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theres prob what 50 people on this thread that will only buy this iPad if it has 2gb of ram. so just estimate there maybe say 1,000 people that wont buy it because of ram, across forums and thats only an estimate. even if it was 10,000 people say, it still wont affect apple in any way so they will obviously do as they want
 
I wonder why the memory performance of the iPad 5,4 is so relatively low compared to the iPad Air on that chart?
 
theres prob what 50 people on this thread that will only buy this iPad if it has 2gb of ram. so just estimate there maybe say 1,000 people that wont buy it because of ram, across forums and thats only an estimate. even if it was 10,000 people say, it still wont affect apple in any way so they will obviously do as they want

Hard to say anything about the numbers you post, but the exact number doesn't really matter IMHO. I believe that you're right. The vast majority of people buying the iPad Air 2 mostly likely don't know, don't care at all or don't care enough for it to be a dealbreaker. That doesn't change anything for those who care though. Knowing that most people don't care doesn't make my user experience better. It just means that I have to cross my fingers and hope that Apple is looking towards the future and not trying to cut corners in an attempt to maximize their profits. Thankfully, it looks like 2GB RAM has pretty much been confirmed by now and I doubt having twice the memory is going to impact the experience of those who feel 1GB is enough in any negative way!

Question is, will it actually improve the experience in terms of Safari refreshes and app reloads or did Apple just stick the 2GB in there for some other purpose that has yet to be revealed? We won't know until we have it in our hands to test for ourselves or some reviewer decides to go in-depth on the subject of how the Air 2 benefits, if any, from having 2GB of RAM. Still crossing my fingers on that one.
 
If it does transpire that the Air 2 has this 3 core processor and 2GB RAM along with the already noted increase in GPU then the Air 2 is actually one seriously big update.

Looks at what it brings over the previous model:

  • Improved Screen
  • Touch ID
  • Big increase in performance
  • Increase in RAM
  • Thinner
  • Lighter

My two prereqs to upgrade from the Air were an improved screen and increased RAM (in bold above). Anything else is a bonus. Make no mistake, the A7 was already a very big performer which I was mostly satisfied with although it did feel constrained by the lack of RAM in some scenarios. What this new Air 2 brings is close to a game changer on some levels. Just looking at what the on stage Pixelmator demo achieved with regards to speed on a 4k image (24MP) using their repair tool was impressive enough - that is desktop class processing!
 
I think that the fact they said nothing is a pretty good sign it will only have 1GB of RAM.

I am betting that even if it did have 2 Gb, it would still not solve the problem.

Maybe next year.

I unfortunately agree with you, perhaps the higher amount of ram would help prevent some of the crashing (although the software encoding has gone from meh to worse).

If not this year, I hope the iPads and the iphones have 2gb of ram next year. For the amount of money Apple charges, this should be a no brainer - they make more than enough in profit. If no 2gb, I might just replace the gimped rMini I sold a couple of months ago with the understanding of what I can really use it for. Then when Apple get to fixing both of these, I'll consider a real upgrade.
 
I unfortunately agree with you, perhaps the higher amount of ram would help prevent some of the crashing (although the software encoding has gone from meh to worse).

If not this year, I hope the iPads and the iphones have 2gb of ram next year. For the amount of money Apple charges, this should be a no brainer - they make more than enough in profit. If no 2gb, I might just replace the gimped rMini I sold a couple of months ago with the understanding of what I can really use it for. Then when Apple get to fixing both of these, I'll consider a real upgrade.

Well you jst never know but 2GB RAM is still rumored: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=20148296#post20148296
 
Lmao. I've monitored RAM usage on my iphone 4 and it used constantly around 3-400mb.

If iOS is ANYTHING like OS X(Which it is) then I would expect around 7-800mb used on the iPhone 5 and above devices.

Why did you quote me and what are you trying to say? I was responding to someone who claimed the iPad "only ends up using 10mb". Perhaps you meant to respond to him?

Many apps need to be coded carefully to account for the limited amount of RAM in iOS devices. More RAM would alleviate the situation.
 
Why did you quote me and what are you trying to say? I was responding to someone who claimed the iPad "only ends up using 10mb". Perhaps you meant to respond to him?

Many apps need to be coded carefully to account for the limited amount of RAM in iOS devices. More RAM would alleviate the situation.

I was just agreeing with you. Because what he said was very laughable.
 
I wonder why the memory performance of the iPad 5,4 is so relatively low compared to the iPad Air on that chart?

I'm assuming Apple picked a denser ram but lower-spec RAM for efficiency reasons, which makes a lot of sense considering the focus on the battery life. More RAM means it'll eat up more battery but you could reduce it by picking a slower spec that won't be noticeable by most folks.

Also, it's not really so relatively low, it's 4,725 vs. 4,138, 12% drop but it is still 6th fastest on the list. iPhone 5S has faster RAM than iPhone 6 and 6 Plus on the benchmark.
 
I'm betting the Air 2 has only 1GB of RAM, because there have been so few rumors of increased RAM in the Air 2.

It seems like there would have been a credible leak by now if the RAM had been bumped up. Similar to the lack of prior rumors in the current iPad refresh related to the Retina Mini...looking back...I should have read those tea leaves!
 
I'm betting the Air 2 has only 1GB of RAM, because there have been so few rumors of increased RAM in the Air 2.

It seems like there would have been a credible leak by now if the RAM had been bumped up. Similar to the lack of prior rumors in the current iPad refresh related to the Retina Mini...looking back...I should have read those tea leaves!

There was a credible leak, 2 in fact - the screenshot of the logic board with the A8X and 2GB RAM and also the online benchmark that was found yesterday - most likely from a review sample. All will be confirmed this evening.
 
I'm betting the Air 2 has only 1GB of RAM, because there have been so few rumors of increased RAM in the Air 2.

It seems like there would have been a credible leak by now if the RAM had been bumped up. Similar to the lack of prior rumors in the current iPad refresh related to the Retina Mini...looking back...I should have read those tea leaves!

If I remember correctly, both the anti-glare coating and the 2 GB memory were mentioned in multiple rumors (In addition to both features not being included in the iPad Mini 3).
 
Is it confirmed that today is when the embargo will be lowered? I seem to remember it being on the Wednesday before, for some past releases.

It was on the Tuesday @ 9PM EST for the Air last year and given a lot of people will receive their pre-orders tomorrow, it makes no sense to keep the embargo in place when consumers already have it.
 
Is it confirmed that today is when the embargo will be lowered? .

I know there must be one (ie Embargo) due to the lack of reviews from all of the regular players. Can someone please explaIn to me what this embargo is and how Apple has such a stranglehold on independent reviews...before "X" number of days has passed since announcement? I missed the "first" story on this...and just not quite understanding what's going on! There must be money exchanging hands somewhere?
 
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I know there must be on (ie Embargo) due to the lack of reviews from all of the regular players. Can someone please explaIn to me what this embargo is and how Apple has such a stranglehold on independent reviews...before "X" number of days has passed since announcement? There must be money exchanging hands somewhere?

Lol, are you for real?

If you receive a review unit from Apple before the product is available for sale, they make you agree to an embargo. This is so there isn't a mad rush to publish reviews within 5 minutes of being given the review unit---they want reviewers to spend a few days with the device before taking an opinion on it.

Once the new product is available for sale to regular people, anyone in the world is able to publish a review with no embargo or restriction.

If you want to be conspiratorial, you could choose to disregard the opinions of anyone privileged enough to receive a review unit. But based on past experience, the "embargo" reviews aren't dramatically more favorable than the "public" reviews, and "embargo" reviews do call attention to potential issues.
 
Well I still think a 6 core gpu is possible, so the increased transistor could be explained by this. A 3 core cpu is.. Special. :apple:

The transistor count isn't explained by just CPU or GPU cores. The A8 has 2 CPU and 4 GPU cores and 2 billion transistors, and the A8X has 50% more transistors (3 billion) because it likely has 50% more CPU cores (3) and 50% more GPU cores (6).
 
Honestly, the iPad only ends up having 10MB of RAM available, so 1GB is way too little, which makes this argument valid. So, "it does really matter".

Fixed that quote for you. I have two iOS 8 widgets that show available RAM, and I tried both: RAM usually hovers between 20-30MB available. Basically my iPhone 6 Plus is always completely maxed out. No wonder switching tabs causes the last tab to lose all of the contents, including filled out forms. Additionally another user who is a developer (I do app design not development but I do understand a few programming languages) showed screenshots of memory usage per tab in iOS. Each website is usually a 30-70MB process. Sure, most websites are only a few hundred KB to maybe a couple MB in size, but the process to run the animations, javascript, handle secure connections and render everything to screen in real-time takes up more memory than just the download. Factor on top of that other services running in the background: Springboard (home screen), App Store updates, Photostream/iCloud Drive Photo Sync, checking and fetching emails, calendar updates, reminder updates, notes updates, iMessages and texts, widgets, polling for push notifications, cellular radio optimization, location services (GPS), phone calls, downloading voicemails, background app refresh, and I'm sure the list goes on. Not sure if delusional or trolling.
 
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