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Is WatchOS 3 going to lead to no Watch 2 this year ?

jbachandouris said:
Honestly, if watch OS 3 works the way they say it will, I don't need a second gen watch.

If it were a 'given,' as a previous poster stated, there would be leaks (credible leaks). There are none.
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I don't believe that is correct. Here is why:

The reason why we get leaks for iPhones is because Apple needs to manufacture at least 10mil units to have ready for launch which is not a simple task so the companies get a lot of time ahead the launch. However, AW doesn't need those numbers so they will need less time and therefore its still too early for any leaks.
Also, same goes for macs. Remember retina MBP? I don't think that leaked either. Simply, those "low" products don't leak as much as the iPhone.
I believe we will see AW2 this fall. 2 years cycle is perfect and the window for release is the same as iPhone - fall. (new software + new hardware) Thats why Apple moved those to fall and now sticks to it. WWDC introduces new software and fall brings in the products. :) Makes sense, don't you think?
 
Mlrollin91 said:
Except I don't have it reversed. When iPad 2 came out in March 2011, iOS was launched in and October 2011. When iPad 3 came out in March 2012, iOS was launched in and October 2012. iPhone SE and iPad Pro 9.7 came out Spring 2016, iOS won't be released until Fall 2016.

You can make a point two ways, the hardware was released without software, or that the previous software was released months before the new hardware. My point being, these devices received new software updates after their launch and without new hardware. Therefore, it does not mean we will see an AW2 this year. I'm sure we will, but to call it unprecedented is not true.
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You still have it the other way around. I'm talking specifically about them updating to wOS 2 before updating AW itself. All your examples involve updated, next generation hardware (or rather, updated current gen still on last gen OS) receiving next generation OS, and that's not what I was calling unprecedented. In my case, the non-updated, current gen AW received next gen wOS.
 
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JayLenochiniMac said:
You still have it the other way around. I'm talking specifically about them updating to wOS 2 before updating AW itself. All your examples involve next generation hardware receiving next generation OS, and that's not what I was calling unprecedented.
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How so? iPad 2 was released with iOS 4, yes? It received iOS 5 before iPad 3 was launched. Same concept. AW was launched with OS1 and received OS2 before AW2 was launched, no?

For the record, not intentionally trying to argue with you, but just trying to understand your unprecedented comment because I feel this is the same exact situation.
 
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Mlrollin91 said:
How so? iPad 2 was released with iOS 4, yes? It received iOS 5 before iPad 3 was launched. Same concept. AW was launched with OS1 and received OS2 before AW2 was launched, no?
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You're correct about that timing. I should have clarified that my example is only refers to the first generation hardware receiving the second generation OS. It isn't unprecedented for them to do that for subsequent generations, as you pointed out in your example.
 
At this rate I don't think we'll see an AW2 until next March for release in April.

Oh well, means I can enjoy mine for longer.
 
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My guess is that it will be released when the first wave buyer's Apple Care plus runs out to avoid those people smashing their watch to finance the next one.
 
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BSben said:
My guess is that it will be released when the first wave buyer's Apple Care plus runs out to avoid those people smashing their watch to finance the next one.
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Nah, they'd still sell at less than 50% of original price after 2 years even when freshly replaced. Paying the deductible will make recouping moot.
 
hope not

would make my wallet be abit lighter. As I have no doubt I will get the iphone 7 plus even if I'm telling myself i won't now.

the whole reason for me getting the next apple watch would be improved app loading speed..not with OS3 this seems to solve this. Maybe GPS on next watch? that would be good
 
n8cousins said:
Sometimes I wish this Forum had a downvote button. Looking at you, JayLenochiniMac.
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And I have no idea which of my several posts in this thread you're referring to. That's exactly why many forums have removed the downvote button, because it's better to state your criticism rather than simply downvote a post without explanation, which is non-constructive.
 
As I discussed in a separate thread, this Watch update is a farce. While the software will be an improvement, what is really needed is a whole new functionality to include monitoring blood pressure and the like. Yes it sounds difficult to create a watch that can measure BP without a cuff, but surely engineers from Stanford or the like can figure out how to accomplish the same technique as a cuff without having a cuff. Can you imagine the Watch sales if such a device could be made?
 
WheatonRon said:
Yes it sounds difficult to create a watch that can measure BP without a cuff, but surely engineers from Stanford or the like can figure out how to accomplish the same technique as a cuff without having a cuff. Can you imagine the Watch sales if such a device could be made?
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Much less than you think. Having a watch that doubles as a blood pressure monitor isn't exactly a wanted feature on the vast majority of customers' list.
 
JayLenochiniMac said:
Nah, they'd still sell at less than 50% of original price after 2 years even when freshly replaced. Paying the deductible will make recouping moot.
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It's simple.

I'll keep my AW with all the announced improvements.

The way Apple is iterating slightly, the value may not be there until AW3.

Unles, AW2 is really great.

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JayLenochiniMac said:
Nobody here has mentioned blood pressure reading capability in any of the wish lists in this forum. Go ahead and do a poll if you like.
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There is no need to take a poll. If nobody has mentioned it in any wish list in this Forum, Apple has no other sources of polling or data, so they are done. Apple has scheduled a press conference at 3 PDT on June 15, 2016, to announce the firing of everybody in its marketing department because the only thing Apple will be relying on in the future are the keen observations and conclusions in this Forum and related threads!
 
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Show me a blood pressure cuff the size of a wristwatch.

Any manufacturer. Hell, any color.
 
WheatonRon said:
As I discussed in a separate thread, this Watch update is a farce. While the software will be an improvement, what is really needed is a whole new functionality to include monitoring blood pressure and the like. Yes it sounds difficult to create a watch that can measure BP without a cuff, but surely engineers from Stanford or the like can figure out how to accomplish the same technique as a cuff without having a cuff. Can you imagine the Watch sales if such a device could be made?
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Mr. BarracksSi: There won't be a cuff (see above) engineers will figure out a way to mirror the functionality of a cuff in sensor embedded on the watch without a cuff! That is what engineers do--create solutions to problems that seem impossible to solve!
 
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JayLenochiniMac said:
It's pretty much a given that AW2 will be released along with wOS3. It's already unprecedented that they updated to wOS2 without updating the AW.
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I don't think it's a given at all.

Admittedly, it's premature to draw conclusions, but the only discernible precedent that's been set is that Apple gives us new releases of WatchOS (i.e., Watch OS2) without new hardware.

So until such a time as we've witnessed several generations of Watch hardware, nobody can say what the pattern will be.

FWIW, my money's on 2017 at the earliest.
 
The first iPad was released in April 2010. The hardware was replaced in March 2011, less than a year after initial release date. The Watch should match that turnaround time (less than 1 year). The difference between Steve Jobs and Tim Cook when leading the ship!
 
Arran said:
I don't think it's a given at all.

Admittedly, it's premature to draw conclusions, but the only discernible precedent that's been set is that Apple gives us new releases of WatchOS (i.e., Watch OS2) without new hardware.

So until such a time as we've witnessed several generations of Watch hardware, nobody can say what the pattern will be.

FWIW, my money's on 2017 at the earliest.
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Why should they milk it for that long? Apple is a master at selling a boatload of new iPhone every other year with very little changed. All they need to do is add one new feature to the current AW, call it the new AW, and that's tens of millions more sales for them.
 
WheatonRon said:
The first iPad was released in April 2010. The hardware was replaced in March 2011, less than a year after initial release date. The Watch should match that turnaround time (less than 1 year). The difference between Steve Jobs and Tim Cook when leading the ship!
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Why do you think it should match that turnaround time?
 
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