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Is Vista on par with OS X?

Paulsan said:
Is Vista on par with OS X?
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Put lipstick on a pig, doesn't keep it from sh**ing.

That's an extreme metaphor but unfortunately accurate. Vista is nice, smooth, and pretty, but still is clunky. I actually find it far more "In your face".

Paulsan said:
A guy posted on another forum that Windows Vista is now on par with Mac OS X.
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Well, either he hasn't spent enough time with both, or he doesn't tickle the differences with the os's, e.g. he doesn't use them very deeply, and that's ok. It's opinion.
 
had the misfortune of looking at a friends pc the other day. it was akin to having an icepick stabbed into the back of my eye. I am not kidding. Thinking about cluster headaches actually gives me uncomfortable twinges, not unlike looking at 'you know what...'
 
TheStranger55 said:
While MAC OS X is overall better in my opinion, Vista does beat MAC OS X in a few areas such as:

1) recycle bin. You can delete multiple things from multiple locations and if you ever need to undo those deletes you just click a button and voila they all go back to their orignal locations.
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I clicked a button and damn.. where did all my files go?? I didn't remember to location of these files before I removed them and I'll have no way to get all these files back to the bin!! Now imagine you have lots of things in the bin and a few files to restore. This becomes a chore cuz you gotta remember where the original location of the deleted file was and go back to delete some of the files that you actually wanted them deleted from there.

TheStranger55 said:
The trash bin in MAC OS X you gotta remember where the original location of the deleted file was and then drag and drop it there. Imagine you have lots of things in the trash bin and this becomes a chore.
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Again, the files are there in the trash can. Why on earth you want to move them back to the exact location before you delete it??!! You'd want to pick a few files to check if they're what you're looking for and then keep in a safe location so you won't mistakenly delete it again.
 
Navintar said:
Again, the files are there in the trash can. Why on earth you want to move them back to the exact location before you delete it??!! You'd want to pick a few files to check if they're what you're looking for and then keep in a safe location so you won't mistakenly delete it again.
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And you've never accidentally deleted a file? That is a handy feature in Vista, but that's about it. There's no comparison between the 2, OSX is just that much further ahead.

Vista was Microsoft's attempt at polishing a turd. And as the old saying goes, you just can't polish one no matter how hard you try. M$ needs to just completely scrap what they have so far and start over if they want a halfway decent OS that can compare with OSX. If Apple hadn't done that, and just kept building on OS9, they wouldn't be where they are today
 
I think that is what the trashcan is there for in the first place. How many windows users actually look through their Recycle Bin before emptying it? I know I don't and I use both OS's pretty often. Don't windows users do the same thing that we do too? I.e right-click and choose "Empty Recycle Bin"?
 
he was saying under windows, when you just click the file in trash can, and choose "restore", it will go back to its original location(even if its buried under a 6 level directory). while under OSX, you can't do that.

it is indeed useful, if you mis-select files (happens when you select a bunch of file) for delete.
 
I have been using vista at work since RC1. I think visually its prettier then xp but usability it really really sucks horribly. I mean UAC is just useless I think they should of had some type of questionaire during setup that asked what type of user you are like amature = UAC professional = no UAC if at all. Also the Control Panel is super cluttered I still to this day have a hard time finding the Add/Remove Programs. Another thing is what is up with the versions come on MS Home Basic, Home Premium, Business and Ultimate??????? Give me a break here just say "rip off waterdown version" and "bend over bloated version" at least I would be content with that. Memory and system resources hog, everymorning I come into work I log into it and go get cofee and water and take a piss and come back just to see the damm hard drive still cranking away at login. This is on a Core 2 Duo 2.16 with 2GB of RAM what more do you want Vista a Server Class machine? I just purchased my MAC last week this was after 10+ years in the MS jail, I am really really happy to say that I am glad to be a free man I hate MS and everything about them. It just sucks that I have to use it at work, but hey thats life you win some and you lose some.
 
clevin said:
he was saying under windows, when you just click the file in trash can, and choose "restore", it will go back to its original location(even if its buried under a 6 level directory). while under OSX, you can't do that.

it is indeed useful, if you mis-select files (happens when you select a bunch of file) for delete.
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But the only reason that it does this is because Windows needs that file to be in its original location if its related to a program and OSX does not need to. Correct me if I am wrong I am still a newb here in the OSX world.
 
nando2323 said:
But the only reason that it does this is because Windows needs that file to be in its original location if its related to a program and OSX does not need to. Correct me if I am wrong I am still a newb here in the OSX world.
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It is a really useful feature and I wish OS X had it. Say you area a neat freak and have evrything organised in folders and delete something from a nested folder 6 deep. Then being sensible you look at what is in the trash before you empty it and realise you want it back. Would be a lot easier to hit restore and have it pop back into place rather than have to remember where exactly it came from and navigate back there. It would be trivial to do and very beneficial.
 
nando2323 said:
But the only reason that it does this is because Windows needs that file to be in its original location if its related to a program and OSX does not need to. Correct me if I am wrong I am still a newb here in the OSX world.
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oh my
ok, consider this
Im doing a big project, and i have a special directory for this project on my HDD, like this:

C:\project number one
under which I have 6 levels of sub-directories, every sub directory has a dozen folders

now, when I try to delete a bunch of files in
C:\project number one\level1-1\level2-6\level3-12\level4-7\level5-3\abcde0*.xls

I then found out next day that I accidentally deleted an useful file in that folder called "this is so important.xls". now what?

I can goto windows trash can, right click "this is so important.xls", and choose "restore", it will go back to C:\project number on\level1-1\level2-6\level3-12\level4-7\level5-3\

while under mac, you need to manually open users\project number one\level1-1\level2-6\level3-12\level4-7\level5-3\, thats 5 clicks, and then you need to drag the file from trash can to that folder.

its about user effectively managing their work, not "system files have to be at certain location", and actually, for mac osx, important system files have to be at certain location too!
 
clevin said:
oh my
ok, consider this
Im doing a big project, and i have a special directory for this project on my HDD, like this:

C:\project number one
under which I have 6 levels of sub-directories, every sub directory has a dozen folders

now, when I try to delete a bunch of files in
C:\project number one\level1-1\level2-6\level3-12\level4-7\level5-3\abcde0*.xls

I then found out next day that I accidentally deleted an useful file in that folder called "this is so important.xls". now what?

I can goto windows trash can, right click "this is so important.xls", and choose "restore", it will go back to C:\project number on\level1-1\level2-6\level3-12\level4-7\level5-3\

while under mac, you need to manually open users\project number one\level1-1\level2-6\level3-12\level4-7\level5-3\, thats 5 clicks, and then you need to drag the file from trash can to that folder.

its about user effectively managing their work, not "system files have to be at certain location", and actually, for mac osx, important system files have to be at certain location too!
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This is why I said correct me if I'm wrong!
 
on my windows machine, i just skinned my xp to look like vista aero. that way i don't have to pay money for a new OS, don't have to deal with crazy security issues, etc... I get the pretty without having to switch to a (i've heard) annoying new OS.

Still, the Vista machine I've used was okay. it was visually appealing, but not as nice as OSX, it had okay usability, but not as nice as OSX. It was alright, but nothing I'd pay for.
 
Vortexfl said:
I view Microsoft as being good for business environment and APPLE home use.
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It always baffles me when people say this. I think Microsoft are bad for business, due to the amount of problems that occur and constant maintenance (ref DLL hell, bluescreens), it's like a really expensive girlfriend. Break up from her, get used to life with out her, and things get better.

Not to mention ridiculous license fees for virus software.

As for Apple computers, they will work with whatever you install on them. I'm a graphic/web designer, we all know they are good for that.

You can also do other tasks such as word processing, spreadsheets, databases if you wish, or programming if that's your flavour.

If you just want a general work station, then, my my own experience, Linux will do. Just set the permissions as a user and it just works, faster and more responsive than windows.

I'm not doing this whole anti-microsoft thing... well I am... but this all from what I've learned from experience.
 
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