Actually there will be features on the 4th gen iPhone the 3GS users won't get, yet technically the 3GS could support. Just wait, it happened with every update of the hardware and the specific software for that hardware.
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Is there a physical reason that the original iPhone and iPod touch can't run 4.0?
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Actually there will be features on the 4th gen iPhone the 3GS users won't get, yet technically the 3GS could support. Just wait, it happened with every update of the hardware and the specific software for that hardware.
General breakdown of what is going on.
iPhone and iPhone 3G share the same amount of RAM and both have the same processor speed and clock speed. They also both have the same camera and they both have EDGE capabilities.
To the person who said it was a 3G/GPS thing: The original iPhone is location-aware via cell tower triangulation. Apple will still let iPhone 3G users install 4.0 even if the user doesn't have a 3G connection where they live.
However, Apple was somehow able to get the iPhone 3G to run OS 4.0 but, they couldn't make the original iPhone run it. I don't think it's a matter of that they *couldn't* do it (being the same specs and all)... I think it's more like they just didn't want to support it anymore.
They couldn't give it away as a free update for the original iPhone (even if they did want to support it), which adds another level of crap they'd have to deal with.
I know what's going on. I was just pointing out that he said you were both a little wrong. I see where he was wrong, but you were never wrong, as you never said the 1st gen could not run it as he said you did.
Very good point. I didn't think about that aspect. That makes more sense.
Ah, I see. Sorry.
I'm surprised that people are surprised by this 
Whatever some of the people here believe Apple is not all cuddly and caring. The sell computers at a fixed price for months on end (sometimes over a year, remember the fiasco with the mini?) without updates, did you really expect them to support a phone which is not only out of date, but now out of contract too?
I get that the OP wants it for testing, but other people jealous of the extra functionality should just jailbreak and be happy with that compromise. I am.
Whatever some of the people here believe Apple is not all cuddly and caring. The sell computers at a fixed price for months on end (sometimes over a year, remember the fiasco with the mini?) without updates, did you really expect them to support a phone which is not only out of date, but now out of contract too?I get that the OP wants it for testing, but other people jealous of the extra functionality should just jailbreak and be happy with that compromise. I am.
i'm sorry, but i rather apple create new features rather than hold off on certain things due to limits by the older phones.
the original iPhone came out in 2007, it's 2010...
the original iPhone came out in 2007, it's 2010...
Right - because it would be unfair to stick the millions of $100-$300 iPhone owners with the bill for what amounts to one week of good coding for one guy. Why take into consideration the early adopters who paid anywhere from $400-$600 for their iPhones and still had to sign a two year contract?
Many people on this forum are saying "it's 2010 - time for new hardware!". Does that mean that 2010 is the year that it is responsible to throw perfectly good hardware in the landfill?
Up next: "Dear Apple,"
You did not have to sign a two year contract, you choose to. Phones are on a two year cycle. Been that way for awhile. I have a 3g and have every intention to upgrade as soon as possible if new hardware is released. I would imagine next year the 3G will be left in the dust.
You don't have to throw your perfectly working phone into a landfill, recycle, but the bottom line is no new upgrades on first gen. You got your use out of it, upgrade or be left behind.
That would not happen. There are things called software limitations.
For the record, I do have an iPhone 2G, which I bought with my hard earned money. Will I be upgrading this year? The former two years didn't provide me with enough to part with more money and/or get stuck in another 18-month contract.
Dear Apple,
After a 22 year relationship I'm packing my bags.
Do you remember when we started it all? It was so long ago that color was the hot new thing, and there was still "intosh" after the "Mac". Those were magical times, back before the Web.
Unfortunately there were hard years in between, and they seem to have changed you. You are now bitter and dark, and you take it out on those that love and support you.
A few years ago things seemed to be getting better. You had something new, something nobody else had - a "smart" phone that didn't need a phone book sized instruction manual! People emptied their wallets in droves to buy them! Now you dismiss those same people as if they were peasants. It seems that you don't want my iPhone around anymore. I don't know if you have noticed this, but while you have been flourishing many of us have been running on empty. Do you feel it's right to try and kick us while we are down?
I can't speak for "the rest of us", but I've taken all I can. Thanks to this experience I've lost the taste for "smart" phones. I'm going back to a simple phone. I'd have allready left to a different OS for my desktop if it wasn't for the fact that OPENSTEP and I were such good friends. That connection is starting to loose a lot of strength, so don't expect it to hold me forever.
I will miss you, but I've got to leave this unhealthy relationship. Besides, if I get lonely there is this new girl in town. She is a little crazy though - she thinks she is a robot!
After a 22 year relationship I'm packing my bags.
Do you remember when we started it all? It was so long ago that color was the hot new thing, and there was still "intosh" after the "Mac". Those were magical times, back before the Web.
Unfortunately there were hard years in between, and they seem to have changed you. You are now bitter and dark, and you take it out on those that love and support you.
A few years ago things seemed to be getting better. You had something new, something nobody else had - a "smart" phone that didn't need a phone book sized instruction manual! People emptied their wallets in droves to buy them! Now you dismiss those same people as if they were peasants. It seems that you don't want my iPhone around anymore. I don't know if you have noticed this, but while you have been flourishing many of us have been running on empty. Do you feel it's right to try and kick us while we are down?
I can't speak for "the rest of us", but I've taken all I can. Thanks to this experience I've lost the taste for "smart" phones. I'm going back to a simple phone. I'd have allready left to a different OS for my desktop if it wasn't for the fact that OPENSTEP and I were such good friends. That connection is starting to loose a lot of strength, so don't expect it to hold me forever.
I will miss you, but I've got to leave this unhealthy relationship. Besides, if I get lonely there is this new girl in town. She is a little crazy though - she thinks she is a robot!
Do remember that you probably get better service over there than we do over here in the UK.
I will never forget my time with the iPhone, in which I had paid over $4.5k
(not including iPhone price itself)The problem is that my phone has plenty of life left in it. Call me crazy but I like to use things I buy until they are worn out.
It's really not a huge deal to me. I'm going back to a "dumb" phone, and I'm no longer going to buy a pair of 3G iPads. I'm also considering a new desktop OS, and I'm 100% done buying Apple hardware. Except for having more money in my pocket my life is going to be pretty much the same.
If you're in the US, have you actually taken the time to run the numbers?
US "Early adopters" paid more for the hardware, but paid SIGNIFICANTLY less per month for data/SMS. End result? At the end of a 24-month contract, US "Early adopters" paid *less* for their iPhone and service than current 3G/3GS owners do.
As an early US adopter, there was absolutely no "extra" financial cross for you to bear.
The only thing that needs to be thrown in the landfill is your unreasonable expectation that your 3-year old smartphone be able to run the latest operating system.
If your iPhone is fine, continue to use it. Use it understanding that Apple gave it TWO major OS updates, something no Windows Mobile or BlackBerry smartphone has ever seen.
That you can say that simply because there isn't a third major OS upgrade for your smartphone shows your general ignorance of how the smartphone market worked before Apple entered it. Apple, far from perfect, has made quite a few positive changes in the smartphone market, ... changes that other companies like Microsoft, Palm and Android are just now starting to adopt, after almost a decade of 'crap business as usual'.
Dear Apple,
I have an Apple IIci in perfect working order. Why can't I run Snow Leopard on it?
Hold it there a bit.
In the UK, the iPhone 8GB was £269 + £35 (x 18) = £899
iPhone 3G 8GB: £100 + £30 (x 18) = £640
iPhone 3GS 8GB: £180 + £30 (x 18) = £720
Plans:
iPhone 8GB, for £45 per month:
200 minutes
200 texts
iPhone 3G, for £30 per month:
75 minutes,
100 texts,
+3G
iPhone 3GS, £30 per month,
100 minutes,
unlimited texts
+3G
All include unlimited internet, subject to fair terms policy.
As it stands right now, iPhone 3GS has the best then the original iPhone - however - if you went over the 200 minutes, you'd be paying VERY hefty rates, not nearly as bad as the 3G or 3GS.
Not the case in the US. I updated my post to reflect the country I was talking about. Sorry for the confusion.
Unless the far faster processor and twice as much usable RAM on the iPhone 3GS and iPt 3rd gen don't count as reasons, then yes, I guess he is.