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Is the new MacBook Pro a dud?
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Windows 10 Pro is FREE until end of year, and after just $50, making this just like any other full blown windows laptop. RTFM.
UWP has to be a disappointment with MS, it hasn't lived up to their expectations.
Yea the battery life is something I am really looking at when I pickup my next laptop either later 2017 or early 2018. My Retina 13inch late 2013 model which I bought new on closeout in late 2014 has 400+ charges on it and at about 80% capacity. I get about 5 hours on battery with high brightness and using chrome (I really don't like Safari) and Microsoft Word. It was around 7 hours when I first had it. If I can get 7-8 hours on the non-touchbar 2016 MBP that would be great! Like I said earlier, if the Surface NoteBook gets anywhere over 10 hours of standard use on Windows 10 Pro, that will be a game-changer.
Trivial? Small inconvenience?
Why are we adding inconveniences to a $2200 machine?
The entire point of these devices is ease of use and increased productivity.
Why take that away? What did we "gain" in exchange for losing the sdcard slot?
Why would anyone defend this?
Ditching the optical drive and ethernet meant thinner machines. Same cannot be said of sdcard.
Feel free... hire a lawyer... however, in my experience, Apple's estimates on battery life are among the best (read: most accurate) in the electronic device industry... but, YMMV, so sue away...
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It's not a dud IMO. But I wish it had ports.
I don't care for touch bar. The base 13 is fine for me.
I'm sorry, but where did I defend it? I complained about it many times. But the REALITY is that it's not making a whoop of difference and I probably own more camera gear than any 3 people here combined.
I really miss it mainly to be an extra storage solution on the go, but it has zero effect on workflow.
So it's a "minor" issue. What did I gain in exchange? Much nicer screen, trackpad that I can finally use properly in photoshop, better speakers, better keyboard, touchbar, super fast SSD, much more versatile port options with 4 USB-C, less weight and size. In short, a awesome upgrade from my 2015 15" rMBP.
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Yeah, I easily get more battery life than with my 2015 15" rMBP and more than they claimed on the Apple site. How dare they! I'm at 74% right now with 9:42 remaining. I'll get them for this!
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That's been my contention, I'm paying a premium price, and for that price, I actually get less connectivity for my needs out of the box. Sure I can buy more stuff to bring it back up to where it will be useful but I'm not sure what advantages we received in dropping the HDMI and SD card slot.
People can make the argument about the USB-A vs. USB-C ports, but HDMI and SD card slots are not being replaced by anything. They're not legacy in that sense of the word.
Very much agree, of the group of engineering consultants I work and collaborate with not one has migrated to the 2016 MBP. They have either remained on the older Mac iterations or switched to Windows...
I pay premium as my expectation is the hardware & software will accelerate and complement my workflow, not the inverse. Apple has simply solidified it's position as a provider of "consumer" electronics IMHO. If Apple chooses to "get back in the ring" so be it. Until then not caring or interested as these systems need to generate revenue not, just look good...
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LOL!
Since when has Apple not been in the mainstream consumer electronics arena? They build machines for the masses.
My tMBP machines work perfectly on pro photo jobs and handle everything I throw at them. That includes an array of connectivity where the USB-C ports also work perfect.
Legacy ports are just not needed anymore. They add weight and complexity while actually limiting options. There's nothing I can't do with 4 USB-C ports and these are so much more refined than my previous machines. This false narrative that a USB or HDMI port, which does one thing, vs. USB-C ports that can do EVERYTHING is somehow a contest is really ignoring the facts.
If you owned one or more, you'd know that.
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I mostly agree on the SD card because it added a storage option that could be part of the machine. But an HDMI port is a waste of space.
This realization and implementation by Apple is forward and proper thinking. Why wast space with a HDMI port when you can have a port that does EVERYTHING?
For a few bucks you can have every legacy port you want on these new machines. And when you don't want them you have the best and most portable MBP ever. The old USB port doesn't even fit the case and I'm not sure a HDMI would either.
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Based on previous models, the new laptops are price well. I got my 15" touch bar for 1K off from a friend, but it's still the nicest machine around for about 2250.00.
The 13" touchbar, which I also own, is only a bit more expensive than a maxed-out Air and far nicer.
And yes, the non-touch bar is also a great choice and priced well.
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except that I nuked and paved it. Only had the Sierra installed, nothing else. Same kernel panic before I installed the first piece of software.
Ditching the SD card meant a happy Johny. A happy Johny is very important to Apple. Result = removal of SD just because he could and desired to.
Do you think that with usb 4 that TB4 will step in?Along Pci4 ,the 3/4 all in one?☺️
You're quoting someone who hasn't logged in for over a year so I wouldn't expect a reply from them
From what I understand, USB 4 will supersede both USB 3 and TB3, so maybe it will finally become as universal/ ubiquitous as the USB A type 2/3 is/was.
Ok i see,thanks,its only i’m curious to see if thunderbolt 4 is coming or not,maybe 2020?You're quoting someone who hasn't logged in for over a year so I wouldn't expect a reply from them
*which MBP are you talking about?? lol... I have a 2019 1.4 the thing is amazing! couldn't even imagine getting a 2013 computer! lol.... moreover, everyone else I know with a 2019 LOVES their MBPs... so would love to hear why you think they are so ******... lol
and the thread is entitled "
Is the new MacBook Pro a dud?
emphasis, NEW not a 2017!! LOL
Note that the thread was started in 2017... so at the time, the 2017 MBP WAS the new one!! LOL.
Removal of the SD card slot still makes no sense to me. The SD port is thinner than the frame, so it's not an issue of being too thick. For photographers, this takes them back to the old days of having to plug in with a cable, and eating the batteries on their camera. Sadly they will never reconsider USB C being the only port, so it's a moot point now.
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So you're trying to argue that the OP wanted to argue that the 2019 MBP was a dud in 2017
Just admit it, you totally missed the date stamp of the thread and my post.
I get it, you want to say the 2019 MBP is not a dud, and I'll not argue that, but you cannot use 2019 as a means to justify 2 year old posts are wrong.
You asked what model, I was talking about, well, I was referencing the 2017 model year. I didn't think I had to spell that out to you when I pasted the datestamp of my post in my reply - but there you go I guess I did ¯\_(ツ)_/¯