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Is there a way to attach two documents in one email? It's been over 7 years.
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Until iCloud drive goes live I'm going to stand behind my statement. If iCloud drive is going to behave like Dropbox where you can attach files from it that's still not the same as having a file manager on the phone itself.
I'm going to hold off on iPhone 6 until these things happen. I'll just keep my 5 and 5s, as I have come up with sufficient workarounds to get everything done that I need done, but as soon as someone like Sony makes their Xperia X1 compact high quality and universal LTE, or whoever can pull that off I guess I'll jump back over the fence. Right now there still isn't a good Android phone with high quality mic, high quality camera, high quality build, and universal LTE - and SD card or at least 128Gb storage.
I guess what I really want is iPhone 6 hardware running Android.
If Apple gives us all the Android features, I'll stick with iPhone, but otherwise I just have no compelling reason to stick with iOS as soon as there exists a top notch hardware Android phone.
If you want features, then you have no reason to stick with iOS in the first place. iOS is all about convenience, security and peace of mind.
I see that word, "convenience" but I just don't quite get how you mean that?
It just feels like I have to go through so many more steps to get anything done in iOS as compared to Android. Maybe it's just because I used Android for 3 years and iOS for only 8 months - or maybe because Android just seems so much like any other OS I've ever used with its regular file structure.
But still, even though I know more about iOS now that anyone else in real life I know, it seems totally *inconvenient* for so many things.
I have to give props to Apple for a beautiful design that feels great in the hand, and very good camera, and very good microphone, and very good screen and buttons and fit and finish and beautiful symmetric easy to use lightning connector...
But the software, and especially the restrictions... can you give me a few examples of how it's more convenient?
I don't know what the other poster meant by convenience, but for me, one great convenience with Apple products is their great customer service. If something goes wrong with my iPhone or iPad, I just walk into an Apple store, and they'll fix or replace it. Every time I think of trying an Android phone or tablet, I wonder, "But who do I call if something goes wrong?" I'm sure most Android hardware makers have solid customer service, but it's not as simple as walking to the nearest Apple store.
Sure. First example: There's not much to configure. Less features = convenience. You got an iPhone? All you need to do is a few simple steps, then you use it. You don't have to think about it. Did I open too many apps? Will it affect my battery? Do I need to turn off Wi-Fi now? No. You just use it.
You don't have to think about it. That's convenience.
Better than example, I can give you a living proof: My wife. She hates computer. The iPhone is her first computer that she loves and be comfortable with. She like it so much she recommended it, and even demonstrated it, to all her friends. You should have seen it. The computer illiterate person fluently demonstrated how to use an iPhone to someone else. It's like a miracle.
You should tell her the phone she's using daily is not convenient. That Android, whom every apps you installed you need to read all the fine details what it can do to your phone, is easier to use. I'd like to see her face.
(Oh yes, she has tried her friends' Android phone from time to time.)
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Then going only by the WWDC Keynote you should be more than happy.
Single point of access and security what's not to like. Can't see why you wouldn't be able to multi-select files in the new system they demo'ed.
That is all true. But what makes Apple products easy and convenient for the novice users can seem limited and inconvenient for advanced users. For example, Apple's Airport routers are so easy to setup and use, I recommended them to my Mom, who set it up for herself, then later ended up getting them for my Aunt as well. But when I first tried setting up an Airport router for myself, I first tried to configure it the way I did with my previous routers, where I had to go in and manually tweak all the settings. Needless to say, I couldn't find a way to change any of the settings I thought I had to tweak, so I ended up banging my head in frustration. I finally gave in and accepted the default settings Apple provided, and my wifi network is running smoothly since then. Is Apple way always better? I can't say. In the majority of cases, I think they are, but there are always cases where the Apple way won't quite fit. And if you happen to have some requirements that Apple doesn't fill, then you would be wondering why everyone is saying Apple is easy and convenient, and think that those people must be brainwashed or something.
Sure. First example: There's not much to configure. Less features = convenience. You got an iPhone? All you need to do is a few simple steps, then you use it. You don't have to think about it. Did I open too many apps? Will it affect my battery? Do I need to turn off Wi-Fi now? No. You just use it.
You don't have to think about it. That's convenience.
Better than example, I can give you a living proof: My wife. She hates computer. The iPhone is her first computer that she loves and be comfortable with. She like it so much she recommended it, and even demonstrated it, to all her friends. You should have seen it. The computer illiterate person fluently demonstrated how to use an iPhone to someone else. It's like a miracle.
You should tell her the phone she's using daily is not convenient. That Android, whom every apps you installed you need to read all the fine details what it can do to your phone, is easier to use. I'd like to see her face.
OK I get that.
My definition was different. When I get an android device, I spend two days setting it up... well more like three to four, but then after it's all completely exactly the way I want it, for the remainder of the time I have it, it's like magic because anything I want to do is just a single icon tap away.
If I want to turn tethering on, I tap an icon and it's on. Turn off? Tap the icon.
If I want to have a specific sound EQ setting for the car I'm in or the room I'm in, I tap the icon. Done.
If I want to reply to an email at 60WPM, swype. I'm only 25WPM on iOS keyboard, which I find less convenient.
I want to always have a certain app open certain links - tap and it's done. I don't like it I chang it.
I have a zip file and need to unzip it? I search for and install an app that can do it and it's unzipped and using the contents in under a minute. That's convenient.
I need the display on a bigger screen? I plug in an HDMI cable. Convenient.
I need to know if someone sent me a message? My phone is over on the counter charging 20 feet away. I glance at it and no blinky light so I don't have to go over and check it. I find that convenient.
I want to play some old MP3s I ripped 10 years ago and they're in a folder in my computer? I dump them in my phone and play them in the same order I ordered them in 10 years ago with no fuss, no iTunes struggle. How convenient!
I need some extra storage? I order it up on Amazon and plug it into my phone and suddenly I have 64 extra gigs for $40. How convenient and economical!
I want to send a friend of mine a project I've been working on in several files? I zip it up and email it, how convenient.
I drop the phone in the potty and it still works because lots of android phones have been water resistant for many years? So convenient!
I could go on forever.
In my mind, convenient means something very different from "easy for people who are not computer savvy to use"
Anyway, I don't think Android is harder to understand than iOS any more because I see dumb as rocks folks using both nowadays. Probably more on Android lately.
Once again, I love the overall hardware package Apple put together is excellent. Not perfect by any means, but the best overall balance of hardware I've found.
The restrictions suck and I still don't understand why they are there.
There was a keyboard restriction and now there will not be? Why? Why was keyboard choice bad before but good now.
It just seems completely random which things are good and which are bad.
Just stop with the restrictive BS and let us make our own choices.
Like I said, if you need features, you come to the wrong place. If I have to spend more than 15 minutes to setup the phone, that phone will go back to the shop immediately.
What make you think Apple will give you MORE features than Android in the first place? Apple will give you some BETTER features, like Touch ID, but never *more*.
What you listed is not a make or break features. I got headache just to read them.
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When I bought Time Capsule, it almost set itself up. I thanks Apple for that. The easiest network setup I have in my life.
I understand your frustration. I heard the old AirPort Utility was not that bad. Maybe in this Craig Fed's era they might bring back some advance features you missed.
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This can be done on iOS with GoodReader. The function has been there at least since right after the release of the first iPad.
I think you answered your own question, but you don't know it. You said you are impressed by the overall balance of Apple hardware. Well, they try to achieve a similar balance with their software too. If they feel that a software feature hasn't achieved that balance, they won't add that feature, which results in the seemingly random restrictions you are complaining about. For instance, you said it takes you two to three days to set up your phone to do the things you want it to do. Apple won't add all those functions to the iphone until they figure out how to make it so people can set all that up in, oh, I don't know, thirty minutes?
Yes, iOS devices lag behind Android in terms of features, but when Apple finally does add features, they tend to work more fluidly than Android. For example, I sometimes have to setup the email on my boss' Galaxy phone, and entering the account info takes twice as many screens as it does on iOS. It's very annoying and I'd love it of my boss would switch to IPhone. Oh, and one time he lost his phone a week after I set up the email, and I spent an afternoon redoing the email on his new phone. If he had an iPhone, I could have restored everything from iCloud backup with one push of a button.
Sure. First example: There's not much to configure. Less features = convenience. You got an iPhone? All you need to do is a few simple steps, then you use it. You don't have to think about it. Did I open too many apps? Will it affect my battery? Do I need to turn off Wi-Fi now? No. You just use it.
You don't have to think about it. That's convenience.
Better than example, I can give you a living proof: My wife. She hates computer. The iPhone is her first computer that she loves and be comfortable with. She like it so much she recommended it, and even demonstrated it, to all her friends. You should have seen it. The computer illiterate person fluently demonstrated how to use an iPhone to someone else. It's like a miracle.
You should tell her the phone she's using daily is not convenient. That Android, whom every apps you installed you need to read all the fine details what it can do to your phone, is easier to use. I'd like to see her face.
Convenience can't be demonstrated through things you can't do and/or lack of features. By that theory a dumb phone or NO PHONE is more convenient then an iPhone.
Maybe easier to use for the non tech savvy? Although even saying that I don't find it entirely accurate because every mobile OS pretty easy to use IMO. Features you don't need to use don't have to be used, thats more convenient then needing them and the feature not existing.
Case in point is this thread. Attaching multiple attachments to an email. People have been doing it on computers for decades in a similar fashion as Android uses. Email, click attachment, find your file(s), attach. Pretty basic. Sure, that could be confusing to some but its a lot more convenient then Apples way of doing it. And like we are discussing here, impossible with multiple attachments like PDF's which is highly inconvenient.
There is nothing convenient about having to do workaround for basic email attachment functions.
ios needs a simple file repository and attachments need to be handled just like photos are. That way grandma won't get overwhelmed and actual business users will have basic functionality.
The sandboxing of documents needs to end.
I live without this *basic* function for years., and prosper.
I give you one example why I chuckle at this thread, and at geeks in general. For years, people complained that iOS has no easy way to turn Wi-Fi on/off. That it lacked *basic* feature. When we wanted to turn Wi-Fi off, we had to go to Settings. Then comes iOS 7, and you can turn it on/off easily with Control Center. I'm using iOS 7 on my iPad 2 since day 1 and just a week ago I had to turn my Wi-Fi off because of some network problem. Do you know what I did? I went to the Settings app and turned it off there.
I guess I can turn it off in Control Center but if I have to stop and think about "hey! Now there's a new way to do it" instead of just doing it and get on with it. I don't think a few seconds I saved would worth it.
I don't mind if Apple add this *basic features* you wanted in the near future. But you should see some people struggling with Android phone before talking about convenience. I have seen some and it's such a riot. Case in point, one of my friend has Galaxy phone and she never did anything more than email, web, Facebook, Instagram, Line, basic things like these because doing complicated things on Android was difficult. While my wife who's a computer illiterate now can download a song and edit and make it Ringtone for her phone (using some apps) all by herself, with no one teaching her how to.
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I suspect that you had to "think about it" because it's a feature you never really cared about in the first place.
If it's something you want, you'll use it. I haven't toggled wifi in settings since September of last year. Having it in the control center is great and long overdue.
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I don't think there is necessarily no way - i.e. that iOS doesn't allow it - but maybe there is just not suitable app at the moment. Like you say, Mailbox almost does it but not quite. But surely it's not outside of the current iOS regulations for a third party app to go one step further and sync dropbox files to the device? Or is it dropbox that doesn't allow this?
To reply to an email with attachments, we know that the first thing you need is another mail client. There are plenty of them. There are also plenty of apps that act as drives so you can store files and attach multiple of them to new emails.
So surely it's possible for an app to combine those two features, so you can reply with attachments? I agree, there might not be one right now, but there could be one that can run on non-jailbroken devices, surely?
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I just remembered a workaround I tried a few times with mixed results.
1. Start new email with one of the apps that let you attach multiple files.
2. Save the new email as draft.
3. Open the draft, select all, copy.
4. Go to the email you want to respond to with attachment, select reply, then paste.
Sometimes this worked, other times I ended up with just non-working links attached to the reply email. And in any case, it's several steps too many if you need to do this frequently.
1. Start new email with one of the apps that let you attach multiple files.
2. Save the new email as draft.
3. Open the draft, select all, copy.
4. Go to the email you want to respond to with attachment, select reply, then paste.
Sometimes this worked, other times I ended up with just non-working links attached to the reply email. And in any case, it's several steps too many if you need to do this frequently.
"If I want to turn tethering on, I tap an icon and it's on. Turn off? Tap the icon." - it's not that hard to tap settings > hotspot in iOS so to dedicate an icon to this function alone isn't really needed honestly.
"If I want to have a specific sound EQ setting for the car I'm in or the room I'm in, I tap the icon. Done." - I listen to music all the time no matter where I am and always run my EQ flat. Don't you consider it a fuss to always have to change your EQ?
"If I want to reply to an email at 60WPM, swype. I'm only 25WPM on iOS keyboard, which I find less convenient." - Mic icon > speak your reply. Done that's what 100WPM? Swype's manual correction workflow isn't efficient imo.
"I have a zip file and need to unzip it? I search for and install an app that can do it and it's unzipped and using the contents in under a minute. That's convenient." - iOS users don't need to deal with zip files.
"I need the display on a bigger screen? I plug in an HDMI cable. Convenient" - Press Airplay button. Even more convenient.
"I need to know if someone sent me a message? My phone is over on the counter charging 20 feet away. I glance at it and no blinky light so I don't have to go over and check it. I find that convenient." - This I have a problem with. If the light is blinking and you can't tell if it's urgent or not you have to walk over to your phone and pick it up anyhow. iOS has repeating alerts for messages so I don't know how that LED is of any benefit.
"I want to play some old MP3s I ripped 10 years ago and they're in a folder in my computer? I dump them in my phone and play them in the same order I ordered them in 10 years ago with no fuss, no iTunes struggle. How convenient!" - Except when the SD card has issues mounting and the songs don't play at all until you restart the phone.
You know what's convenient? purchasing music on iTunes and it downloading it to all your iDevices at once.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time so don't get me wrong but Android isn't the "heaven" that people claim it is either.
"If I want to have a specific sound EQ setting for the car I'm in or the room I'm in, I tap the icon. Done." - I listen to music all the time no matter where I am and always run my EQ flat. Don't you consider it a fuss to always have to change your EQ?
"If I want to reply to an email at 60WPM, swype. I'm only 25WPM on iOS keyboard, which I find less convenient." - Mic icon > speak your reply. Done that's what 100WPM? Swype's manual correction workflow isn't efficient imo.
"I have a zip file and need to unzip it? I search for and install an app that can do it and it's unzipped and using the contents in under a minute. That's convenient." - iOS users don't need to deal with zip files.
"I need the display on a bigger screen? I plug in an HDMI cable. Convenient" - Press Airplay button. Even more convenient.
"I need to know if someone sent me a message? My phone is over on the counter charging 20 feet away. I glance at it and no blinky light so I don't have to go over and check it. I find that convenient." - This I have a problem with. If the light is blinking and you can't tell if it's urgent or not you have to walk over to your phone and pick it up anyhow. iOS has repeating alerts for messages so I don't know how that LED is of any benefit.
"I want to play some old MP3s I ripped 10 years ago and they're in a folder in my computer? I dump them in my phone and play them in the same order I ordered them in 10 years ago with no fuss, no iTunes struggle. How convenient!" - Except when the SD card has issues mounting and the songs don't play at all until you restart the phone.
You know what's convenient? purchasing music on iTunes and it downloading it to all your iDevices at once.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time so don't get me wrong but Android isn't the "heaven" that people claim it is either.
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If you are saying what is "convenient" is different for each person, then I agree. But I don't understand why you say iOS users don't need to deal with zip files. If a client or colleague emails me a zip file, then yes, I do need to deal with it (and I do, using GoodReader). Also, yes, buying music from iTunes is very convenient, except when you already own the music, in which case buying it again isn't really convenient.
In this day and age of Google Docs, Google Drive, Dropbox, Skydrive and other cloud solutions that allow you to share files with others by simply e-mailing them a link to the file makes the practice of zipping and e-mailing files obsolete.
The concept of dragging a folder with mp3s in it to your phone and calling it a day also has it's drawbacks.
If your songs do not have the proper ID tags a file named Aerosmith-Crazy.mp3 will display as "Track 1" on most modern music applications. You wouldn't know the tags are wrong unless you viewed the songs in iTunes or another music application.
Depends on the needs of a person. This kind of capability is somewhat coming in iOS 8 right? Android generally always at least offers the option to do something like that if the user needs it.
While I'm in the "flat EQ" camp as well, again it's nice to have a quick option. Of course ideally the phone would detect if you are in the car and adjust accordingly. That's probably possible on Android using Tasker or something, don't know.
Yeah good luck with voice recognition and non-English languages. Just doesn't work that well.
What if someone mails you a zip? At least with Android you can deal with it on the go if you absolutely must. What DOES iOS actually do with zip files if you click them?
Convenient as long as you have compatible hardware etc. HDMI is more guaranteed to work.
The LED is actually pretty useful. It's main purpose is to tell you that you have some kind of message, urgent or not. What you do when you see the light is entirely up to you. I find iOS's repeating alerts a lot more annoying.
I haven't seen SD card mount issues at least with my Galaxy S4. Not saying they don't exist but I think they are not a big issue with newer Android versions.
Android is far from perfect but at the moment I find it better for my purposes than iOS. If they ever bother to let you choose default apps (like what browser opens when clicking a link in another app) and add a proper file system (so you don't have to deal with iOS poorly guessing some other apps to try and handle what a file system should do) then I'll reconsider. Maybe iOS 9 or 10...
Brings up the "open in.." app picker. If you have apps installed that handles zip files, they show up in the picker, and you can hand off the file and unzip them. Apps like Dropbox and OneDrive also show up in the picker, so you can upload the zip file to your file storage service if you want.
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Aside from opening links in default apps (web urls in Safari, YouTube links in YouTube, maps link in maps app, etc), iOS doesn't try to guess what to do with a file. It always shows you the app picker, and YOU chose which app you want to send that file to,
Lol, I like how you refer to is as *basic feature* like its something exotic. I picture someone doing air quotes while saying it.
Anyone that has used a computer to send an email over the last 20+ years has been exposed to this *basic feature*. Thats why we are calling it basic, because like the definition of the word its a fundamental function of email clients.
Keep in mind if iOS's way was such a great way of doing things then OSX would operate the same way. And also Apple wouldn't be integrating features to make file attaching easier.
You can try to keep throwing Android under the spotlight for being complicated but you are just making yourself look silly because its MUCH easier to attach files in Android and its possible to attach more then one other file to the same email. And if for some reason you can't figure it out because you've never sent an email in your life or something then its a moot point because you'll certainly never figure it out in iOS.
*try*?
I don't care who's doing more, or whose _ick is bigger. I just told what I experienced. If you can't accept it then it's your problem, not mine.
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