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Not sure it's all down to them. I bought 2 x 4GB from Megamac in 2018 so the 8GB lasted 7 years. I don't know what the life of those RAM modules are supposed to be or why they suddenly fail, but they certainly don't work now. The original 2 x 2GB didn't beep when I put them back in, and they did start it up, but it's still a fail. More amazed I still had them and found them. I didn't realise you could put 2 x 8GB in them. Thought it would be incompatible. Had I known, I'd have bought some of them years ago. Don't know if it would have speeded much up, but sure would have been a help with multi tasking?
Thanks. I feel your pain. So about the same shelf life as mine then. I think it's also something to do with giving up the power with those old MBPs, because it was so easy to change the battery, SSD, RAM etc., which you don't have on the current iterations. You get what you get now.
It's just reading the cycles from macOS. If you look in System Information, you can see the same number there.
You can get away with higher than 16gb ram if you open core your MBP, but that’s all good as long it’s 8gb or higher ram for newer macOS versions
I think it's too knackered to cope with that or open core. I did ask about that once before, but I think that ship has sailed?
Just a heads-up: the Open Core Legacy Patcher is going away soon, as macOS Tahoe is the last macOS version for Intel Macs. 💻
I'd have been happy with something remotely more modern than High Sierra on the MBP, not Tahoe, but something in last 5 years or so
What kind of things do you do on your Mac?
Sorry man, just seen this. In a nutshell …
For photoshop 24GB RAM will cut it. It ain’t Hollywood level photo and video editing stuff so it should be fine.
Install High Sierra* on an external drive (good time for a cheap SSD), and use Migration Assistant to import from the internal.
Definitely not that advanced. Code? Wouldn’t have a clue mate. I’m probably quite basic.
Yeh, I did upgrade to the APFS on most but no idea why, It’s interesting you mention MDS stores, whenever I check utility and the ones that are making fan do 100 it’s usually always them in the mix.
If you’re looking for something with 24GB or 16GB of RAM, that should be plenty.
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I remember using Photoshop in 1gb ram on a white iMac running Snow Leopard, and it was snappy. --Everything is leaden bloatware now.
Indeed decades ago 8GB to 16GB RAM was a top notch upgrade for macs including early versions of MacBook Pro, but latest developments in 64 bit apps, AI enabled features and graphics cards demand more on RAM and CPU usage.
No, Apple killed off 32bit, which meant lean coding techniques became a lost art.
No there aren't. Black-Friday sales of last-year models are one of the biggest rip-offs in advertising. Especially for "newish" M-chip MBs, which are going to crater another 75% within three or four years until they're no higher valued than used intel Macs than can run twice the software (32bit access) with no security-chip headaches.
Efficient coding hangs on: Reaper DAW comes to mind, under 100mb versus multi-GB LogicPro.
I never wanted to give that up, Snow Leopard I would've used forever and a day. Don't know what it was about it, but it was a big fave.
I don't suppose I would notice any difference between the M5 and the M4Pro for what I do now.
Those persons who liked their Intel-era MBs may be and often are disappointed with Apple's more recent machines. In particular, they cannot run much if any of their existing paid-for software (such as, say, CS6, FCP7, Pro Tools, etc) and are thus trapped in subscription-model hell, and the OS is now incredibly obtuse, ram-hungry beyond any rational reason, ridden with telemetry, and has a very Microsoft mentality when it comes to honoring the user's manual changes to system settings (such as instructing it to not auto-update).
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That's interesting and something I'd not thought about before, Are you saying that things I use like Microsoft Word and Photoshop that I've used for decades are not just one and done anymore, and I have to pay subscriptions to be able to use new versions of them? They both were pre Sierra and was told they wouldn't work on High Sierra, but they both did. I know they're finished after HS, and would have to splash out on new software?
