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Hi everyone, I've just found out about this and know it's the issue i've been experiencing. I've emailed Seagate and they aren't replying (2 days+). Can anyone help me out getting hold of the FW updater?

Kind regards

Michael
 
I just bought and installed one of these drives (Came with the CC1J firmware). I formatted it as a single 1.36TB partition and it works beautifully. It only scores an ~80 on the xbench HD test, but it is hardly a slouch. It is already almost full, though :(
 
I just bought and installed one of these drives (Came with the CC1J firmware). I formatted it as a single 1.36TB partition and it works beautifully. It only scores an ~80 on the xbench HD test, but it is hardly a slouch. It is already almost full, though :(

Already? my god!
 
Ohh thanks everyone, I must be invisible, or haven't been around here long enough! Got it sorted by phoning them so no-one stress!!:mad:
 
I haven't had any stuttering issues with my 1.5TB drives, BUT...

I do have an entirely separate software issue to report... Several users (myself included) are not able to use VMWare 2.0 to virtualize a Boot Camp partition which resides on a 1.5TB drive:

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/181549

VMWare is looking into it -- we suspect it's a VMWare Fusion problem, and the kind of issue that may be able to be promptly fixed in a software update.

Just a quick tip to anyone considering the drive for such a use.
 
Ohh thanks everyone, I must be invisible, or haven't been around here long enough! Got it sorted by phoning them so no-one stress!!:mad:
Not invisible. :confused:

I don't use FW, so I didn't respond. Other members may not have it either, and also chose not to respond.

I'm not sure, but maybe this will help. Came up on a quick Google search.
 
Hi everyone, I've just found out about this and know it's the issue i've been experiencing. I've emailed Seagate and they aren't replying (2 days+). Can anyone help me out getting hold of the FW updater?

Kind regards

Michael

Click Here to read my story and for information on how/where to Download the SD1A Firmware. Additionally, NewEgg.com offers the Firmware Update on their Seagate 1.5TB Product Tour page.
 
I'm considering one of these drives... Do new ones come fixed or will I have to go through the trouble of updating the drive?

Once they work, how is the performance?

They're pretty cheap, I'm assuming that's because of their "issues." But I haven't seen any other 1.5 TB drives from any other manufacturers.
 
I'm considering one of these drives... Do new ones come fixed or will I have to go through the trouble of updating the drive?

Once they work, how is the performance?

They're pretty cheap, I'm assuming that's because of their "issues." But I haven't seen any other 1.5 TB drives from any other manufacturers.

Mine came from Newegg with an updated firmware, so I didn't have to do anything.

The performance is good. The 640GB WD drives are markedly faster, but the 1.5TB Seagate scores a good ~80 in Xbench (The WDs score around 100). The Seagate 500GB 7200.10 that came with my Mac Pro scored an awful 40. There are better boot drives out there, but this is a pretty fast overall drive.
 
I've emailed Seagate and they aren't replying (2 days+). Can anyone help me out getting hold of the FW updater?
Have you tried registering a ticket in their support system, making sure to select "escalate to support"? I did, and after waiting for a couple of days with no reaction I used their live chat and they sent me the link immediately. (Despite Seagate stating that you can't get the upgrade via chat.) Burned the iso image in Disk Utility and upgraded using a Mac Pro.

Unless you're absolutely sure what you're doing you should probably get the firmware from Seagate directly, some have managed to brick (in the true sense) their HDDs by using the wrong version.
 
The performance is good. The 640GB WD drives are markedly faster, but the 1.5TB Seagate scores a good ~80 in Xbench (The WDs score around 100). The Seagate 500GB 7200.10 that came with my Mac Pro scored an awful 40. There are better boot drives out there, but this is a pretty fast overall drive.

I've got the stock 500 gig still as my boot drive, so that's interesting to hear.

I was planning on buying this as a Time Machine drive as my current second 500 gig is filling up and I need historical backups. I suppose I should think about replacing my stock boot drive too..
 
I'm wanting to replace all my existing internal drives in my Mac with a single internal SATA drive, with as big a capacity as possible, which is why I'm considering the Seagate.

Am I correct in thinking that if I bought one of these drives I wouldn't be able to update the firmware on my Mac, as it's PowerPC, and that I'd have to use an Intel Mac or a Windows PC to run the update, since to run the update you have to boot from an ISO formatted disk that contains some form of DOS?

(I already use a Western Digital 250GB SATA drive in the machine without any problems, by way of an adapter from Granite Digital, so using a SATA drive isn't a problem, but booting the Mac from the ISO disk image to update the firmware might be?).

Secondly, re posts 102, 103, 106 & 107 - what on earth are "NS" and "AS" versions of the drives? What are the differences, and is there any way to tell from a vendor which type they are selling, and also is there any way to tell from a vendor what the firmware version is for that matter?

Thirdly, what about the quote from Other World Computing mentioned in post 66, that states that it isn't possible to use one of these drives as a single Mac partition without a performance hit? I wouldn't want to partition the drive. I only want one volume (the boot volume) on my Desktop.

Fourthly, I've read all 550-odd reviews on the newegg.com site that relate to the drive that contain the word "Mac" and this one caught my eye (it's on this page - search for the word "extended"):

Great Drive

Pros: -Very Fast drive, due to high density of platers.

-cool running, about 35°C in a Mac Pro

-Large capacity for the money

Cons: -issue with Seagate firmware on all drives to date in the 1.5GB capacity. Drives under OS X that are formatted as "Mac OS X Extended Journaled" will freeze every 15-20 minutes for about 10 seconds. The solution is to format the drive as "Mac OS X Extended" without Journaling.

Journaling is not necessary on a non-boot drive anyway, so for me it was not really a problem.

Other Thoughts: Reliable drive, I've transfered over 6.0TB back and forth with no issues. The speeds for these transfers averaging at around 110MB/s

Does anyone have any light to shed on the Journaled/non-Journaled issue? Given that I want to use the drive as my sole (& therefore boot drive) does is have to be formatted as Journaled, or can (or should) I get away with formatting it in plain Mac OS Extended format?

Many thanks.
 
I'm wanting to replace all my existing internal drives in my Mac with a single internal SATA drive, with as big a capacity as possible, which is why I'm considering the Seagate.

Would you be removing the existing drives?

You can actually get quite a bit more speed out of your machine by using multiple drives. Throwing everything on one drive is kind of like trying to fit everybody's cars on one highway. But for organization, I guess having your stuff over multiple drives is not great.
 
Would you be removing the existing drives?

You can actually get quite a bit more speed out of your machine by using multiple drives. Throwing everything on one drive is kind of like trying to fit everybody's cars on one highway. But for organization, I guess having your stuff over multiple drives is not great.
RAID can solve both issues. :p
 
Would you be removing the existing drives?

You can actually get quite a bit more speed out of your machine by using multiple drives. Throwing everything on one drive is kind of like trying to fit everybody's cars on one highway. But for organization, I guess having your stuff over multiple drives is not great.

Yes I'll definitely be removing the existing drives & then selling them on eBay! The whole point of what I'm trying to do is to remove the 3 existing low capacity, hot, noisy, slow drives and replace them with a single, quiet, cool running, low power, fast drive. The total capacity of the existing 3 drives added together is only 450GB, so even if I go for a 1TB drive I'll be more than doubling my capacity.

I'd much rather have the Seagate at 1.5TB though than a 1TB drive, but I'm concerned about my Mac's ability to update the firmware, the performance hit by formatting it as one partition, the lack of Journaling support, etc.

Regardless, if I do get a new internal drive, I'll get a FW800 external drive of the same size as well so I can mirror the entire disk as a back-up.

See my post on the Apple Discussion Forums for more detail on why I want less drives in my Mac, not more. The MDD G4 tower is hot & noisy enough without having more than one drive in it, as I've found to my cost.

RAID can solve both issues.

I'm sure it can, but my Mac sits right by my bed, and it's noisy enough without huge external towers containing multiple drives, more fans etc, which I don't have the physical space for anyway.

I'd sell the whole thing & get a new 24" iMac if I could afford it. In fact I might still do that, if I decide not to get a new internal drive. That would certainly sort all the heat/noise/power/space problems, but the top spec machine with 4GB RAM & a 1TB drive is over £1600, compared to £128.50 for the Seagate we're discussing here or only £78.95 for the Samsung Spin Point F1 1TB drive, which was my original choice before I discovered the Seagate.

I just want to buy the Seagate & for it to work as flawlessly as all my other drives have up until now, but there are just so many doubts, especially given that I want it to be my boot drive, for it to be formatted in a single partition, with Journaling, and for it not to throw a wobbly and destroy any data before I've got round to buying an external drive and backing everything up.

I've got away with having no back-ups at home now for over 10 years, and I've hardly lost any data in that time. The way to achieve that is to buy reliable drives that are 100% compatible with your system & requirements, and I'd love the Seagate to fit the bill in this regard, as it's the only drive available that's bigger than 1TB, but it doesn't seem to cut the mustard for many, many people. Having said that, over a few short weeks the firmware problems seem to have been addressed. All I need now is for my other concerns to be addressed & allayed...
 
Reformatted and zeroed out before use.
Formated to Mac Extended Journaled

You do not need to zero out and its just a waste of write and time.

Only reason to zero out a hdd is if you are selling your hdd after heavy use. Just go ahead and just quick format it and your ready to go.
 
I just installed a Seagate 1.5TB from newegg in a Ministack 2.5 from OWC, formatted fine, using it as a 1TB media drive and a .3TB time machine drive for the 200GB mini boot drive.

Hard to believe you can store that much data for under $200.
 
You do not need to zero out and its just a waste of write and time.

Only reason to zero out a hdd is if you are selling your hdd after heavy use. Just go ahead and just quick format it and your ready to go.

It can be good habit to zero out a new drive once before use. I do that to make sure that the entire drive can be written to OK without errors.
 
I agree with zeroing out a new drive. I just installed a Seagate Barracuda 1.5 TB in my Mac PowerPC G5 and it popped up with a message saying that the computer could not recognize it. I opened Disc Utility, zeroed the whole drive and set it to Mac OS X Extended Journaled. It took about 3 or 4 hours for it to go through that process but once it was done, the machine recognized the drive and it's been working great.
 
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