle it. unless its blackberry who needs more than 2 ram so they could run android apps.
 
Agreed and I never disputed that either. That is not what was being said nor discussed nor disputed.

"Are you suggestion as well that the only difference between all the WebKit browsers is just the skin they paint on it?"

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"browsers are not allowed to implement features that preserve tabs when reloading..."

I missed that part.

There are no fundamental differences. It can't page to flash storage for instance. It's the same browser technically with a different skin.

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Yes. That train of thought is full of fail. The alternative browsers on iOS kick Safari's behind all over the AppStore.

It's not fail it's objectively correct. Read the damn link.
 
Despite quick reloads, for people with limited data plans it can be a potential issue depending on how much of a page is cache-able. Unnecessary data utilization is among one of the problems that excess reloading can cause (and not limited to Safari, but any apps, especially ones that rely on data) - point being that data usage is only one of the components that is necessary/triggered when this behavior occurs.

And true, software optimization can help - but you are then simply shifting the onus of relieving the problem elsewhere, assuming that's where the fault lies.

I think the problem with the Air is largely the lack of RAM, I just don't think it's that big a problem. Granted, it could eat up your LTE data faster and I can understand why LTE Air owners would be troubled by this.
 
OP is correct.

But for most current 6/6 Plus owners, it will start to get annoying once Apple doubles RAM as early as next year or iPhone 7 in 2016. Neither models are future proofed once Apple starts utilizing that 64-bit architecture. The 6 is an overclocked bigger 5s and the 6 Plus is an overclocked / bigger 6. Apple loves keeps its loyalist waiting and waiting for better features while a $150 no contract Asus Zenfone 5 has 2GB already.
 
It's much worse on the iPad (Safari is basically unusable for more than a tab or two), but the lack of ram is still disappointing. iPhone 6S will almost be a mandatory upgrade

Saying that more RAM will fix a problem that most people don't think is a problem is akin to saying "my car sometimes stalls when it's running, why don't Ford put twice as much oil in!".

Poor analogy. A car stalling due to having too light of a flywheel is a better analogy, though still imperfect.
 
It's much worse on the iPad (Safari is basically unusable for more than a tab or two), but the lack of ram is still disappointing. iPhone 6S will almost be a mandatory upgrade

I can open three tabs in my iPad without reloading just fine. I find your comment mildly hyperbolic.
 
Ummmm, does it reload tabs like safari? Because Atomic Browser seems to have figured something out Apple hasn't...

I've actually tried atomic browser and it didn't have they reload issue. It's the only browser that doesn't have the issue and I tried all of them but the thing hasn't been updated in 2 years so I don't wanna use it.
 
I've actually tried atomic browser and it didn't have they reload issue. It's the only browser that doesn't have the issue and I tried all of them but the thing hasn't been updated in 2 years so I don't wanna use it.

But what this tells me RAM is not the issue. It can be fixed in software. This whole RAM whinestorn is pointless.
 
I've actually tried atomic browser and it didn't have they reload issue. It's the only browser that doesn't have the issue and I tried all of them but the thing hasn't been updated in 2 years so I don't wanna use it.
If I recall correctly, Atomic Browser utilizes offline caching (e.g. Safari's Reading List feature), which offloads resources to disk, which can alleviate memory issues. I don't know whether Safari does it or not, but I'd hypothesize the latter, given that Apple added the Reading List feature.

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But what this tells me RAM is not the issue. It can be fixed in software. This whole RAM whinestorn is pointless.

In a sense it is. Safari evicts tabs from memory when memory pressure is high (I do not have the details on specific numbers). Third party browsers however, can choose not to do this (at the risk of iOS taking the reigns and evicting it for them). As mentioned above, they can also choose to store assets on disk to alleviate memory constraints.
 
Hands down they got it wrong as far as more ram on the 6plus means more features on the 6plus
 
But what this tells me RAM is not the issue. It can be fixed in software. This whole RAM whinestorn is pointless.

Ohhh....look....isn't that cute. One of the guys that has been trolling this forum for a week talking about how his iPhone PLUS has 2 GB of RAM is now finding ways to back peddle so he can say 1 GB of RAM is now ok.

We all knew it was coming.
 
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