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So instead of just shouting "it sucks" is there anything we can do to help improve it? Apple said it'll get better as more people use it; how? I'm willing to help if there are some instructions on how we can make it better.
McDonalds brought back the McRib and work productivity has slowed to a crawl since my employees are now taking 200% more bathroom breaks per day. Is there any way we (the consumer) can help McDonalds make their products that we pay for easier to digest?
 
Apple and Google need to grow up and mend relations. They are two US companies who are, for the most part, in different fields and together their strength in the world would be unmatched.

Hey Google, license your maps to Apple and let them offer Turn by Turn on them. Hey Apple, license iTunes to Google/Android devices and give Google a little cut of every downloaded song and movie. You have iTunes for Windows - so why not iTunes for Android?

Send each other warm fuzzies and big checks, and everyone wins.

/dream

One word: competition. Apple makes Windows-compatible versions of iTunes only because otherwise, they would sell a lot less iPods, iPads and iPhones.
 
McDonalds brought back the McRib and work productivity has slowed to a crawl since my employees are now taking 200% more bathroom breaks per day. Is there any way we (the consumer) can help McDonalds make their products that we pay for easier to digest?

Perfect and hilarious analogy....

I think there are too many sheep in the Apple orchard.....
 
Dear Apple,

I have weekends off. If you want to pay me a nice chunk of change, I will comb over every inch of my hometown to make your app better. But don't you dare think I'm going to do this for free. You've made a lot of money off of me already, and I'm not about to become your free developer.

If you are willing to pay, let's talk.
 
Dear Apple,

I have weekends off. If you want to pay me a nice chunk of change, I will comb over every inch of my hometown to make your app better. But don't you dare think I'm going to do this for free. You've made a lot of money off of me already, and I'm not about to become your free developer.

If you are willing to pay, let's talk.

Dear Apple,

I'll work for half of what Italianblend will charge you. Unfortunately, with my town being a complete disaster, it will likely take me 4-5x longer to fix your maps so I'll end up costing you significantly more in the long term.

I am, however, open to working for stock options.
 
Yeah, lets all help the richest company in the world clean up their terrible half-assed mapping system...

..For free.

Sounds fair.

It's not their mapping system, it's ours. :)

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Dear Apple,

I'll work for half of what Italianblend will charge you. Unfortunately, with my town being a complete disaster, it will likely take me 4-5x longer to fix your maps so I'll end up costing you significantly more in the long term.

I am, however, open to working for stock options.

Both your hometowns will stay wrong then and it'll be your faults. :rolleyes:
 
Actually so far the new maps has been OK for me, but the more I use it, the more errors in POI's I find. Thus I am less impressed now than I was initially. Also, I am annoyed that I have taken the time to submit corrections and not one of them has been acted on. To my way of thinking, that's just disrespectful of Apple and its mapping partners.

Fundamentally, though, I think the issue is not so much Apple per se, but the partners from which they have licensed software. I think Yelp is complete crap where I am, so why on earth are Apple relying on them for anything? That same thing with Siri - Nuance is such an awful company that I am surprised that Apple partnered with them (Ever try to order an upgrade of Dragon Dictate from the Nuance UK web site? I dare you to try. :mad:)

Apple should have used its cash reserves to develop solutions from scratch, or they should have bought companies outright and whipped them into shape. Licensing software, as Apple have done, has simply allowed the QC issues of second-rate companies infect Apple's brand.

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Apple should have used its cash reserves to develop solutions from scratch, or they should have bought companies outright and whipped them into shape.

That's pretty much what they did... They bought C3 technologies, PlaceBase, Poly 9. Then they used their massive cash reserves to secure mapping data (not software, data) from TomTom and used the distributed OpenStreetMaps project for other areas TomTom couldn't cover.

They all built this on infrastructure that was internal to them, in their own data centers, they built the software that runs it all.

And this was the result. That's because building a solid mapping application, integrating the data from 3rd parties and making sure it's highly available to millions of users is not a walk in the park. It's hard. Google didn't just get it right on day 1, they've worked on it for 7 years now (even more considering they bought a company that was already doing mapping).
 
Ah. I did not realize that Apple had bought some companies rather than simply licensing software/data.
 
It's not their mapping system, it's ours. :)

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Both your hometowns will stay wrong then and it'll be your faults. :rolleyes:

Wrong... There are many map apps (Apple has a list for you) and they are all accurate. Why not just use one of them. And by the way, it is a myth to think users really helped Google maps. Google developed their mapping system through hard work and hiring thousands of people on the ground, analysis of all sorts of cartographic work already published.

It is a myth that to have a good app, the users must contribute.

How sad for Apple....

There is no excuse, in this day and age, to have a map program that fails so miserably to give correct directions and is so inaccurate. There is no excuse not to have the data in place before selling it to the public under ios6..

That Cook concedes other mapping programs offered in the App store are better than Apple's own map app, and that these third-party apps are accurate and easy to use, only further demonstrates the lack of caring Apple showed to its customers. There is no need, in this day and age, with all the mapping technology and data out there, for Apple to have any of these problems. Tim Cook, by suggesting users download other mapping programs that actually perform correctly, is also admitting that there are products out there they don't need the users' help and input to run correctly.

Perhaps they should stop there litigious behavior and concentrate on producing quality products.
 
Wrong... There are many map apps (Apple has a list for you) and they are all accurate. Why not just use one of them. And by the way, it is a myth to think users really helped Google maps. Google developed their mapping system through hard work and hiring thousands of people on the ground, analysis of all sorts of cartographic work already published.

Not true - users did help Google Maps evolve. The fact that Africa is mapped in Google is largely because of user participation through their Map Maker. The most recent example is Afghanistan & Iraq - info here:
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_maps_adds_new_crowdsourced_maps_of_afghanis.php

In the US the Map Maker is mainly used to expand their POI database:
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_map_maker_comes_to_the_US.php

It is a myth that to have a good app, the users must contribute.

In most cases - but if the app is reliant on user input and editions, not so much a myth.
 
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