It's my preference. Why put the lights there at all if they are not easy to click on?but why are you trying to click the buttons when it's so much easier to just use he keyboard?!?!?
It's my preference. Why put the lights there at all if they are not easy to click on?but why are you trying to click the buttons when it's so much easier to just use he keyboard?!?!?
I am nowhere close to 20/20 vision, even with glasses my vision is quite bad. But I can get by just fine with native resolution.All the UI text is too small if you don't have 20/20 vision. I'm talking about the text in dialog boxes, menu, settings, tool type, etc. What's worse, all apps follow this base line text size. Only way to make it bigger is to run in lower resolution, which is stupid
I can't stand the attitude of people who as long as something works for them think they can tell other people to f*** off and use something else
I agree. Also, I find the classic menu system Windows has (File, Edit, View, etc) to be much harder to read than Apple's implementation. It is actually on Windows I need to lower my resolution as the menu bar is an old 1990s style.Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I would support having more ways for users to customize things like this on MacOS. But not sure that I understand the complaint here. Just did a quick comparison by lining up MacOS Mountain Lion (left) Monterey (center) and Windows 10 (right) windows simultaneously on the same monitor using Parallels.
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To my eyes, it appears that the "traffic light" buttons are a little larger on Monterey than they were on Mountain Lion and not all that much smaller (although closer together) than Windows. Sorry, have not used Ventura or Sonoma. The font size on Windows actually looks smaller but maybe I changed some settings?
Anyway, thought it would be interesting to do a quick comparison where everything is showing on the same screen at the same time. I really don't have any problems with these interface issues on either the Mac or Windows. For me, operating systems are just tools for getting a job done. I have plenty of likes/dislikes, but try not to dwell on them.
I'm using a 2018 Mini with a 32 inch QHD (2560x1440) BenQ DesignView Monitor running at native resolution with no scaling. When I got this computer, there was a lot of discussion about display scaling causing performance issues with the UHD 630 graphics chip on the 2018 Mini, so I got a screen that would give me reasonable sized text at native resolution. I was happy with the ancient 23" Apple Cinema display I'd used before which is 100 dpi, so I got this screen which is around 94 dpi (a bit larger text, which I like). FWIW, I'm 75 years old and have always worn glasses.
So, this makes me wonder whether the complaints here have more to do with the size/resolution of the monitors you are using (such as the built-in screen on a laptop or an iMac)? I considered getting an iMac instead of a Mini back in 2020, but went with the Mini primarily because I wanted to make my own screen choice.
It's my preference. Why put the lights there at all if they are not easy to click on?
I use Windows, so it is not the hard way for me. Only on the Mac. If it's no big deal, why doesn't Apple just fix it? Accessibility is all the rage these days. Except when it isn't.The “lights” are a relic and an indicator
Why is your preference to do things the hard way?
Whew buddy, ableism is not the way.It's not a flaw, it's working as intended. Looks like you would be better off staying on Windows.
No there's no way to make them bigger other than scaling, but then you will make everything else bigger too.
Don't bother me with that bad faith nonsense, macOS has accessibility options.Whew buddy, ableism is not the way.
I use Windows, so it is not the hard way for me. Only on the Mac. If it's no big deal, why doesn't Apple just fix it? Accessibility is all the rage these days. Except when it isn't.
Whew buddy, ableism is not the way.
Why are people asking “why are you trying to click on them?”
That’s literally the only point of them …to be clicked
Yes they are there to be clicked, but if Simeon is having trouble clicking them for some reason then there is another option, which just so happenes
to be easier and more ergonomic than grabbing for the mouse
What accessibility is lacking ?I think we all get that, but it’s a different topic than wanting some accessibility options for the UI
Some people get my point. Some don't. You don't. That is fine with me.It’s also simpler and more efficient to use the keyboard in windows as well
Every time you reach for the mouse when you could be using the keyboard you are cheating yourself
Not sure how using an extra device makes it more accessible ?
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And if you only use windows why do you care about something in macOS anyway?
What accessibility is lacking ?
The ability to scale various parts of the UI to suit the users preferences, or needs
That’s precisely what accessibility settings are / are for
… to make something more “accessible”
Some people get my point. Some don't. You don't. That is fine with me.
If it was a "proper" refresh, they would have fixed this. It speaks to inaccessibility.
Good article. This sums up my argument:
"In Mac OS X, the red/yellow/green buttons in window title bars are much smaller and closely-spaced compared to other UI elements like toolbar buttons.
Making UI elements small makes them harder to click, especially at higher resolutions on smaller screens, when using non-mouse (trackpad) interfaces, or for elderly/young/disabled users."
Also, they really do not even have to make them actually bigger. Just increase the "active" area around them like Windows did with their - _ X in the upper right of each window. A no brainer, Apple!
Maybe it’s okay for you, but you’re literally replying to a thread made by someone who finds those buttons inadequate and too small. To argue that they’re “plenty large enough to see and click” in this thread just comes across as being wilfully obtuse.It doesn’t need “fixing” as it’s not “broken”. They are plenty large enough to see and click.
It’s not a Fisher-Price UI.
That's a really terrible thing to say. With the accessibility dynamic text sizes turned up to the largest size on an iPhone you'd probably say the same thing and some people need it to be like that.It doesn’t need “fixing” as it’s not “broken”. They are plenty large enough to see and click.
It’s not a Fisher-Price UI.
You are wrong.It doesn’t need “fixing” as it’s not “broken”. They are plenty large enough to see and click.
It’s not a Fisher-Price UI.
Which do you use for iOS? I have Adguard and Norton Ad Blocker which were working great for years, but lately don’t seem to do anything, there are ads everywhereif you have good blockers you will never see ads in iOS (or macOS or linux)
but why are you trying to click the buttons when it's so much easier to just use he keyboard?!?!?
bottom line: there's no choice but to use the mouse when dealing with at least the green button.