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Is the Solid State Drive worth it?
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No no no no no, that's completely different.
I understand you saying that, if somebody asks if it's beneficial, we should tell them, but in THIS CASE, one in which you obviously, again, don't know what you are talking about, he will not benefit if he doesn't need the darn thing.
Your examples (and by the way, analogies aren't logical arguments; just for future reference
are based on things that are somewhat necessary in today's life for convenience. It isn't so much a washer and dryer so you don't have to drive 10 minutes wasting gas, having a SSD opposed to a HD is more like a sports car instead of an economy.If you're going to use analogies, at least pick correct ones. Sports car gets you there faster, but if you're staying in the city, you won't be speeding much.
On the other hand, if you're going on the highway a lot (analogous to large files in case you're lost), the sports car would get you faster if you drove recklessly.
My point being that you don't need the SSD at all, if you aren't loading a lot of files constantly, the benefits won't be noticeable and you'll have effectively wasted money. Yes you get the security from drops and the sound is quiet, but simply relying on speed in this sense as a premise isn't very smart.
And I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying that you're basing your argument around something that, with the price and size constraints looming high over head, will be washed out if the user isn't doing something that requires it. It's basic knowledge.
Do you put a turbo in your car? No, why would you do that?
Do you put racing tires? What about lowering the suspension?
Weight reduction? NO. Why? Because you don't need it. The benefits (better performance) would be outweighed by the cost and the fact that you "wouldn't have a real reason to use it."
I'm just advocating rational spending here. Yea if you want to, hypothetically, throw money away, sure, go ahead and get the SSD if you don't need it. You could then argue the fact that the user must then do things that take advantage of that extra couple hundreds of seconds faster.
Do you use keyboard commands? What about better touch tool? I could argue I get a lot more done on my machine with the stock HD than you do with the SSD. You also have to think about HIM and how he uses the computer. If he just clicks on icons, the time it took to click rather than to type would offset the benefits of the SSD.
There are so many variables to think about; don't just suggest what you like and bash others who offer an opposing argument.
You are free to say whatever you want as you've done and I am free to say I disagree. You are saying this person will see no benefit and you are just absolutely wrong!
I have not bashed you, you are the one that accused me of not knowing what I am talking about. Yet I have an SSD drive in all of my computers and absolutely can confirm there is a benefit. You on the other hand seem to just be talking without benefit of experience.
Once again this person is looking to get one, he likely doesn't care if you think he doesn't need it at all. There are a lot of things we don't need, but that doesn't stop us from getting them. Your point is so moot it isn't even worth arguing. So, if the person is going to get one, then he/she should know if others have benefited from it. I think this thread has made that very clear - absolutely even though it maybe some more than others. There will still be some benefit.
For everyone of you guys that say OH NO YOU DON'T NEED THAT there are 3 others that give example of why a person with no need for one would most certainly benefit.
You can ramble on all you want, but you can't change my experience which absolutely clearly has shown benefit. So, I suggest the person get one and try it out and let them decide for themselves.
Ahh, I hope shaking your head makes you feel better! LOL
Some of you guys take this stuff way to seriously! You'd think you were buying the SSD for them. Give the info and let people decide for themselves, wouldn't that be refreshing. This person may come to the same conclusion you have, but I highly doubt it.
That's exactly how I feel. Yes I'm opinionated also, but I also know that the purchase isn't for me. I also realize that I use the computer differently than other people here.
All you can do is suggest the most rational, logical reason for something and go from there. Sadly, people don't think like that and just suggest what they like; sometimes that thing isn't even right for them.
However, what seems most rational and logical to you, may not to someone else. Certainly you and I don't agree on this. I think my approach is just as rational and logical as yours. Who's to say what is or isn't right for someone else.
So, what are the disadvantages to having an SSD drive that would make the investment not worth it to someone? Just price alone isn't going to do it, because clearly if a person has a couple of hundred bucks burning a hole in there pocket they are likely going to spend it.
Like I've said I've seen post after post after post of folks laying out there benefits. On the flip side I've only seen you don't need that, that is overkill, but no real straight up legit reasons why not to get one. The reason in my opinion because there really is a benefit, but for some the cost out weighs the benefit and I totally get that. So, each person has to decide what is best for them. Buy one at a dealer that has a return policy, try it out and if you don't feel the cost vs benefit is worth it then bring it back.
And that's where I see a problem that many people don't. The need to buy "just because you have the money."
That's why this country is where it is now. People bought (in this case, houses) when they didn't need it.
You can simply argue "yea, just buy it, I have the money, why not?" but, to be blunt, that's just an ignorant way to live your life.
Americans love materialistic things. Love buying, spending, just to have when they don't really need. Don't get me wrong, technically I don't (and I could argue 80 percent of the people here don't) need Apple computers but we get them because the benefits they give outweigh the cost. HOwever, as I'm sure everybody here knows, there is that assumption that the typical Apple user is ignorant, has money, and just gets it because it's nice.
I'm obviously not one of those people. I'm not saying anybody else here is, but you can obviously see the correlation with that and "just buying an SSD because you can" when the thing will not give you more than a couple of milliseconds of an increase in speed.
But I mean, we can argue here all day and the OP could just get the thing and be done with it, or could not and spend the money for something else. It's up to him/her.
My point is that it's just stupid to "get because I can" when there isn't a noticeable reason to. And again, if that person isn't a power user (custom gestures/keyboard commands), I'd bet my MBP I'd work around my computer faster than he with a SSD. But that wouldn't make for a strong argument.
You getting way out there now DAWG! Seriously that is a personal decision. While I agree that folks often buy stuff they don't need, if they feel they have the money, aren't charging it on credit cards and have the funds, then I see nothing wrong with it.
This still doesn't change the question of the original poster, nor does it change the answer to those of us that have and use SSD drives every single day.
Why are you so invested in this. Please just let it go. Some of us think an SSD is a nice upgrade and you don't... we get it.
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This thread has gone off the deep end. The advantages and disadvantages of owning a SSD over a HDD are well known. In the most basic sense, a SSD is better than a HDD in every category besides $/GB. All this stuff about "need" versus "want" is ridicules. We're on a forum dedicated to luxury tech products. Obviously, very few people need these items.
My personal feeling is that those individuals who claim SSDs are "unnecessary" and should be reserved for "professionals" who actually need them are simply annoyed because they can't justify the cost of a SSD or are trying to keep SSDs elite in some way by dissuading others from buying them.
My personal feeling is that those individuals who claim SSDs are "unnecessary" and should be reserved for "professionals" who actually need them are simply annoyed because they can't justify the cost of a SSD or are trying to keep SSDs elite in some way by dissuading others from buying them.
Yeah, and when people start making statements like what's in your second paragraph there, they are helping to send it off the deep end.
Your "personal feeling" for why some people don't want to buy a SSD has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not any particular user should buy a SSD.
You do know that, by this logic, nothing anybody has said here means anything right?
The only reason for posting anywhere in this forum is to share one's beliefs, ideas, and opinions.
Through your own argument, YOUR personal feelings carry no weight either. See a problem here?
Worth it. The ssd boots in 12 seconds. Opens any app in two. Does not have moving parts to fail. Keeps temps way down. (extending life of all components) Pops 500x15Mb files into view with preview in less than twenty seconds. Moves GB of data fast.
Don't expect an significant upgrade like that to be cheap.
Comparing 1TB drive prices is ridiculous anyways.
Don't expect an significant upgrade like that to be cheap.
Comparing 1TB drive prices is ridiculous anyways.
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Enough said. Right now, it simply costs too much for the SSD. I would rather have the space and take an extra few seconds that to limit my space with lightning speed.
Although, the one upgrade I always recommend is the RAM. It doesn't hurt to add an "intake" here and there to get more airflow in that engine of yours.
There you go, you looked at it reasoned it out and came the the conclusion that cost vs benefit isn't worth it at this point. Yet there are others that view cost worth the benefit.
There is no wrong or right answer here. Just information so that a person can make an informed decision for themselves. All this personal stuff and then really taking it down the deep end with buying what some else perceive isn't needed is what's wrong with America. Really? We are going to solve what is wrong with America in this thread too?
I think you made the right decision for yourself just as the original poster must do.
No, its not that "personal feeling" are the problem. The problem is that you're making judgements on the motivation of other posters.
I was only putting "personal feeling" in quotes to ridicule you for your hypocrisy.
Sorry you're not keeping up.
Exactly man. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have an SSD. It is simply not worth it as of right now. I'm sure, in 3-5 years, it'll be very affordable and I'll bite the bullet. But if they come out with a 2TB+ regular HD, I might just do that instead.. hehehe
As for solving America's problems, we simply spend money on things we don't really need. But hey, that's what America is all about. From the head of the government, down to the average citizen like you and I. We are drenched in so much consumerism (ever since we were born) that all we want to do is buy, buy, buy. Often times, impulsively.
I do have hope though, the only good thing I see about having an economic recession/depression is people start having the idea of prioritizing what is important to spend money on.
Sometimes I feel like I should just not post, but I have to ask:
If somebody can offer a more educated opinion on something, why not take the time to listen?
I mean, that's why we are all here right? To give and receive opinions/ideas?
The thing is that not everyone buys the fact that your opinion is of the more educated variety. It just seems you are thinking about it from an economical stand point and there is nothing wrong with that. But again the original poster isn't asking for financial advice.
Perhaps sometimes you shouldn't post!
The thing is that not everyone buys the fact that your opinion is of the more educated variety. It just seems you are thinking about it from an economical stand point and there is nothing wrong with that. But again the original poster isn't asking for financial advice.
Perhaps sometimes you shouldn't post!
And here we go again, people taking what I said out of context.
1) I did not state my opinion was more educated. Read before assumption.
2) yes I do think about it from an economical standpoint: it's a very strong standpoint to think about when you're talking about "buying" something. Don't you think?
Cause... you know, that's what people are talking about: buying. The pros and cons come with the argument but the conclusion is whether or not to buy. Price kind of plays an important part, no?
3) But yea, there is nothing wrong with that. Aside from the cost and benefits, what else is there to share? Experiences are subjective and it's going to vary from person to person. I try and talk about the more concrete, discernable or beneficial things that people can relate to.
Really? This thread isn't about you? We've seen your post and thanks for the economical advice, but other than that you've not given one single solitary reason why someone shouldn't get an SSD drive. Sure experiences are subjective, but I'll take those over someone who doesn't have an SSD any day. Especially in regards to the related benefits of buying and operating an SSD.