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Apple and Google need to grow up and mend relations. They are two US companies who are, for the most part, in different fields and together their strength in the world would be unmatched.

Hey Google, license your maps to Apple and let them offer Turn by Turn on them. Hey Apple, license iTunes to Google/Android devices and give Google a little cut of every downloaded song and movie. You have iTunes for Windows - so why not iTunes for Android?

Send each other warm fuzzies and big checks, and everyone wins.

/dream
 
I've made changes to Google maps in the past and usually, the changes take effect within 24 hours. I've made about a dozen changes to Apple maps since ios 6 came out and I've yet to see any of the changes take effect. Has anyone actually seen changes that they've made take effect?
 
Apple and Google need to grow up and mend relations. They are two US companies who are, for the most part, in different fields and together their strength in the world would be unmatched.

Hey Google, license your maps to Apple and let them offer Turn by Turn on them. Hey Apple, license iTunes to Google/Android devices and give Google a little cut of every downloaded song and movie. You have iTunes for Windows - so why not iTunes for Android?

Send each other warm fuzzies and big checks, and everyone wins.

/dream

Seriously? You don't think they are competitors in, let's say, mobile phone technology?????
 
Do what you've been doing for Google maps for the past 7 years; use it, report mistakes and submit changes.

By switching to an in-house service, Apple is starting from scratch and needs the help from its loyal customers, not their unhelpful complaints.
 
It is what it is but I'm happy to contribute to getting it fixed. This whole fiasco has made me more aware of the issues of local data and whose responsibility it is to keep information accurate. Taking the position that it's Apple's mess, let them fix it ignores the factor it's your community and you have the best knowledge to help show your community in the best light.

Really we as individuals should look at all sources of local information and help make the accurate, for he benefit of our community and those who visit it. Ideally this would all be public domain - I wish Apple had gone a more open route for maps and local information.

In the meantime since I'm a heavy Apple user and they need the most help I will focus my efforts there.
 
One way is to whine and complain on message boards bashing anyone using common sense to discuss this beta type issue, or when u find an error report using the built in report feature. There is no way one company could roll this out without user input or beta. Google Nav was in beta for years...
 
Great! If I ever have a poor performance review at work I will just say it was my Beta. Let's see if that works.
 
There is 1 thing I know that users can do. One of my biggest problems with the new maps app is that many of the points of interest in my area are missing or wrong. A few days ago I tried to lookup my dentist using the maps app and it wasn't listed. I remembered that apple is now using yelp for points of interest so I loaded up the yelp app and searched it and same thing, the business wasn't listed but I found out that I could manually add it. So I added it myself with the address and phone number and about 30 minutes later I opened the maps app and searched again and it was now listed with the info I added.

tldr; users can go into the yelp app or website and add or correct business entries and they will take effect in the ios6 maps app about 1/2 hour later
 
Seriously? You don't think they are competitors in, let's say, mobile phone technology?????
Apple competes with Samsung, and Samsung made phones long before Apple came along. Yet they do work together. All I'm saying is that competitors can stilll negotiate and license. It happens all the time.
 
Apple competes with Samsung, and Samsung made phones long before Apple came along. Yet they do work together. All I'm saying is that competitors can stilll negotiate and license. It happens all the time.

Моst probable is that they won't work together. For example, Apple was asking Adobe, a much closer partner, to publish OS X native Photoshop for more than 2 years without success. In Google's case, there is much more direct competition and turn by turn simply wouldn't happen. Its same as there was no VBA on Excel for Mac 2008, a key component for many companies, but of course the Windows version had it. Anyway, being at mercy of someone is not nice, being at mercy of Google I guess is hopeless for such grown is the evil within Google.

Instead of tearfully asking Google for years for some functions (make no mistake, turn by turn wasn't implemented by Google for years in iOS), its better to create an own version, maybe not perfect, but which control is in Apple's hands.
 
I feel our efforts would be far better placed in demanding back what we had. What we PAID FOR when we bought our devices.

No one else feeling a little ripped off?

Keep wasting your time whining and crying. It's definitely going to help your situation. :rolleyes:

Apple's contract was running out within the next year with Google. If they would have stayed with Google Maps, they would have had to either continue offering an inferior product (without turn by turn, voice navigation, siri integration, landscape mode, etc) or make a bunch of concessions to Google and have your Maps app have the Google logo plastered all over it.

Instead, they chose to make their own app, which somewhat future-proofs them. It gives them the option to provide these new features (turn by turn, siri integration) and add more in the future. The app itself is actually quite good.

Yes, there are still many areas where the map data itself is still lacking. But it's not like Google maps is perfect by any means.

Apple is the richest company in the world. They have an install base of over 100 million iPhones, plus millions of iPads and iPod touches. You can bet they have a large group of employees (Articles have said they are expanding this department) dedicated only to working on the mapping data. It doesn't matter how big their team is... they are working to map the ENTIRE WORLD. That takes time, and using the resources of the hundreds of millions of users in your install base is the only way to make it happen.

It WILL get better. And it will get better faster if, when you find a problem, you take 2 minutes out of your life to report it. Much better use than taking 2 minutes of your life to bitch about it on an internet forum.

Drop your sense of entitlement and have a little bit of patience. Is it really that big of a deal to add a shortcut to maps.google.com on your home screen for a few months? There are tons of people in this world who wish this was their biggest problem.
 
Apple was in an unenviable spot and had to make a decision. They could either renew their license with Google and live with a lackluster Maps app that they couldn’t control, or they could run with a lackluster Maps app of their own creation that they could control.

What would be lackluster about a Google Maps app? For one, it would suck in comparison to Google Maps on Android, (no turn-by-turn). It would also have ads.

So Apple chose a mapping solution that they could control, a solution they could improve. Is it better than Google Maps right now? Definitely not, and it probably won’t be on that level for a while. But it was the logical choice considering Apple’s situation.

So instead of just shouting "it sucks" is there anything we can do to help improve it? Apple said it'll get better as more people use it; how? I'm willing to help if there are some instructions on how we can make it better.

Yes, I agree. We must band together to help the $600 billion dollar Apple Corp. I think I'm going to buy a case of $20 Lightning cables tonight just to be sure they turn a profit this quarter ... I really feel bad for those guys and girls in California.
 
"Drop your sense of entitlement"

A sense of entitlement for something I bought and has now been taken away from me through a miss-sold replacement? Too right.
 
I feel our efforts would be far better placed in demanding back what we had. What we PAID FOR when we bought our devices.

No one else feeling a little ripped off?

What you paid for when you bought your new devices is Apple Maps. Apple never said you'd get Google maps with iOS 6.
 
There is 1 thing I know that users can do. One of my biggest problems with the new maps app is that many of the points of interest in my area are missing or wrong. A few days ago I tried to lookup my dentist using the maps app and it wasn't listed. I remembered that apple is now using yelp for points of interest so I loaded up the yelp app and searched it and same thing, the business wasn't listed but I found out that I could manually add it. So I added it myself with the address and phone number and about 30 minutes later I opened the maps app and searched again and it was now listed with the info I added.

tldr; users can go into the yelp app or website and add or correct business entries and they will take effect in the ios6 maps app about 1/2 hour later

This is a problem. Yelp has very poor points of interest data. They purchased data from a national data provider 4 years ago and haven't updated it since unless the business signs on or they get submissions for fixes. That leaves millions of businesses with stale data.
 
Has anyone noticed any updates on the maps? I'm sure many people have submitted errors, but I haven't heard about Apple fixing anything yet...
 
Has anyone noticed any updates on the maps? I'm sure many people have submitted errors, but I haven't heard about Apple fixing anything yet...

I have. In my town, there are a few POIs in the wrong position which I used the "Report a Problem" feature to report. After several days, some - but not all - of these have been corrected. Also, in a neighboring town, I've noticed that some (but not all) of these location errors (which I didn't get around to reporting) have also been corrected.

So, it seems like they are dynamically working on the issues. It'll take time. Hooefully, they'll accelerate the process as they go.

In general, I'm happy with Maps. I understand Apple's need to get away from Google, and thus produce their own product. I wish it was better, but there are a lot of positives, and I know that it'll improve as we go. It does concern me when traveling, though.
 
Has anyone noticed any updates on the maps? I'm sure many people have submitted errors, but I haven't heard about Apple fixing anything yet...

I think it's just a matter of time until Apple breaks news that the user submitted data was not being stored, or they have not implemented a system to interface these data with the map.
If they had something, they would have already told us how it works and what we need to do, considering the situation.
 
Apple had another year on the Google maps license. They didn't have to dump Google maps before theirs was ready. Only a company as arrogant as Apple would foist a half-ass replacement on it's customers and expect them to lap it up like gold. Trouble is, you fanboys are lapping it up like gold and asking for more. "What can we do to help?". I'm disgusted.
 
I think in all honesty the best way to help Apple is to go out and buy an Android phone.
They need to learn that they are not invincible.
 
Apple had another year on the Google maps license. They didn't have to dump Google maps before theirs was ready. Only a company as arrogant as Apple would foist a half-ass replacement on it's customers and expect them to lap it up like gold. Trouble is, you fanboys are lapping it up like gold and asking for more. "What can we do to help?". I'm disgusted.

You're being dramatic. Have a Snickers and stop being such a diva.

Ya, they had another year on the contract. It would've been another year with zero turn-by-turn in the native app. They weighed it and decided turn-by-turn was important enough to switch now. Google is the arrogant party, for insisting that in order for Apple to get turn-by-turn functionality, they also utilize Google's social-location service - which Apple didn't want to do for user-privacy related reasons.
 
Apple was in an unenviable spot and had to make a decision. They could either renew their license with Google and live with a lackluster Maps app that they couldn’t control, or they could run with a lackluster Maps app of their own creation that they could control.

What would be lackluster about a Google Maps app? For one, it would suck in comparison to Google Maps on Android, (no turn-by-turn). It would also have ads.

So Apple chose a mapping solution that they could control, a solution they could improve. Is it better than Google Maps right now? Definitely not, and it probably won’t be on that level for a while. But it was the logical choice considering Apple’s situation.

So instead of just shouting "it sucks" is there anything we can do to help improve it? Apple said it'll get better as more people use it; how? I'm willing to help if there are some instructions on how we can make it better.

Uh...If you call Google Maps Lackluster, wtf do you call Apple Maps because i'm fairly sure 99.9% of the iOS users would prefer it at this point.

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They are no longer signing 5.1.1. We are literally stuck on a miss-sold maps app.

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That's a good point, if you go back and watch how proud Scott Forestal appears to be about the Maps app with all it's flyover animation etc like it's the best part of iOS6 and then they put that cr@p on a production release, he ought to be embarrased.
 
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